Found Deceased Australia - Jesse Baird, 26, TV presenter and partner Luke Davies, 29. blood located at home, 23 Feb 2024 *arrest*

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I also think the sea is a possibility, but there's also the vast expanse of bushland between Paddington and Lambton to consider.

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From Paddington to Lambton via M1.

1 hr 51 min (155 km)
For the best route in current traffic visit Paddington to Lambton

Switch to satellite. See that vast expanse of green? Yeah. That's all bush, much of it pretty impenetrable except by fire trails. Some of the hills are precipitously steep. If you've ever driven Sydney to Newcastle, especially in an underpowered or unreliable car, you'll know what I'm talking about. It's an experience, even with the M1.

I think it has been said the van was seen in Newcastle (Lambton) on Thursday, at the home of one of BL's friends? The van was found in Grays Point on Friday after BL turned himself in. If I had to guess, I'd say BL had disposed of the bodies long before he went to Lambton.

The murders appear to have happened on Monday, the van was rented late Monday, and the bodies were presumably disposed of on Monday/Tuesday when BL took the day off work. Bloody belongings of the victims were found in a skip at Cronulla on Wednesday, I think.

Most of the activity around the murders seems to be located in the region between Paddington and Cronulla on Monday/Tuesday. Unless LE have other evidence, that's the region where I'd personally be looking. Lambton feels like it might be a false lead, although of course LE have to take it seriously.

BL seems to be a "clout chaser" for lack of a better term. My fear is that he'd not only kill a former boyfriend and his new partner, but would want notoriety from it. Jesse Baird reminds me of Ross Warren, another tv news presenter, who was killed in 1989 at Marks Park as one of many gay-bashing murders at the time. He was thrown over the cliff and has never been found. I fear BL might see a wonderful irony in disposing of Jesse and Luke the same way.
 
As a police officer, the alleged perpetrator, should be aware of the ‘No body, no parole’ laws. Lamarre should just do the right thing and disclose where the two bodies are. All families would benefit, including his own.
 
It was addressed in the last police press interview. One of the reporters inquired if the accused had contacted triple 0 before giving himself in. It was said that a triple 0 call was made, but who made that call was still yet to be determined.
Thank you, I've read a bunch of articles but didn't get around to watching the presser. Nobody had mentioned it that I'd seen in the thread, so I wasn't sure if it was new info or not.

It could be anyone, then. Victims calling futilely for help, the perpetrator calling for whatever reason, or neighbours calling because they heard shots. (Gunfire is rare here, even in the middle of our biggest city.) Heck, it could have been a friend calling because they couldn't reach the victims and feared something grave had happened.

MOO
 
Thank you, I've read a bunch of articles but didn't get around to watching the presser. Nobody had mentioned it that I'd seen in the thread, so I wasn't sure if it was new info or not.

It could be anyone, then. Victims calling futilely for help, the perpetrator calling for whatever reason, or neighbours calling because they heard shots. (Gunfire is rare here, even in the middle of our biggest city.) Heck, it could have been a friend calling because they couldn't reach the victims and feared something grave had happened.

MOO
Yes, I agree. When I first heard about the triple 0 call, my mind immediately went to a neighbour possibly calling it in, especially given the terrace homes closeness. How didn't anyone hear the gunshot? If it happened during the day, might it be dismissed as a car backfiring?

BL did go to his uncle's house in Greys Point before turning himself in, so it could have also happened then. 7NewsBrisbane (FB) has a exclusive on that.
 
New South Wales police officer Beaumont Lamarre-Condon, 28, was taken into custody Friday morning, according to CNN, and charged with murdering Jesse Baird, 26, and Luke Davies, 29.

It’s alleged that Lamarre-Condon was previously in a romantic relationship with Baird, a former television host for Network 10 in Australia. After the couple’s relationship fell apart, Baird had most recently been involved with Davies, a flight attendant.

Local news outlets described Lamarre-Condon as a “celebrity-chasing” cop, noting he previously ran a blog about celebrities and posted photos of himself on social media posing for pictures with the likes of Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga.

Beau Lamarre-Condon with Kourtney Kardashian and Travis Barker

The New South Wales police officer posed alongside the stars just days before turning himself into his colleagues
 
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Yes, I agree. When I first heard about the triple 0 call, my mind immediately went to a neighbour possibly calling it in, especially given the terrace homes closeness. How didn't anyone hear the gunshot? If it happened during the day, might it be dismissed as a car backfiring?

BL did go to his uncle's house in Greys Point before turning himself in, so it could have also happened then. 7NewsBrisbane (FB) has a exclusive on that.
A neighbour maybe did hear the gunshot/s when it happened but it’s possible the police didn’t want to release all the info they had at the time.
 
Wow if the van in Newy is the van in question, then he certainly has travelled a lot.

No idea why he would so clumsily commit this crime, hand himself in, and then not cooperate.
I don’t think he is necessarily the brightest of sparks. The whole celebrity blogging thing suggests to me he has personality issues.
 
Can we just for a second talk about how Lamarre is an absolutely terrible cop? Not because he murdered 2 beautiful men or the taser incident or his questionable celebrity chasing antics these all of course show he's a terrible cop but what kind of idiot shoots his ex with his service weapon leaves bullet casings behind hides bloodied evidence badly and thinks he can get away with it?? He had to know he was screwed
But now he is the celebrity?!
 
I really wonder how he passed training, evaluation and assessment to become a police officer in the first place. I don't think this came out of nowhere.

MOO
Going to suggest here that there are a number of industries that are suffering from a severe shortage (or forecasted shortage in the near future). I believe police force is one of those. To counteract this, previous rigid entry standards have been somewhat relaxed to increase the number available for consideration amongst the already limited pool of candidates. I wouldn’t have thought this would extend to personality evaluation and assessment in policing, but possibly?
 
it all seems very odd....turn self in but then to not cooperate, wonders what his motive is.
I know nothing about Australian law, but in the U.S. it can be illegal to flee in order to avoid prosecution. It can also be dangerous to be a fugitive--if the police want you, your choices are to try and hide forever (which most people can't do), turn yourself in, or wait until they come to you and apprehend you (which could involve violence). In the U.S., you're generally not obligated to talk with Law Enforcement, and attorneys will generally advise you not to.

No idea if Australia is the same, but at the least it's safer for him to turn itself in.
 
I also think the sea is a possibility, but there's also the vast expanse of bushland between Paddington and Lambton to consider.
I have a feeling that dumping bodies at sea requires a bit too much sophistication/planning (at least if you're hoping they won't be found). You're going to need a boat, access to a boat ramp, higher risk of being seen, something to weight the bodies down, etc. Unless you try and throw the bodies off a cliff, which have slim to none chances of hiding anything at all.

From all that we know from this story so far I would expect to find the bodies in the woods, or buried somewhere remote(ish) in the areas the perp has visited.
But I can always be surprised by what criminals do, so I guess we can only speculate and hope he reveals where Jesse and Luke are.

MOO
 
I have a feeling that dumping bodies at sea requires a bit too much sophistication/planning (at least if you're hoping they won't be found). You're going to need a boat, access to a boat ramp, higher risk of being seen, something to weight the bodies down, etc. Unless you try and throw the bodies off a cliff, which have slim to none chances of hiding anything at all.

From all that we know from this story so far I would expect to find the bodies in the woods, or buried somewhere remote(ish) in the areas the perp has visited.
But I can always be surprised by what criminals do, so I guess we can only speculate and hope he reveals where Jesse and Luke are.

MOO
Yes between Sydney and Newcastle, there are huge amounts of bushland and national parks. There are also several traffic monitoring cameras on the freeway. IMO it would been far more likely that he would have disposed of bodies as soon as possible. He hired a van at 930pm Monday night from Mascot and took the next day off work. What did he do for those next few days?

Constable Lamarre-Condon worked in a specialist command and was on full duties, contrary to some suggestions he was on leave.

He took the day off on Tuesday.

Police have established he was in Newcastle on Thursday night and a crime scene has been set up around a suburban street in Lambton.

Superintendent Doherty said police would allege the murders took place on Monday during the day, before the van was hired at 9:30 pm.

 
There is a rear access laneway / no-through road behind the Paddington house in Brown St.
Easy access to the back of the house with little attention to remove bodies or evidence without being noticed so easily. The white van is seen turning from out of Cooper Street left onto Brown st whilst mounting the curb.

I wonder if anyone has CCTV in that rear lane

Detectives are desperately searching for a white van they believe was being driven by Constable Beau Lamarre, the police officer who has been arrested over the disappearance of eastern suburbs couple Jesse Baird and Luke Davies.
They have appealed for anyone who knows the location of the Toyota HiAce with NSW registration CW82PM, or who has seen the vehicle since Monday evening, to contact them immediately


 
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I know nothing about Australian law, but in the U.S. it can be illegal to flee in order to avoid prosecution. It can also be dangerous to be a fugitive--if the police want you, your choices are to try and hide forever (which most people can't do), turn yourself in, or wait until they come to you and apprehend you (which could involve violence). In the U.S., you're generally not obligated to talk with Law Enforcement, and attorneys will generally advise you not to.

No idea if Australia is the same, but at the least it's safer for him to turn itself in.
Essentially you turn yourself in bc you know you know you’re about to be arrested. It lets you control the situation - where and when, how much force is used, how the media responds, whether your family are there and have to see it all, etc.

You also then get to say you did the right thing which helps with a plea or with sentencing.

One you’re in custody, it’s not then expected you’d admit everything. Listening to your lawyer isn’t looked upon negatively. You have the right to a lawyer and a lawyer would tell you not to actively incriminate yourself.

Also, I imagine he will be thinking very carefully when and how he discloses the other information. Depending on the way he killed them it could be better or worse for him to disclose where the bodies are now. It’s hard to prove murder without a body, so hes probably waiting to see whether he can force a good deal since prosecution have a harder job if they can’t show a body or prove how it happened (eg “it was spur of the moment, I didn’t mean to” compared to premeditation). Long term I imagine he will disclose given the no body no parole law.
 
Essentially you turn yourself in bc you know you know you’re about to be arrested. It lets you control the situation - where and when, how much force is used, how the media responds, whether your family are there and have to see it all, etc.

You also then get to say you did the right thing which helps with a plea or with sentencing.

One you’re in custody, it’s not then expected you’d admit everything. Listening to your lawyer isn’t looked upon negatively. You have the right to a lawyer and a lawyer would tell you not to actively incriminate yourself.

Also, I imagine he will be thinking very carefully when and how he discloses the other information. Depending on the way he killed them it could be better or worse for him to disclose where the bodies are now. It’s hard to prove murder without a body, so hes probably waiting to see whether he can force a good deal since prosecution have a harder job if they can’t show a body or prove how it happened (eg “it was spur of the moment, I didn’t mean to” compared to premeditation). Long term I imagine he will disclose given the no body no parole law.
At this point I can’t even imagine you’d ever get parole for committing a horrific crime like this. He went to where they were…
 
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