Identified! AR - Whitehall Motel in El Dorado, WhtFem, 81UFAR, 18-21, Jul'91 - #1 - Kelly from VA

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LaWanda said:
From UID's Description:
Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair at the time of her death; however, it had been previously dyed blonde, as the photos above attest. She had blue eyes. She had a small birthmark or scar beneath her left breast; she also had freckles. 3 piercings in right ear and approximately 2 in left ear.

From Michelle Mulcahy's description:
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; blue eyes.
Marks, Scars: Mulcahy has a small scar under her left breast.

I didn't read the full thread, but if Mulcahy has been thrown out there, and ruled out, please forgive me. This just stood out to me. Also, if you look at the pics, the left (looking at the pics) nostril on the nose kinda flares on both the UID and Michelle. The pics look a lot alike to me for some reason.
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Michelle Mulcahy was ruled out.

https://identifyus.org/?p=case&i=2813&=1&s=DateFound_DESC&from=search
 
TexasLil said:
Michelle Mulcahy was ruled out.

https://identifyus.org/?p=case&i=2813&=1&s=DateFound_DESC&from=search
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I was just coming to post the same link!!! Kelli McGinnis is not on that list, but was ruled out, as well, according to Green River Killer investigators, by fingerprints (which is how Michelle was ruled out) and dentals, McGinnis is by far the closest facial match made here, such a bummer! Also, Michelle's family believes that she was a victim of Christopher Wilder, although, her body has not been found!! The middle photo of Michelle (with her hair blowing) was found among other photos of missing women and identified by family, however,the pictures were in Bill Bradfords possessions, Strange!!:eek:

I have not heard anything, still, about Rebecca Jean Dunn, I have sent email reminders to all investigators!! I know it takes awhile to investigate, it's just not an easy thing to wait it out :help
Also, I have been looking for the article that was supposed to be printed in the South Carolina area about Jane, it must not be online..... The journalists that I have been talking with, have not published her story either, still working out some details on the story! My friend, that is a Lingerie retailer, has taken Janes photo and flyer with her to the different 'clubs' that she visits, so far, no one has recognized her!! Could be, former co-workers/managers have moved on, I guess???? My friend says there is a big turn-over in that business....

Just so we have it listed here, these are the ladies that have been ruled out:
Lisa Sexton, Ohio
Stacy Madison, Arkansas
Michelle Mulcahy, Florida
Kelli McGinnis, Washington

If anyone has another name to add, please do so....:blowkiss:

Well, Back to sleuthing other cases.....BBL...
 
I was so sure it was Mulcahy after looking their profiles over!

I'm beginning to think the real identity of this woman just isn't in a missing persons database. Maybe she was an orphan/someone that slipped between the cracks or a runaway that had her file removed. If she was a prostitute for so long the latter seems possible to me. :(
 
I think the UID looks like what this girl might look like grown up:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2241dffl.html

I also think the UID is at least 5 or more years older than 21 -fair complected and freckled females can usually pass for much younger than they actually are. If you look at the morgue photos of the UID you can see lines that a 21 year old or younger just wouldn't have at that age. I think the too low age range is maybe why this one hasnt been solved also when someone should know her.
 
What do you guys think of this person? She is older than the Jane Doe, but I personally think she is much older than the 18-21 that they list her as. This girl is from Florida, same eye color, she as 5'8" as of 1985. I know it is a long shot, but their look is similar, especially in the side photos:
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200300285S

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/724dffl.html

This girl is from VA Beach, and may have a Florida connection as well:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/227dfva.html

A few others with similar backgrounds:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/546dftx.html

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1803dffl.html

Height is off, but she may have grown, or they may not know her correct height since she was missing so much:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2389dfwa.html

Far-fetched, but has a similar look:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2355dfma.html
 
I am doing background searches for all the alias that she used:

It appears that the 11/13/1970 birthdate that she gave when arrested was the real Cheryl Wicks birthdate.

I did a search for Shannon Wiley, and there is a 62 yr old Shannon Wiley from Virginia Beach. I wonder if they are a relation or someone she worked with? There are also Shannon Wiley's in TX, FL, Arkansas, Alabama. There are MANY Kellly Carr's across the country, and many Kelly Karr's as well.

The Cheryl Wick now appears to be married, and it does show that she has/had several Florida addresses. Perhaps that is where the Jane Doe met her, or Jane Does simply used Florida as a location because she knew Cheryl Wick had lived there at some point in time? There is also a Cheryl Wick from TX. There is also a Cheryl A Wick from OK, Oregon, and CO
 
Julessleuther, this info is helpful.

I have also looked at the possibility of a connection with Ginny Joyce Wilson because the facial resemblance is strong. I don't think they're the same person for a few reasons:

The Charley Project reports that she had a receding hairline, which our UID does not have. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wilson_virginia.html. Hair plugs would be obvious to the ME.

I also looked into her several months ago and did some web searches to try to find out more about her case. I can't for the life of me find the pages that I looked at then, but I believe that details of her case just didn't make sense for our UID. Ginny was a college graduate and disappeared under suspicious circumstances. Also, her age would place her in her forties when the UID was found.

I wish I could find the web pages! I can't remember what magic combo of words I used on google to find more info on her before!
 
You can watch the vidi-minitary here: http://video.asterpix.com/v/8798301/el-dorado-jane-doe-a-vidi-minitary/
I have paused and played it so many times,:banghead: that is where I saw the menus and her journal/diary writings and then researched the different menus and places! The height listed on the video says 5'11", that's the one thing that has changed, not sure why:confused:

Although Ginny Joyce Wilson has some resemblance to El Dorado Jane, she is listed as having brown eyes!

I still haven't heard anything about Kimberly Kahler or Rebecca Jean DUNN being ruled on..... I'm certainly glad I was blessed with patience!!
 
Julessleuther said:
I am doing background searches for all the alias that she used:

It appears that the 11/13/1970 birthdate that she gave when arrested was the real Cheryl Wicks birthdate.

I did a search for Shannon Wiley, and there is a 62 yr old Shannon Wiley from Virginia Beach. I wonder if they are a relation or someone she worked with? There are also Shannon Wiley's in TX, FL, Arkansas, Alabama. There are MANY Kellly Carr's across the country, and many Kelly Karr's as well.

The Cheryl Wick now appears to be married, and it does show that she has/had several Florida addresses. Perhaps that is where the Jane Doe met her, or Jane Does simply used Florida as a location because she knew Cheryl Wick had lived there at some point in time? There is also a Cheryl Wick from TX. There is also a Cheryl A Wick from OK, Oregon, and CO
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She was arrested twice while in Texas and using the Cheryl Wick alias. See post 315 for the arrest history.
 
Fairy1 said:
:Welcome-12-june: stellameredith - glad to have you here! Great observations and I agree with you that we won't find her on the missing persons boards. Based on what we do know about the lifestyle she was living, it seems doubtful that she would have been truthful about her name or past with anyone or that her "friends" would be the kind of folks clamoring to speak to LE. For one so young, she seems to have been around the block. My gut tells me she was on the streets for a long time and did whatever she had to do to survive. This would also explain why her murder probably wasn't widely publicized.

I sure hate to keep :eek:ther_beatingA_Dead - but I still believe our best chance to ID her lies with the Stroud family whose bible was found in her possessions. Maybe they were a foster family that was hesitant in admitting this girl took off on their watch and just wanted the whole thing to go away??? She had their family bible FGS! There has to be some kind of deeper connection. IMO!!!
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I agree this is the best chance, there has to be records somewhere if they were a foster family.
 
I realize that, and perhaps did not make my question clear. There is a reason she chose the name Cheryl Wick. Did she meet the real Cheryl Wick somewhere? Take it as a random name? I am just trying to find a connection.
TexasLil said:
She was arrested twice while in Texas and using the Cheryl Wick alias. See post 315 for the arrest history.
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MadeaBecBec said:
You can watch the vidi-minitary here: http://video.asterpix.com/v/8798301/el-dorado-jane-doe-a-vidi-minitary/
I have paused and played it so many times,:banghead: that is where I saw the menus and her journal/diary writings and then researched the different menus and places! The height listed on the video says 5'11", that's the one thing that has changed, not sure why:confused:

Although Ginny Joyce Wilson has some resemblance to El Dorado Jane, she is listed as having brown eyes!

I still haven't heard anything about Kimberly Kahler or Rebecca Jean DUNN being ruled on..... I'm certainly glad I was blessed with patience!!
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Im BAAAACK!!! hahaha Ok, I am really starting to think her name really was Kelly Carr and there was no one to notice her gone-that is so depressing to even think about but maybe there really were no relitaves or friends to miss her, that would explain her lifestyle!
 
Any word on new rule outs? I still really believe it good be Martha Lambert. The eyes and nose are almost identical, and Jane sounds like someone who came from the same home life as Martha....
 
Syttende said:
I think Michelle Mulcahy is the best candidate here, because of the matching scars and striking resemblance, in addition to other match-ups (height, hair/eye color, etc).

Does anyone know if that match has been submitted?
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I agree. Can anyone answer if it has been submitted. Best match I can see.
 
How can this be submitted? I can if you want by e-mail.
 
I was thinking that too...
maybe if having her case on here more people will figure who she could be?

I was looking this case over for a few years now..
I was wondering if she was a little gilr abductee?
and perhaps has grown up with the people who took her then finally left?
 
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