OLG - Not so far out of line...maybe...After all, CA came from somewhere, didn't she? I find it odd that the brothers and sister hardly speak...Just a couple of times in a year...Sounds to me like both families (GA's and CA's) have their fair share of chite...Don't think that KC is an anomaly here in the soup of dysfunction. It's a minestrone soup for sure!Ok, I'm with ya on that, to a point but would just like to toss this out there, see whatcha think?
My mom, (who's just like Cindy, as we have discussed) hides things from her mother because her mother is much like HER and is often very very critical (to the point of having made my mom cry before) by putting her down about the type of food she'd buy us when I was a child- my grandmother didn't like that we were on welfare and told my mother so ALL THE TIME. When my Bio father left us, my mom went to her parents for help and though my grandmother helped her with some money, 36 years later it is STILL thrown in my mothers face, as a way to tell her what she turned out to be.. without ever SAYING it, ya know?
My grandmother SEEMS like a loving and wonderful woman, and she is- really, but not when it comes to my mom... though sometimes she is.
I don't know, Shrley seems nice so I'm not saying that I think this is the case with her but I just thought I'd bring it up as a possible?? Just tell me to shut up if I'm out of line! LOL
Ok, I'm with ya on that, to a point but would just like to toss this out there, see whatcha think?
My mom, (who's just like Cindy, as we have discussed) hides things from her mother because her mother is much like HER and is often very very critical (to the point of having made my mom cry before) by putting her down about the type of food she'd buy us when I was a child- my grandmother didn't like that we were on welfare and told my mother so ALL THE TIME. When my Bio father left us, my mom went to her parents for help and though my grandmother helped her with some money, 36 years later it is STILL thrown in my mothers face, as a way to tell her what she turned out to be.. without ever SAYING it, ya know?
My grandmother SEEMS like a loving and wonderful woman, and she is- really, but not when it comes to my mom... though sometimes she is.
I don't know, Shrley seems nice so I'm not saying that I think this is the case with her but I just thought I'd bring it up as a possible?? Just tell me to shut up if I'm out of line! LOL
Yep, and although she had the numbers and addresses when Casey wouldn't take her to Zanny's apartment Cindy instead drove to the police station. Now then, if she had the address and phone number please explain why she didn't just call or go over herself?
There are Momma's out there who don't have a clue what they've done or how they've done it. I have one of those. She's cute. Everyone thinks so. They haven't a clue as to what she's done...Or rather, what she never did.One Lost Girl....you are amazing!
How DID Shirley turn out someone like Cindy?.....makes me wonder.
One Lost Girl....you are amazing!
How DID Shirley turn out someone like Cindy?.....makes me wonder.
She was really stoopid when she threw that one out there! I mean really! They're searching for your KIDNAPPED grand-daughter and 9 months later you decide to mention that you had the babysitter's phone number and address. Might as well just say that you're a stoopid cow or a liar. Take your pick.EXCELLENT POINT! I think the address and phone number thing was a new lie. She thought it made her look good, but in hind site it makes her look very bad.
She was really stoopid when she threw that one out there! I mean really! They're searching for your KIDNAPPED grand-daughter and 9 months later you decide to mention that you had the babysitter's phone number and address. Might as well just say that you're a stoopid cow or a liar. Take your pick.
MOO
Happy Easter, Friday! LOL! LOVE the 'good ol' boy' reference above. I think you may be right.
I have to go digging through my links to read it again myself, but there is something else I think is in that post worthy of discussion in relation to CA's depo, but I have to find it again first.
Anyone still have a link handy to CA's July 3rd MySpace post? TYVM
Did you notice how angry she was when they played a piece from an interview she had with LE? She was really angry. She stated it was "because she didn't know she was being videotaped by LE" and "that was a very painful time" for her. That's a lie. Anyone with any common sense or who has any affiliation with LE who is going to give a statement to LE for a missing person's investigation should know that they are possibly going to be videotaped particularly if their relative is incarcerated and has been giving false statements to police.
After watching her deposition this week, it is really interesting to go back and watch her previous interviews with OSCO and the FBI (now knowing truly what kind of person she is). In her first interview with OSCO, she takes off her shoe and plays with it with her foot under the table as she is answering questions, shifts around in her seat until she is sitting on one leg, then she has the other leg leaning over like a young girl will do. She knows that the detectives (EE and YM, who are very goodlooking) are studying her intently, however, they are doing this on a very professional level. Later on in the interview, she stretches her arms out across the table as she is talking (and she is doing the majority of the talking). (Makes me think to myself "Hmmmm...") In part 2 of the interview, she has moved her chair and is sitting right next to EE with her leg crossed and is sitting so close to him that he accidently touches her and apologizes. She is constantly rubbing her leg. YM comes in to go over his material with her and he has to interrupt her saying "I've listened to you talk for awhile." In the FBI interview, she crosses her leg and is constantly rubbing her leg. As she is incessently talking she raises her arms and runs her hands through her hair.
These are all signs of being totally at ease with these men and craving their attention. In my opinion, she is so much like KC it's unreal.
Perhaps when she saw herself on video it was embarrassing and humiliating for her to realize that the detectives were not watching her for personal interest but studying her (and videotaping her) for professional reasons and to incriminate her KC? JMO
I have read that people like CA (who can be labeled as narcissists) usually come from abusive (either physically or verbally) homes. I've surmised that KC is also narcissistic, and I would bet on an easy dollar that CA is extremely abusive (verbally - not sure about physically). I have also read that narcissistic personalities also will become "enmeshed" with a personality of which they can dominate or control (i.e. CA with GA). IMO, even though these are "labels", these "personality disorders" still can receive therapy and change if they so desire.One Lost Girl....you are amazing!
How DID Shirley turn out someone like Cindy?.....makes me wonder.
You are very welcome, I thought he said it well too. I have even wondered about Kathi's last question, will the Anthony's behavior cause the jury to sympathize with Casey ? There have been times, I admit, that I have looked at Cindy and George and felt sorry for Casey. Would I allow that same sympathy to affect a decision regarding Caylee's murder, I don't think so...I hope the jurors don't either.
She was really stoopid when she threw that one out there! I mean really! They're searching for your KIDNAPPED grand-daughter and 9 months later you decide to mention that you had the babysitter's phone number and address. Might as well just say that you're a stoopid cow or a liar. Take your pick.
MOO
~bolded by me ~Didn't Cindy state very early on that she did NOT have an address or phone number for ZG? I swear this is the premise we've gone on from Day 31.
Based on that premise, you have to ask yourself why she would lie about having addresses/phone numbers for ZG.
Is she covering for *herself*? She's heard/read people saying it's odd, irresponsible, uncaring, whatever for her not to have gotten an address or phone number for the 'nanny', and saying this to make herself look better?
Or is she, as with the odd 'if Caylee said the dog was Zanny's then there *must* be a Zanny', fabricating the addresses/phone number to try to 'make' the nanny 'real'?
In either case, it's so odd that she was so intent on whatever her purpose was, that she failed to look at the consequences of saying it, since saying it just makes so much look even worse, and since it is such an obvious lie.
But what's interesting is, we can see this same severe shortsightedness in KC. Act on impulse in the moment, deal with the snowballing consequences later. (Or is it that they just *never* expect consequences to happen to them?)
Strange stuff.
Sorry, that was a "zinger" question that JM asked. It was rude and "cute" and sarcastic. Totally uncalled for. Very tabloid. He should have been above asking such things.
You all know what I think of the attorneys' performances. I made comments about the deponents CA and GA without having seen the depo videos, having only quickly read the first draft transcripts. I was WRONG in those comments about CA's testimony and behavior. (I haven't done GA's yet, so I don't know)
I admit when I am wrong and I am apologizing to everyone here for telling you my opinion before I had done my homework. To go line by line through the depo and explain everything would take days, so please understand that I will not do that unless someone is paying me. (lol) So, take it for what it is worth to you.
CA you did great. Your behavior was not outrageous under the circumstances and your aggravation with the poorly prepared and worded questions was understandable.
I gotta say, after watching the depo, it made me want to go down to Orlando and offer my services for free. I am thinking of writing a letter to CA to apologize, even though she doesn't know that I judged her before seeing or hearing the evidence.
I can't beleive I was so slack as to make a comment without having witnessed the event. Shame on me.
Didn't Cindy state very early on that she did NOT have an address or phone number for ZG? I swear this is the premise we've gone on from Day 31.
Based on that premise, you have to ask yourself why she would lie about having addresses/phone numbers for ZG.
Is she covering for *herself*? She's heard/read people saying it's odd, irresponsible, uncaring, whatever for her not to have gotten an address or phone number for the 'nanny', and saying this to make herself look better?
Or is she, as with the odd 'if Caylee said the dog was Zanny's then there *must* be a Zanny', fabricating the addresses/phone number to try to 'make' the nanny 'real'?
In either case, it's so odd that she was so intent on whatever her purpose was, that she failed to look at the consequences of saying it, since saying it just makes so much look even worse, and since it is such an obvious lie.
But what's interesting is, we can see this same severe shortsightedness in KC. Act on impulse in the moment, deal with the snowballing consequences later. (Or is it that they just *never* expect consequences to happen to them?)
Strange stuff.
Didn't Cindy state very early on that she did NOT have an address or phone number for ZG? I swear this is the premise we've gone on from Day 31.
Based on that premise, you have to ask yourself why she would lie about having addresses/phone numbers for ZG.
Is she covering for *herself*? She's heard/read people saying it's odd, irresponsible, uncaring, whatever for her not to have gotten an address or phone number for the 'nanny', and saying this to make herself look better?
Or is she, as with the odd 'if Caylee said the dog was Zanny's then there *must* be a Zanny', fabricating the addresses/phone number to try to 'make' the nanny 'real'?
In either case, it's so odd that she was so intent on whatever her purpose was, that she failed to look at the consequences of saying it, since saying it just makes so much look even worse, and since it is such an obvious lie.
But what's interesting is, we can see this same severe shortsightedness in KC. Act on impulse in the moment, deal with the snowballing consequences later. (Or is it that they just *never* expect consequences to happen to them?)
Strange stuff.
If I had a need for legal representation, I'd want Morgan and Co. on my side. Now BC, not so much.