Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #2

elastic said:

They have ruled out both Lance Williams and Peter Wegers from the reports,

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That doesn't necessarily mean it's true. The only reason the media release information on this case is because the police are feeding them carefully worded statements as part of their strategy.

who they specifically have not mentioned or ruled out is our Judoman who appeared in the documentary. He has specifically not been ruled out, how ever we are hearing in reports that they beleive Blitz attack, he is looking like the main suspect right now.

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He hasn't been ruled out because he hasn't been acknowledged publicly as a suspect. His stocks have gone up though.

Who else was a major suspect in the documentary at the time?

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The "known sexual pervert with a gun under his seat".

Donald Morey, people are saying he can't be the CSK, what proof has anyone ever put forward EVER to suggest he was not in the state killing at the time,

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He was incarcerated at the time. It's not him. Put a line through his name.

Amazing the police bungled the Karakata rape investigation and refused to follow the FBI's advice, reeks of keystone cops..

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I suspect there's a lot more going on behind the scenes.

Someone posted the below a few days ago and then quickly removed it in minutes and deleted their post, why?

And has anyone debunked it, it sounds extreme, more than likely the rantings of a loon, but can anyone be certain that there weren't rapes around UWA, and if so were they reported in the media, and why not if this was happening?

I would like to know why the person who posted the below quickly deleted it though, what made you change your mind?

TerraAustralis • 3 years agoMILES,
I didn't get into the Perth & Claremont stuff in those posts. Around the same time I became a whistle-blower over the Claremont killings and the rapes at UWA, I was approached / recruited by, or on behalf of, the Defence Dept and most of the major Aust banks, to market their software.
Tess (Lawrence) has done several articles on the banks - my posts to her articles covered what I learned about our banks, and some of our Defence contractors (fraud, treason and breaches by their subsidiaries of RICO legislation in the USA - the RICO breaches translate into our banksters being in business with the Las Vegas and Chicago mafia).
Interspersed with the posts about the banksters' treason and RICO stuff, I added a bit about what had happened to us - forced exile, the shootings etc, but I didn't touch on the Perth stuff.
I was not the only one who knew what was happening re the protected suspect in the Claremont killings. His actions were so blatant, and so criminal, that he was bound to attract attention - and he did.
A senior police officer (no names so IA doesn't get sued for defamation) came to Nedlands to meet a group of local business people who had identified the suspect for his likely involvement in the killings and rapes. By tha stage the police had his "violent sexual predator" handwritten profile, and the Commissioner's office were definite that they wanted the guy locked up forever, or run out of WA forever.
Obviously, based on what police told people later, they were ordered to protect the guy. And anyone who knew of his activities was effectively neutralised.
Eg a Nedlands lawyer who identified the same suspect (and an accomplice) to police from a break and enter at Applecross was forced to give up work - his wife suddenly became so ill, that her husband retired to become her full time carer. The file he had on the suspect was cleaned out from his law firm's files, within weeks of him quitting work.
If you saw the CCTV footage of Jill Meagher being accosted in the street by her (alleged) killer, you witnessed something almost identical to what was happening outside the UWA library. The "violent sexual predator" used to spend the early part of each night walking up and down the paths leading from the library, accosting women. the rape victims were dragged into the bushes a few metres of the paths.
Campus security knew he was there, knew what he was doing, and knew that he was not a studeny, so he had no business being on campus. But security and the university admin went out of their way to protect him - they refused, in writing, to do anything about him. It was not hard for the uni admin to intimidate staff or students who complained. The suspect had a brother on the staff at UWA, which may have had something to do with the protection.
If he failed to "get any results" around the library by 10 pm, ge then moved up Stirling Hwy to repeat his prowling around the nightspots of Claremont.
The guy used to try and on-sell ("fence" might be the right word) stuff he had stolen through local businesses in the Crawley, Nedlands and Claremont area. That was reported (multiple times) to the police. But for someone in a small business, and trying to pay the bills and the wages, and make a profit, it only takes a few hassling visits from the local council's inspectors, to scare people off from making any more waves.
Others, like me, ended up, out of Australia - I got a letter from a Perth law firm telling me I would be arrested at any Australian airport of I ever tried to return. The arrest warrant was organised by the same judge who was protecting the rapes/murder suspect. As far as I know, that arrest warrant was dropped a while ago, but, so far, I have not been able to get back my Aust passport ( it expired after I was exiled), so I am still "out".
The police identified a Perth judge as the main one protecting the guy. Maybe true - or maybe there is more to it - he was the product of a top private school in Melbourne, was from Toorak (probably loosely equivalent to being Melbourne's answer to Peppermint Grove), and his family have ties into the Melbourne establishment, and the top level of Australia's military and intell circles, that date back over a century.
The guy has a few other vices besides theft, violence and sexual predations - his other hobbies included Asian baiting and harassing Moslems - he has received coverage in the Malaysian media for this, and DFAT had to assign staff to try and hose down the political fall-out from that.
He worked with an accomplice, or as part of a group (as testified by the Nedland lawyer who identified him).
He kept a pile of newspaper clippings on the murders.
Like Bayley (the Brunswick "suspect"), he spent a lot of time in the gym.
He was arrogant, with the private school, "school-bully" attitude, that it was his right to help himself to whatever, or whoever, took his fancy.
There was an impotence clinic run by a Dr Denis Cherry in Subiaco. (I think he has since moved closer to QE II hospital, down in Nedlands). Anyway, our "violent sexual predator" was being treated for impotence by the same Dr Cherry. The combo of "violent sexual predator" and impotence clinic rang alarm bells with a lot of people.
But, obviously. not with the Australian, especially the West Australian media. They know about it, have known for years, but say and do nothing.




Mr 'violent sexual predator" has been back and forth, free to prowl the streets of Perth and Melbourne for years. My hunch is that when the Melbourne police had reports of similar behaviour around Brunswick, they thought "It might be him!", so they opted to back off, lest they got a rap over the knuckles or damaged their career prospects, by upsetting whoever was protecting him.

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Bartholemeus said:

That doesn't necessarily mean it's true. The only reason the media release information on this case is because the police are feeding them carefully worded statements as part of their strategy.

He hasn't been ruled out because he hasn't been acknowledged publicly as a suspect. His stocks have gone up though.

The "known sexual pervert with a gun under his seat".


He was incarcerated at the time. It's not him. Put a line through his name.

I suspect there's a lot more going on behind the scenes.

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Proof please, this is the problem, people are complaining that there is so mucvh unsubstatiated information, yet no one has actually proved Morey was locked up, and highgate was his hunting spot, and Con Bayens refers to highgate. Hmmm If he was locked up then good we can strike him out, but I am not going off the word of some internet CSK catching ethusiast that has provided nothing substantial to back this up. Is there a news paper article? something? then we can strike him out and move on, otherwise he is most definitely in the mix, what year was he released? How did it tie in with Sara McMahon's murder?

So Terrence J Mclernen is claiming it is a CHUBB Security installer, they usually drive VANS, it looking like a VAN was involved, which also looks to have links to telecom, or phone cable, which is used in security installation, which could tie into the CHUBB van theory that he came out with months before any of these reports...

This throws another variable into the mix, where has judoman worked, has he done security installation, what is his trade?

elastic said:

Someone posted the below a few days ago and then quickly removed it in minutes and deleted their post, why?

And has anyone debunked it, it sounds extreme, more than likely the rantings of a loon, but can anyone be certain that there weren't rapes around UWA, and if so were they reported in the media, and why not if this was happening?

I would like to know why the person who posted the below quickly deleted it though, what made you change your mind?

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I posted it once on big footy and got shouted down. I was planning on posting it again at a later date, but didn't want to distract/divert attention away from latest articles by giving airtime to a user claiming a cover up. I just thought it was interesting that the user alluded to precursor crimes like breaking and entering, similar to what was described in the Post article from earlier this year. That user has more comments below that same article as well.

I was very young at the time but seem to have a recollection of reading about women getting assaulted around Nedlands area in the Post, particularly near Broadway shops. I think it's called Broadway Fair now?

Also remember reading about assaults in Kings Park too.

Here is a report about Donald Morey -
http://www.coronerscourt.wa.gov.au/_files/Mcmahon_finding.pdf

Check page 24 - Mr Morey's bag which contained his kill kit and a map. Knives, gaffa, ropes etc.

I have no idea when he was in/out of jail.

billywhizz said:

I posted it once on big footy and got shouted down. I was planning on posting it again at a later date, but didn't want to distract/divert attention away from latest articles by giving airtime to a user claiming a cover up. I just thought it was interesting that the user alluded to precursor crimes like breaking and entering, similar to what was described in the Post article from earlier this year. That user has more comments below that same article as well.

I was very young at the time but seem to have a recollection of reading about women getting assaulted around Nedlands area in the Post, particularly near Broadway shops. I think it's called Broadway Fair now?

Also remember reading about assaults in Kings Park too.

Here is a report about Donald Morey -
http://www.coronerscourt.wa.gov.au/_files/Mcmahon_finding.pdf

Check page 24 - Mr Morey's bag which contained his kill kit and a map. Knives, gaffa, ropes etc.

I have no idea when he was in/out of jail.

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Yes its a very interesting piece and remember reading it originally in the other thread which must have been your original post, its definitely worth discussing and is very interesting, regardless if it turns out to be the ranting of a loon.

The Morey thing bothers me, a highgate suspect magically turns up in investigations years and years down the track, Moreys hunting ground is high gate, no one has proved he was locked up during the time or was not in WA, and especially not in any of the CSK threads, yet a few people are trying to stare the discussion away from him, this despite Con Bayens even most probably mentioning he beleives this guy (Morey) is probably the guy, without risking a libel case against him! This all checks out, I would love to strike him out because it really just leaves Judoman left at this point, or someone else not even in the mix. But a Blitz attack, in a VAN, possibly a security VAN, or a VAN with telecommunication cables, could all start pointing to a very worried nervous looking individual if someone could just start putting the pieces together.

We were told in not so many words many years ago a form of cable was used in the attacks, but now it seems to be more specific, and maybe this is the forensic link?

elastic said:

Yes its a very interesting piece and remember reading it originally in the other thread which must have been your original post, its definitely worth discussing and is very interesting, regardless if it turns out to be the ranting of a loon.

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Yep.

I have tried before, but this is probably the best clue given to his identity if anyone is up for sleuthing, or remembers hearing about this in the news

his other hobbies included Asian baiting and harassing Moslems - he has received coverage in the Malaysian media for this, and DFAT had to assign staff to try and hose down the political fall-out from that.

elastic said:

So Terrence J Mclernen is claiming it is a CHUBB Security installer, they usually drive VANS, it looking like a VAN was involved, which also looks to have links to telecom, or phone cable, which is used in security installation, which could tie into the CHUBB van theory that he came out with months before any of these reports...

This throws another variable into the mix, where has judoman worked, has he done security installation, what is his trade?

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NC claimed he did night security for "various static government projects" in the big footy thread.

I am going to cater to your irrational one last time. I was living in a house with my girlfriend, dog and cat, and from SS disappearance, untill after Ciara Glennon, I was jn that same house, with that same cat and dog, and for much of it doing 7 to 7 night security, and also protecting TT's van he was restoring, and possibly and morel likely, he dropped in on his way to work van, or even left from there after working on his van, so in a twist of irony, and apart from my girlfriend, he i my bet alibi. How about that!

When quizzed as to what he was securing, the next page he said it was "static on a government project." No idea if typo or what that means.

His main suspect, who was keeping a bedford van in his backyard at the time and was a taxi driver, is also his best alibi.

This is NC - http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...s/news-story/bc48350f2d83ae30f2f574c948331e82

elastic said:

Yes its a very interesting piece and remember reading it originally in the other thread which must have been your original post, its definitely worth discussing and is very interesting, regardless if it turns out to be the ranting of a loon.

The Morey thing bothers me, a highgate suspect magically turns up in investigations years and years down the track, Moreys hunting ground is high gate, no one has proved he was locked up during the time or was not in WA, and especially not in any of the CSK threads, yet a few people are trying to stare the discussion away from him, this despite Con Bayens even most probably mentioning he beleives this guy (Morey) is probably the guy, without risking a libel case against him! This all checks out, I would love to strike him out because it really just leaves Judoman left at this point, or someone else not even in the mix. But a Blitz attack, in a VAN, possibly a security VAN, or a VAN with telecommunication cables, could all start pointing to a very worried nervous looking individual if someone could just start putting the pieces together.

We were told in not so many words many years ago a form of cable was used in the attacks, but now it seems to be more specific, and maybe this is the forensic link?

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No one is trying to steer you away from Morey for any underhanded reasons. He looks like a likely suspect but for some reason we all dismissed him. I vaguely recall reading a news article that either said he was in prison or interstate. I remember at the time being disappointed that a seemingly strong suspect was a dead end.

I'll keep searching for the article. In the mean time he's a worthy suspect.

billywhizz said:

"And as for suspects: a number of people in Perth, by virtue of their odd behaviour, have been extensively investigated, in effect creating a database of information about their activities,” he says.

I ask if they have investigated a particular individual, whom I name.

“No comment,” he says. “You’ll have to talk to Dave Caporn about that.”

Caporn. I am starting to feel as if I am shadow-boxing with a silent partner, a phantom. Lee concedes the individual I have named is known as a character in Perth, that he is a possibility
http://www.news.com.au/news/lost-in-the-devils-garden/story-fna7dq6e-1111113619174

Anyone know who this refers to?

Why was this person on Debbie Marshall's radar anyway?

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Morey?

elastic said:

Proof please, this is the problem, people are complaining that there is so mucvh unsubstatiated information, yet no one has actually proved Morey was locked up, and highgate was his hunting spot, and Con Bayens refers to highgate. Hmmm If he was locked up then good we can strike him out, but I am not going off the word of some internet CSK catching ethusiast that has provided nothing substantial to back this up. Is there a news paper article? something? then we can strike him out and move on, otherwise he is most definitely in the mix, what year was he released? How did it tie in with Sara McMahon's murder?

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Slow your roll. No one is asking you to take their word for anything. There are 20 years of details, speculation, facts, rumors, suspects, comments and statements related to the CSK case. No one remembers everything perfectly.

I posted about Morey a few weeks ago, dismissing him as a suspect (although I'm not entirely sure why). Just ask for an article or the source if you feel like someone or something is being misrepresented.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12109589

You're right--Morey should remain on the list. I've looked EVERYWHERE for an article stating he's been cleared (or really even considered) for the Claremont murders, but can't find anything.

There are things about his known crimes that don't match, and some profiling issues, but those things are just inferences and definitely don't clear him. Good job recognizing he's still a legitimate suspect.

Judoman

Do I have to give a DNA sample?

The law says that you may be requested to give a DNA sample in certain circumstances. If a DNA sample is requested from you, you can agree (consent) to the request. If you do not consent, you can be required to provide a sample if you:
are suspected of, but have not been charged with, committing a serious offence and a senior officer orders you to give a mouth cell sample or a sample of hair from your head, or a warrant is obtained for a blood sample or a sample of pubic hair to be taken
are charged with a serious offence, or
have been convicted of a serious offence within the last six months (mouth cell sample or hair sample only).
If you are charged with an offence that is not a serious offence then you are not required to give a sample of your DNA. However, you can be required to provide other identifying information like fingerprints and photographs.
If police have asked you for a DNA sample and you are not sure if you have to give a sample, you should get legal advice immediately.

http://www.legalaid.wa.gov.au/Infor...ages/DNAsamplesandidentifyinginformation.aspx


According to WA Legal Aid if Police say you have to give a sample, you have to give a sample (sounds incorrect but WA is the right-winged redneck State) where police and courts have OTT powers.


If they have Judman's DNA and it's correct that police have Karrakatta man's DNA then Judoman is not Karrakatta Man.


If police are telling the truth that they have a forensic link between Karrakatta Man and CSK then we're talking about someone who is off the grid so far.

Sutton said:

Morey?

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Probably. Debbie Marshall references Con Bayens in her book so she spoke to him. He no doubt told her about plastic-lined boot man (who we think was Morey). She probably brought it up with police because Bayens had not been told what became of the information.

question: If plastic-lined boot man was Morey then wouldn't have Bayens said in the recent Sunday Night episode "Macro ignored me and it did end up this bloke was later convicted of a violent rape".???

DNA

Apparently from DNA, experts are able to produce the shape of someone's face and potentially color of hair etc. I saw an article about 2 weeks ago when a journo put it to the test and what they came up with looked remarkably close to the journo;

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...564607464?sv=bfebbd2c7abb9d73b6a433f3125082a1

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...d-gum-found-in-public-places-50266864/?no-ist

There's a high chance the police have Karrakatta Man's DNA and if they do in fact have evidence linking Karrakatta Man to the CSK then it's a no-brainer isn't it? It wouldn't be cheap but they're spent so much money and time on this case already, obtaining Karrakatta Man's face will surely only cost a fraction of the total cost?

** On one hand I feel the chances of solving this case are at the highest since I've been looking at it, but on the other hand I feel very sceptical that there is a lonk between Karrakatta and CSK.

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...564607464?sv=bfebbd2c7abb9d73b6a433f3125082a1

The National Institute of Forensic Science’s Dr Linzi Wilson-Wilde said police could send DNA samples overseas now but setting up the groundbreaking technology in Australia would take time.

American company ArroGen is offering this service already, determining age, smoker status, caffeine consumption, gender and other factors from the tiniest bodily trace.





Get it done already.

New Article ruling out suspects
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/29843191/compo-call-for-cleared-claremont-killing-suspect/

[h=1]Compo call for cleared Claremont killing suspect[/h]Grant TaylorOctober 19, 2015, 12:35 am

Billboard of missing Claremont serial killer victim Sarah Spiers.The State Opposition believes the former “chief suspect” as the Claremont serial killer should get compensation after explosive claims that all former suspects had now been cleared.
The Post newspaper reported on Friday about a forensic link between the Claremont murders and an earlier rape case.
That evidence had also helped clear former Cottesloe public servant Lance Williams, who was publicly revealed as a suspect in the late 1990s.
Police refused to confirm or deny the newspaper’s claims but shadow attorney-general John Quigley said that if true, the Government should force police to admit they got it wrong.
“If it was not Lance Williams, he would certainly have a clear case for compensation for what he was subjected to, which was years of harassment by police,” Mr Quigley said.
“And if I was the Government ... I would also want an inquiry to determine why he was treated the way he was.”
Mr Williams was subjected to years of intense police scrutiny, including police cars parked outside his home day and night and following his every movement.
His workstation at the Department of Transport was bugged, with one reportedly crashing through the ceiling on to his desk.
And after he agreed to a lie detector test and “failed” it, journalists were tipped off about the outcome to keep pressure on him.
Mr Williams’ family have claimed that police tactics had an enormous impact on his life, resulting in psychiatric treatment on several occasions.
The family also claim police told them in 2008 that they would not be “troubled by them again” but Mr Williams was now reluctant to seek compensation out of fear it could provoke them.
Attorney-General Michael Mischin yesterday dismissed the idea of an inquiry into Mr Williams’ treatment, saying he should lodge a claim through the appropriate channels if he felt he was unfairly targeted.


Mr Mischin said any claim for compensation would be dealt with on its merits and that if someone claimed police acted maliciously towards them, then there could be avenues of redress through the courts and they should seek legal advice.

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So if all the suspects have now been cleared.

Who were the official suspects, we know Lance Williams, we also know Steve Ross, so who was officially a suspect, Peter Weygers, although they raided him based on a psychics thoughts, how keystone can you get?

Hi everyone, i have been asked to advise on how the police can obtain a DNA sample from a suspect.

Here is a link to Western Australian law.

DNA samples

Police can take samples from people charged with, or suspected of, committing a serious offence that carries a statutory penalty of 12 months or more, regardless of the actual sentence imposed.

So if there are any suspects, they can take a DNA sample from them. I expect they would first get an order from a judge after showing some evidence of why they consider the person a suspect. Of course they could just ask the person first and there would be no need for an order.

http://www.police.wa.gov.au/Ourservices/Identifyingpeople/DNAsamples/tabid/1083/Default.aspx

Lets get back to Morey as he come onto the radar recently. Reading a news article on Debbie Marshall she undoubtedly believes Sarah McMahons murder was a CSK kill. This was at a time when Morey was known to Police and locked up in prison for his attempted murder after abducting a prostitute. Then we had Con Bayens come out recently and basically name Morey whilst not specifically identifying the POI. But he hints at High gate, a place Morey was KNOWN to prowl looking for potential victims.


No one can provide any proof at all about Morey being locked up during these years, or that Morey was out of the State, its been assumed, but never proven, thus blows this case wide open. Not one article at all can be found, or any news paper ruling him out, yet the News Papers have been happy to comment on Morey being a susepcted serial killer and The West had him branded all over the front page with the words 'Killer' or some such sprayed across the paper around the time the documentary was coming out with the new POI being identified, Judoman and a sexual predator who carries a knife... Morey is a former Abattoir worker, a knife specialist in everyway.




Sarah McMahon fits the victims profile to a T. She is exactly the same sort of victim you would have expected the CSK to target in every conceivable way. Morey's temptation to execute this kill fits the profile of the CSK. Ill explain why below.


Lets assume Morey killed these victims which everyone suspects he did, but being a master serial killer there is no physical evidence to suggest he actually did the kills, just enormous swaths of circumstantial evidence suggesting he was involved. Moreys known victims had suffered through the use of a cable/rope.. this method of disarming fits with the CSK. The Karrakatta victim had a rope bound around her neck from memory, rope was involved, it is assumed Ciara Glennon had some involvement with rope, then we had an article in the POST some years back identifying a print shop and rope, but now we are being told its 'cable' as the facts become more clear... Whatever Morey chose to tie up his victim, rope/cable, it fits his profile again.


Credit to Sutton for posting this (*Will do some rejigging to show a possible timeline):


1995 - Karrakatta Cemetery rape, Claremont
Jan. 1996 - Sarah Spiers abducted Claremont- still missing (Hidden probably in the bush somewhere)-Was a possible call from the killer suggesting a really well hidden enormous area
June 1996 - Jane Rimmer- Abducted Claremont, Found dead, cause of death unknown (Foreign articles suggest major knife wounds- abattoir worker anyone?)
Mar. 1997 - Ciara Glennon- Abducted Claremont, Found dead, cause of death unknown (Foreign articles suggest major knife wounds- maybe im wrong and only one victims was identified in the foreign media as having major knife wounds throughout the body,If So it would be Ciara only where we know the cause of death?)
Nov. 1998 - Lisa Brown, missing (sex worker, last seen on Palmerston St.)
Nov. 2000 - Sarah McMahon, missing (last seen in Claremont, knew Morey)
Apr. 2002 - Survivor (attacked on Palmerston St.)
Mar. 2003 - Darylyn Ugle, murdered (sex worker, body found near Mundaring Weir)
Dec. 2003 - Survivor (sex worker, escaped near Mundaring Weir)


So has Morey started with the claremont victims and satisfied his MO with killing pretty rich girls, He would be the perfect candidate for a blitz attack, he is big and powerful, a former abattoir worker, smart, highly intelligent, smug (He sat there and testified to the coroner than Sarah McMahon was still alive and blatantly lied when he is most definitely the killer), knows how to hide evidence, is an expert at hiding bodies and knows the bush areas and surrounds of Perth better than probably anyone. Now with the heat on he moves across to the sex areas of Perth, he is a serial killer, he needs to kill, so he gets his urges this way for a while, he picks up numerous street girls, the Police look the other way, they have a suspect by now and he continues to kill in the background.


Sarah McMahon was rumoured (yes its a rumour) buying Meth from Donald Morey, Donald Morey would have known she wouldn't have told anyone her whereabouts when buying the drugs from Morey, its was an opportunist kill, the heat was back on, so he moved back to killing the street workers where one eventually smashed his head with her feet and escaped over a brick wall whilst he tried to BOUND and GAG her in his car...


Morey is supposedly fires blanks, I have read that rapists who are impotent don't leave behind DNA. They don't have DNA in their semen, he could be the Karrakatta rapist and have left behind NO DNA!


They locked Morey up and gave him what 16 years, he will be out in the next few years.. In WA our sentences run concurrently, if you are locked up for 20 years and are charged for another 20 years after serving a few years you only do 22 years for both crimes... Now all of a sudden a year or two out they have evidence, they are going to crack the case, all the reviews up untill now have concluded the police have done the right thing. Maybe the Police know its Morey, they know if they charge him for the Karrakatta murder and have a link to the Ciara Glennon murder they can make the charge stick that he also killed Sarah Spiers and Jane Rimmer, without any direct evidence. Maybe they are waiting to charge the man soon so he stays in prison? Who knows but it all seems a little sus that he now appears to be a MAJOR suspect and people arent being afraid to come out with it.

Morey is cool, clam, highly intelligent, A former abattoir worker, a expert at navigating in the bush, took amphetamines so stayed up all night, impotent so may not leave behind his DNA in his semen, used rope or cable to bound and gag his victims, was an expert at Blitz attacks and is possibly the sexual predator/ Con Bayens suspect that has become a major focus of the CSK investigation. No media have ruled him out, no police have ever ruled him out..

Sutton said:

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Nah, S.R. Debi Marshall was on about. First up on Ten News a min ago at 5pm was LW old footage & Quigley quips up re compensation for LW since the Karrakatta Guy is linked. Now; Telstra stuff has come up a bit. Did the CSK know a Telco in some way? Pal? Landlord? Employer?