Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #5

[Peter Kurten]

My opinion is that WA didn't have anywhere near the sufficient preparedness to deal with these crimes. While they did employ innovative software and investigative techniques and structures, the information overload and lack of evidence was immense.

I also believe that David Caporn single handedly destroyed any potential this investigation had.

Despite all of this, the fact remains that the WA Police inquiries into these crimes have been largely responsive to incoming information. Their use of academic profiling is minimal and noticeable patterns in local geography, criminal behaviour and local factors relevant to Claremont and it's surrounds have been largely unexplored. I think there is a real chance of solving these crimes by opening up new avenues , especially seeing as the the abductions themselves were concentrated so much in the one area.

 

[Bartholemeus]

Cab driver: Police have proof - I did not abduct Sarah Spiers
Page 2 - June 4, 2016: http://postnewspapers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/POST_04-1.pdf

"Police accused Steven Ross of abducting Sarah Spiers from Claremont in 1996, but he says his taxi-driving records prove he did not."

Interesting letter by Steve Ross.

A few things I didn't know

1. The "blonde haired guy" didn't know SS and wanted to get out with the drunk woman dropped in Dalkeith.

2. Macro approached him 12 month ago asking about the blonde haired guy.

 

[crabstick]

Still DNA testing people only last year. I don't have a source. Just people I know were being DNA tested that were in the area on the nights.

I don't know about anyone else but I can't find any similar murders anywhere else in the world let alone interstate.

My best guess is the CSK stopped and is still residing in Perth, most likely within a 7km radius of Claremont.

I'm quite confident that Macro would have checked every male that left Perth within a year of the last murder, and also checked people who were incarcerated during that period.

 

[crabstick]

Are you sure it was the "blonde haired guy" in the taxi with SS? This is the same "blonde haired guy" that was talking to JR? If so, that makes for some interesting points.

Personally, I think people need to do some more research on the "blonde haired guy".

Interesting letter by Steve Ross.

A few things I didn't know

1. The "blonde haired guy" didn't know SS and wanted to get out with the drunk woman dropped in Dalkeith.

2. Macro approached him 12 month ago asking about the blonde haired guy.

 

[crabstick]

Care to elaborate on reasons how? Please.

I also believe that David Caporn single handedly destroyed any potential this investigation had..

 

[firestarter]

Are you sure it was the "blonde haired guy" in the taxi with SS? This is the same "blonde haired guy" that was talking to JR? If so, that makes for some interesting points.

Personally, I think people need to do some more research on the "blonde haired guy".

Could blonde haired guy be MM or MW
Not ruling out wigs or hair dye.


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[crabstick]

I suggested MM could be blonde, and was immediately ridiculed an idiot

Disguise should not be discounted in serial offences. It is very very common.

In saying that, Jane Rimmer was talking to a blonder hair guy. 1% of the global population as discussed in the suitcase murder of Khandles thread.

You can see why police are reluctant to release an identikit

I have a source so I can say it. Police are DNA testing everyone in the room.

Debi, Marshall, 2007. The Devil's Garden: The Claremont Serial Killings. 2nd ed. Australia: Random House.

Could blonde haired guy be MM or MW
Not ruling out wigs or hair dye.

 

[Bartholemeus]

Are you sure it was the "blonde haired guy" in the taxi with SS? This is the same "blonde haired guy" that was talking to JR? If so, that makes for some interesting points.

Perhaps you are imagining something?

1. There were reports of a "blonde haired guy" in early articles supplied by papertrail. I have no idea if the guy SR is referring to is the same guy. I'm sceptical there was a blonde haired guy in SR's cab the previous night at all.

2. The only guy I have seen talking to JR is "brown haired guy". Also known as MM.

 

[crabstick]

In a post a couple pages back, it says JR was talking to blond hair guy in pub

Perhaps you are imagining something?

1. There were reports of a "blonde haired guy" in early articles supplied by papertrail. I have no idea if the guy SR is referring to is the same guy. I'm sceptical there was a blonde haired guy in SR's cab the previous night at all.

2. The only guy I have seen talking to JR is "brown haired guy". Also known as MM.

 

[Sutton]

Cab driver: Police have proof - I did not abduct Sarah Spiers
Page 2 - June 4, 2016: http://postnewspapers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/POST_04-1.pdf

"Police accused Steven Ross of abducting Sarah Spiers from Claremont in 1996, but he says his taxi-driving records prove he did not."

Finally--an explanation that makes sense.

It sounds like this former POI has a lot to say, but no platform.

This totally clears Steve Ross in my mind. And he was publicly cleared some time back. Mr. Ross, if you read on WS please consider becoming a verified insider and joining the thread.

 

[Sutton]

Could blonde haired guy be MM or MW
Not ruling out wigs or hair dye.


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Who's MW?

 

[Bartholemeus]

In a post a couple pages back, it says JR was talking to blond hair guy in pub

It doesn't say that at all. It says a witness referred to MM as blonde.

 

[firestarter]

Who's MW?

Mystery Woman.
Crabstick believes MM is female.



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[Bartholemeus]

And he was publicly cleared some time back.

He has never been publicly cleared. I think it's important we stick to facts.

FWIW, I don't think a guilty person would write that letter.

 

[delbertGrady]

Finally--an explanation that makes sense.

It sounds like this former POI has a lot to say, but no platform.

This totally clears Steve Ross in my mind. And he was publicly cleared some time back. Mr. Ross, if you read on WS please consider becoming a verified insider and joining the thread.

he comes across as very sincere. im glad he has spoken out.

 

[Sutton]

Mystery Woman.
Crabstick believes MM is female.
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Of course. I was racking my brain for all previously discussed POIs.

He has never been publicly cleared. I think it's important we stick to facts.

FWIW, I don't think a guilty person would write that letter.

You're right--SR has never been publicly cleared. My mistake.

 

[crabstick]

WHere does it say Mystery Man? I wouldn't call MM hair a bob. Ill find the other statement about JR

There is more than one camera. More that people havent seen. Dont presume it is the camera outside the pub, especially the mention in the article below. It does not state outside video or mystery man. Remember, it has stated in the image source, the cops are DNA testing people 'inside' the pub.

Thanks
This article says blonde bobbed hair man approached this woman on night before CG disappeared offering a lift.
The woman said he looked like a man on security footage with blonde hair seen talking to JR.
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Who is man with blonde hair talking to JR? Is that why security footage was "enhanced" ?
If he really is the son of a policeman.... then WTF.
He is obviously not out with friends (otherwise he would be driving them home, and would have been identified), and he is obviously not drinking because he's driving. What exactly was he doing ??

It doesn't say that at all. It says a witness referred to MM as blonde.

 

[crabstick]

Im not saying MM is female. Im not discounting MM as being female.
The shirt is a couple of sizes too big. The collar is flared to hide the persons build, and make them look bigger. The person has no shoulders, no jaw line, the body is slender. We deliberately dont get to see the persons face. The persons hair is incredibly thick. There is a chance the person is pretending to be male.

Its like the walking coat hanger. The elbows in the shirt appear to hang past the elbows on the person. A heroin addict even. The person is hiding their build, hiding their identity.
Look at the incredible difference in stature of the bloke behind this person.
Does the shirt even belong to this person? First day of a job? uniform?

Mystery Woman.
Crabstick believes MM is female.

Of course. I was racking my brain for all previously discussed POIs.



You're right--SR has never been publicly cleared. My mistake.

 

[CSK?]

I grew up in a small country town in New Zealand in the mid 1990's, the the over sized shirt with a flared collar looks exactly like how skinny farm boys would dress up for a night out, it might be your opinion that these are signs of trying to conceal ones body type, I simply see it as a style that MM thought looked cool. I'd bet not just my right nut, but the left nut too that MM is not a female. That footage was looked at by hundreds if not thousands of police & experts as well as being enhanced by NASA, Not once has there been any public statement or acknowledgement that MM could in fact be female, only that they would like to identify mystery MAN.

 

[crabstick]

The shirt is so big, if they did up the collar the shirt would look silly. Look at the bloke 10 feet behind the MM. You got skinny right. Hes a scarecrow

Are you saying he is a skinny New Zealand trendy farm boy? How old do you think Skinny farm boy is? Jane Rimmer is 23

Maybe that is the problem, looking for a man, when they should be looking for a woman. They have DNA. They should have a profile.
Im saying, dont jump to conclusion it is a boy, it may well be a girl pretending to be a skinny NZ skinny farm boy.

NASA hasn't found the killer either. Just looking at the hair over the ears, it looks like the biggest cow lick forehead you ever seen.

I grew up in a small country town in New Zealand in the mid 1990's, the the over sized shirt with a flared collar looks exactly like how skinny farm boys would dress up for a night out, it might be your opinion that these are signs of trying to conceal ones body type, I simply see it as a style that MM thought looked cool. I'd bet not just my right nut, but the left nut too that MM is not a female. That footage was looked at by hundreds if not thousands of police & experts as well as being enhanced by NASA, Not once has there been any public statement or acknowledgement that MM could in fact be female, only that they would like to identify mystery MAN.