AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #1

[2Hip2BSquare]

Can anyone update/repost the most significant facts found in this case for all of us new to this thread so we can HELP?

 

[mamacita]

latest & greatest..

Saturday, June 15th:

3:00am – Last seen by roommates when she left to go to boyfriend’s home. (1) Her apartment is on Ash Avenue (6)
3:44am – Police received a 911 call that Adrienne’s car had hit a median at Ash & Rio Salado Parkway. Passerby saw car driving erratically behind her, so she moved over and let the car pass. (4) Adrienne’s car was then driven less than a mile to Brown and Roosevelt. Police say that from there, she walked a ¼ mile back to her apartment where she changed clothes, leaving behind her wallet and keys. (9) Witness says “they” in her 911 call. Operator asked how many people she thought was in the car and the witness said she thought there were two, she thought she saw one in the passenger seat. (10).
4:10-4:17am – Adrienne’s cell phone called the boyfriend 11 times, but he didn’t answer. (4)
4:30am – Person driving to work found naked woman’s body in the street. Not sure if this is related. Near McClintock and Baseline. (2)
4:43 or 4:47am – Text sent from Adrienne’s phone to boyfriend’s phone said she was going to his house. (1 & 4)
5:00am – Last seen near Brown & Roosevelt streets. (3) Another reports states last seen at this location at 4:30am (7) -- not sure who she was last seen BY, or if this goes off pings, but this is also the same location her car was found.
5:05am – Police said Adrienne called a cab company, but the cabbie couldn’t find her at a Tempe convenience store. (4) “Salinas asked for a driver to meet her at the AMPM gas station at the intersection of Hardy & University. Investigators told CBS 5 she never made it there” (5). LE saw surveillance of cab driver at AMPM but there was no sign of Adrienne there. LE subsequently questioned the cab driver and searched his home. AMPM is less than ¼ mile from Adrienne’s apartment. (9)
5:07am – Her phone was turned off (1) or died (8).

Sunday, June 16th:

2:00pm – AS’s father found her car two blocks away from her apartment. (8)
Her Father called LE that afternoon. (8)

Other known info:

After leaving her disabled car, she walked less than a ¼ mile to her home and changed clothes and left again, leaving her wallet and keys behind. (9)
LE has questioned the cab driver and searched his home. Say he’s not a suspect at this time. (9)
LE did a sweep of Tempe Town Lake and found nothing. (9)
LE says that BF has been cleared and has fully cooperated. (10)
News footage of BF: http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/20130624missing-tempe-woman-reward.html
News footage of roommate: http://www.kpho.com/story/22676371/tempe-teen-still-missing-week-and-a-half-later

1: http://www.azcentral.com/community/...ching-missing-tempe-woman.html?nclick_check=1
2: http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/22601008/police-naked-body-of-woman-found-in-tempe-street
3: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...-missing-woman-Adrienne-Salinas#ixzz2WWHosmWu
4: http://www.azcentral.com/community/...sing-tempe-student-search-continues-abrk.html
5: http://www.kpho.com/story/22627002/...red?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
6: https://photos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/9109_599855283368143_1108049287_n.jpg
7: http://www.tempe.gov/index.aspx?page=31&recordid=1579
8: http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/20130624missing-tempe-woman-reward.html
9: http://www.kpho.com/story/22687012/...teen-makes-emotional-plea-for-her-safe-return
10: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...friends-step-up-search-for-missing-Tempe-girl

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

Oh jeez you guys - this is about Adrienne. Stop being mean to each other - we are all trying to help.

The thing with George is that he is in custody, and I bet the apartment he shares with his GF has been searched, so where would Adrienne be now? I am not being snarky, just asking if you might have a theory...

George is a bad character for sure. the police want to find out more about the murdered GF, as she seems to have not been seen outside much, and no one seemed to be looking for her or missing her. Might she have been an abused partner, whom he controlled, kept locked up, or worse? So when he kills her, he has to find another to take her place?

But where would she be then.

Just thinking aloud.

 

[goblinsolo]

if that sounded snarky; i wasn't trying to be.

as said, on that sunday, i went out w flashlight on my bike and went thru the streets as posted online as to her location that the car was abandoned.
i was merely trying to explain, IMO, that the woman murdered and dumped in baseline area, was not that close. thats all.

i live very close, my friend is around the corner; i lived at uni/hardy for a year, and also down roosevelt.hardy as well, for 2 years. where she lives w her roomy, i can only guess from pics online, the media hasn't said. for various reasons... I know downtown/asu tempe like the back of my hand, this is my shire, i bike it every morn night..

we all know that her movements' that night, make no sense. at all... the car being ditched/crashed to where she had the cab want to get her, to the location of her apt. its sporadict, its crazy even. its why we all are coming up with theories, because nothing is explained from the medias' info.

I THINK a kidnapping by possible people close to her makes the most sense at this time, OR someone completely random in that area; was someone who knows her in that car with her when it crashed/popped tires? we have no sound bits or info that she was alone in car. who knows!

it just gets worse and worse; the fbi involved... well, is kidnapping across state or national borders a fed thing? i would say, yes, of course. and, thats not out of the realm of this awful scenario either.

 

[Tonto]

she seems to have not been seen outside much, and no one seemed to be looking for her or missing her. Might she have been an abused partner, whom he controlled, kept locked up, or worse?

Explains the (poorly maintained) braces and suspicion of rickets to a T.

So when he kills her, he has to find another to take her place?

Possible. Or, it could be a matter of him just losing his mind that night for one reason or another, killing and dumping his girlfriend, and Adrienne was more a passing victim of circumstance than pathology.

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

Explains the (poorly maintained) braces and suspicion of rickets to a T.




Possible. Or, it could be a matter of him just losing his mind that night for one reason or another and Adrienne was more a passing victim of circumstance than pathology.

both scenarios are so ugly to even fathom. I hope we get a break soon and they release some more info.

Anyone hear anything from the mom?

 

[goblinsolo]

''no trace of Adrienne since 5:05 a.m. that morning, when she called a cab, but a cab driver was unable to find her. Her cell phone turned off at 5:07 a.m.''

this is from...http://www.azcentral.com/community/...man-adrienne-salinas-fbi-joins-case-abrk.html


That 2 min window...what happened in those 120 seconds?

'''at 4:43 a.m., saying “I’m coming over.’’''

where was she at that cell phone/txt? at her car? at her apt? someone remember or can figure it out from the info provided thus far?

the path where the car was abandoned, to the circle k, (or was it the am/pm?) both are at uni/hardy, one is northeast corner, one is southwest... well, logically she would most likely go down 5th street, past the park west. rio salado, university... potentially... run west/east as well BUT she would have to go north or south for those major intersections. 5th street, is 1 way each direction, weird bike paths, and secluded, dark at night.

i don't work in percentages, but it just makes the most sense she went by that damn park.

 

[Tonto]

both scenarios are so ugly to even fathom. I hope we get a break soon and they release some more info.

Anyone hear anything from the mom?

I hope so too.

Here's why your 'pathological' scenario might work - do we really even know that this girl was his girlfriend and not a kidnapping/torture victim? That may be what he told LE, but do others independently confirm that? How can someone be a 'simple' girlfriend and be malnourished, have rickets from lack of exposure, and have essentially no evidence of adequate hygiene (braces)? I mean, I suppose if there was a serious meth addiction of a year or more, it could do that to her, but her weight seemed to be normal.

Add to this the manner of death and then how he disposed of her, and I believe we could indeed have the makings of something a bit more disturbing than a domestic scuffle type of killing. Just seems more methodical to me.

IMO

 

[Elainera]

But I thought there was a witness or two that saw her run into the curb. It was reported they 'tried to help her' but she declined aid and walked off. Am I remembering correctly?

She drove off and left her car close to the appartment.

 

[goblinsolo]

where exactly did she crash the car? a median hit? what direction? any actual damage on curbs? they could easily easily match skid/track marks on the cement or medians to match her tires u would think?

because, we wanna know if those tires popped in a crash or.... they were slashed or let out of air and potentially caused her to crash, and then subsequently she had to abandon car.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

latest & greatest..

Saturday, June 15th:

3:00am – Last seen by roommates when she left to go to boyfriend’s home. (1) Her apartment is on Ash Avenue (6)
3:44am – Police received a 911 call that Adrienne’s car had hit a median at Ash & Rio Salado Parkway. Passerby saw car driving erratically behind her, so she moved over and let the car pass. (4) Adrienne’s car was then driven less than a mile to Brown and Roosevelt. Police say that from there, she walked a ¼ mile back to her apartment where she changed clothes, leaving behind her wallet and keys. (9) Witness says “they” in her 911 call. Operator asked how many people she thought was in the car and the witness said she thought there were two, she thought she saw one in the passenger seat. (10).
4:10-4:17am – Adrienne’s cell phone called the boyfriend 11 times, but he didn’t answer. (4)
4:30am – Person driving to work found naked woman’s body in the street. Not sure if this is related. Near McClintock and Baseline. (2)
4:43 or 4:47am – Text sent from Adrienne’s phone to boyfriend’s phone said she was going to his house. (1 & 4)
5:00am – Last seen near Brown & Roosevelt streets. (3) Another reports states last seen at this location at 4:30am (7) -- not sure who she was last seen BY, or if this goes off pings, but this is also the same location her car was found.
5:05am – Police said Adrienne called a cab company, but the cabbie couldn’t find her at a Tempe convenience store. (4) “Salinas asked for a driver to meet her at the AMPM gas station at the intersection of Hardy & University. Investigators told CBS 5 she never made it there” (5). LE saw surveillance of cab driver at AMPM but there was no sign of Adrienne there. LE subsequently questioned the cab driver and searched his home. AMPM is less than ¼ mile from Adrienne’s apartment. (9)
5:07am – Her phone was turned off (1) or died (8).

Sunday, June 16th:

2:00pm – AS’s father found her car two blocks away from her apartment. (8)
Her Father called LE that afternoon. (8)

Other known info:

After leaving her disabled car, she walked less than a ¼ mile to her home and changed clothes and left again, leaving her wallet and keys behind. (9)
LE has questioned the cab driver and searched his home. Say he’s not a suspect at this time. (9)
LE did a sweep of Tempe Town Lake and found nothing. (9)
LE says that BF has been cleared and has fully cooperated. (10)
News footage of BF: http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/20130624missing-tempe-woman-reward.html
News footage of roommate: http://www.kpho.com/story/22676371/tempe-teen-still-missing-week-and-a-half-later

1: http://www.azcentral.com/community/...ching-missing-tempe-woman.html?nclick_check=1
2: http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/22601008/police-naked-body-of-woman-found-in-tempe-street
3: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...-missing-woman-Adrienne-Salinas#ixzz2WWHosmWu
4: http://www.azcentral.com/community/...sing-tempe-student-search-continues-abrk.html
5: http://www.kpho.com/story/22627002/...red?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
6: https://photos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/9109_599855283368143_1108049287_n.jpg
7: http://www.tempe.gov/index.aspx?page=31&recordid=1579
8: http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/20130624missing-tempe-woman-reward.html
9: http://www.kpho.com/story/22687012/...teen-makes-emotional-plea-for-her-safe-return
10: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...friends-step-up-search-for-missing-Tempe-girl

Makes so much more sense now that I have all the updates compiled! TY. Going to use this as my guide as trust WS analysis more than any random reporter or source that's compiled the info into timeline form.


And thank you Goblinsolo for your dedication to this case!! Glad we have someone on foot to relay info directly from the scenes! You are a blessing to this case.

 

[Autonomik]

Hi folks, first post on this board as I have been watching for a while and the whole situation is driving me insane. First of all I have lived in Tempe all my life and given the timeline of the calls, text, and her supposed last known location don't add up logistically. There has been a massive amount of chatter on social networking sites and a lot of rumors are going around.... and the vibe in the city in regards to local LE is very heightened. Usually you would find 15 LE cars moving up and down Mill street (a main road in tempe) but as of now I see about twice that. I'm sorry that all I have is speculation and no facts as of now but the theory that everyone in the area is talking about is her seeing something happen at/after the party... apparently a particular group of the partigoers are not answering calls and attempts for contact by LE. I really do think Tempe LE and the FBI will get to the bottom of this and inform the public when it is safe too. Oh and the snitches get stitches post is something i keep remembering for some reason. i really hope the father and family get closure from this soon....

 

[cluciano63]

FBI helps out in all kinds of cases...itmis not true that it means a case crosses state lines, at least not anymore. They offer resources in nearly all big cases here in NM. Same with other states.

 

[Tonto]

You know what - we need to look at the map again. I just did a Google satellite view and encourage you all to do the same. If her apartment is on Ash, then there is no way in hades she left there to walk five or so blocks the wrong way to the AMPM. Do we have an exact address for her apartment?

I mean, there is just no way it happened like this. She could've been drunk enough to have been teetering on the verge of unconciousness and still not have made such an absurd set of choices. Sorry - something is up. Big time.

 

[cluciano63]

People have walked away from car crashes before to avoid DWI's, some even to die of exposure. That part does not surprise me. I am not sure I believe she was not drinking; if not, why leave her car at all?

 

[Autonomik]

Tomorrow I'm going to take the timeline and all locations with me and see how practical or plausible this route she supposedly took.

 

[Tonto]

People have walked away from car crashes before to avoid DWI's, some even to die of exposure. That part does not surprise me. I am not sure I believe she was not drinking; if not, why leave her car at all?

She didn't leave her car at the accident scene. She drove it as far as she could after tha accident (a little over a mile) to within a few blocks of her apartment. Then she walked back to her apartment, changed clothes and left again. When she left the second time is where things are a bit out of whack.

Granted, all of it could be false, but we're just going on the info reported right now.

 

[Tonto]

Tomorrow I'm going to take the timeline and all locations with me and see how practical or plausible this route she supposedly took.

Thank you for doing that. An in-person report should help us all. Take some pics as well if you feel they would be helpful to the rest of us.

 

[goblinsolo]

tonight, i was thinking about going from brown/roosevelt and see what i can cover on foot within 7 mins. you can go either north or south from brown/roosevelt intersection to head towards to convenience store, and my money is on south to head to 5th, to cut to the convenience store. somewhere, in those streets, she dissapeared. i was going to attach a pic of that intersection, but its not hyperlinked to a website. a quick google street view, and you can see the area very very clearly, thou. it won't be a scientific walk as who can really say what pace she walked, but we can at the very least get an idea how far she might of gone before the phone somehow WENT DEAD 2 mins after the cab call? are we really talking about a 7min window here? her car was secured, locked. no foul play (the media at least has said,) was found at her vehicle... that 7mins, is the mystery, of course. a very small window of time ANYONE have any theories as to where she walked/stumbled or as i believe, kidnapped, gimme heads up and i will check it out on foot/bike/car... hell, if someone wants me to drive where the body was dumped of that poor lady in south tempe, and then to this area, i will time it going the speed limit. or faster. im game. my biggest fear though, is that this is not some random kidnap, and that certain people in her circle know what happened or at the very least aren't fessing up everything. 'snitches get stiches' as was posted in that news forum. yep... not a good sign

 

[goblinsolo]

most definitely. good idea, autonomik. im gonna do same thing asap ! your comments on the party goers, goes right to the heart of my thoughts on this.

its not just NOT adding up, but that someone at that party, a group perhaps even... up to nothing good, at all