Deceased/Not Found Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *husband guilty* #5

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EssieMarie83 said:
Anyone know when we are likely to hear about the result of this trial?

If the appeal is won is that the end of it?
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2 excellent questions.

The Australian's podcast 'The Front' is continuing to cover Dawson's legal fight. They uploaded an episode on May 9th, in the lead-up to this appeal. I will listen to it tonight. I suspect they will issue another episode shortly that brings people up to date with what took place in court today.
 
TootsieFootsie said:
I was wondering the same thing. If he wins this appeal, is that it, he's free. ?
Or is it an appeal for a new trial.

Thanks @Cliff Hardy, I'll have a listen too.

A pity Lyn doesn't get a second chance to be alive and free.
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Dawson won't be walking in any case as he has the sentence he received for carnal knowledge, in a separate case, to serve.
 
www.abc.net.au

Appeal team argue Chris Dawson's wife had 'high level of despair' leading up to disappearance and chose to leave

Former Sydney teacher Chris Dawson has launched an appeal against his murder conviction with his legal team arguing his first wife was in despair and chose to leave the family home.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

Dawson has come up with a whole new story, now.. Now, .. 40 years later, the 'running off to a religious cult' story has faded away, all the other stories, Lynn working at a hospital, lynn at a fruit market, Lynn at a bus stop,, etc. ...all this is now water under the bridge and lo and behold, this story is now , apparently, the operative one....

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During the judge-alone trial, Dawson's legal team said Ms Simms may have chosen to leave her family, having had her trust terribly broken because of Dawson's behaviour with the babysitter, who moved into their marital home.

Ms Rigg told the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal Ms Simms experienced a "high level of despair" in the six months leading up to her disappearance and was well aware of Dawson's capacity to care for their children

"There was significant evidence of Ms [Simms'] despair and loss of hope and self-esteem over the months in the second half of 1981, as she confided in a number of people in terms of what was happening," she said.

( whodathunk it??... Dawson's capacity to care for their children!!!!... an astonishing claim ) ...

One of the appeal judges, Justice Christine Adamson, said: "Nonetheless the applicant [Dawson], from his point of view, wanted to keep the children, wanted to keep the house and wanted to keep JC and one way of doing that would be to murder his wife."

Ms Rigg said only two weeks before Ms Simms vanished, Dawson had shown a preparedness to leave the children and the house — and had demonstrated he was not particularly concerned about financial consequences.
 
Trooper said:
www.abc.net.au

Appeal team argue Chris Dawson's wife had 'high level of despair' leading up to disappearance and chose to leave

Former Sydney teacher Chris Dawson has launched an appeal against his murder conviction with his legal team arguing his first wife was in despair and chose to leave the family home.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

Dawson has come up with a whole new story, now.. Now, .. 40 years later, the 'running off to a religious cult' story has faded away, all the other stories, Lynn working at a hospital, lynn at a fruit market, Lynn at a bus stop,, etc. ...all this is now water under the bridge and lo and behold, this story is now , apparently, the operative one....

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During the judge-alone trial, Dawson's legal team said Ms Simms may have chosen to leave her family, having had her trust terribly broken because of Dawson's behaviour with the babysitter, who moved into their marital home.

Ms Rigg told the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal Ms Simms experienced a "high level of despair" in the six months leading up to her disappearance and was well aware of Dawson's capacity to care for their children

"There was significant evidence of Ms [Simms'] despair and loss of hope and self-esteem over the months in the second half of 1981, as she confided in a number of people in terms of what was happening," she said.

( whodathunk it??... Dawson's capacity to care for their children!!!!... an astonishing claim ) ...

One of the appeal judges, Justice Christine Adamson, said: "Nonetheless the applicant [Dawson], from his point of view, wanted to keep the children, wanted to keep the house and wanted to keep JC and one way of doing that would be to murder his wife."

Ms Rigg said only two weeks before Ms Simms vanished, Dawson had shown a preparedness to leave the children and the house — and had demonstrated he was not particularly concerned about financial consequences.
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One small problem with this theory is that there is no evidence that Lynn left her family to start a life somewhere else. The judge already addressed this in him judgement.
 
musicaljoke said:
One small problem with this theory is that there is no evidence that Lynn left her family to start a life somewhere else. The judge already addressed this in him judgement.
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Today his legal rep was heavy on that old yarn, the worn out furphy of the 'long distance phone call ' at the swimming pool that Saturday morning... same old stuff, nothing new. Something that cannot be proven or disproven, so Dawson has glommed onto it. It might float, it probably won't. His life has been one long drawn out disaster, decade after decade, and it's reaching it's fitting end, staring out between the bars from Silverwater Prison.
 
The Australian's podcast 'The Front' uploaded a 20 minute episode last night following the 1st day of the appeal. Should be informative as they are in attendance. I will hopefully get a chance to listen to it at lunch time.
 
Managed to listen to the first 15 minutes of last night's edition of 'The Front' during lunch. The 3 judges seem to be unimpressed with what Rigg, on behalf of Dawson, is serving up. She must be struggling to keep a straight face with some the things she is suggesting to the court.
 
Trooper said:
www.abc.net.au

Appeal team argue Chris Dawson's wife had 'high level of despair' leading up to disappearance and chose to leave

Former Sydney teacher Chris Dawson has launched an appeal against his murder conviction with his legal team arguing his first wife was in despair and chose to leave the family home.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

Dawson has come up with a whole new story, now.. Now, .. 40 years later, the 'running off to a religious cult' story has faded away, all the other stories, Lynn working at a hospital, lynn at a fruit market, Lynn at a bus stop,, etc. ...all this is now water under the bridge and lo and behold, this story is now , apparently, the operative one....

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During the judge-alone trial, Dawson's legal team said Ms Simms may have chosen to leave her family, having had her trust terribly broken because of Dawson's behaviour with the babysitter, who moved into their marital home.

Ms Rigg told the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal Ms Simms experienced a "high level of despair" in the six months leading up to her disappearance and was well aware of Dawson's capacity to care for their children

"There was significant evidence of Ms [Simms'] despair and loss of hope and self-esteem over the months in the second half of 1981, as she confided in a number of people in terms of what was happening," she said.

( whodathunk it??... Dawson's capacity to care for their children!!!!... an astonishing claim ) ...

One of the appeal judges, Justice Christine Adamson, said: "Nonetheless the applicant [Dawson], from his point of view, wanted to keep the children, wanted to keep the house and wanted to keep JC and one way of doing that would be to murder his wife."

Ms Rigg said only two weeks before Ms Simms vanished, Dawson had shown a preparedness to leave the children and the house — and had demonstrated he was not particularly concerned about financial consequences.
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Ms Rigg, should be writing stories for Hollywood or even Bollywood she's so funny.
 
TootsieFootsie said:

No chance convicted killer Dawson innocent, court told​


If his appeal succeeds, the court could either acquit him of murder or order a retrial.
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So far, and this does not mean that things cannot change , but nothing new has been bought up by Dawson's rep,, The same old stuff, except for the not startling news that Lynn was in despair over the situation at home. Odd that he waited 40 years to mention that unhappy ambience . All this time , he has stuck to the story that she just went shopping. Nothing about shopping in deep despair. Just being dropped off at the bus stop.

Some of the criteria that are necessary in a successful appeal.....
  • the verdict was not supported by the evidence
  • there was an error of law
  • there was an error in a ruling during trial
  • there was an error in the judge’s summing up to the jury
  • the verdict is unreasonable
  • there was an irregularity in the trial’s conduct
  • any other reason why you think you did not receive a fair trial.
There are a few more little things,, but these are the main ones, and really, Dawson has not produced any of these, as far as I can tell. He is trying for unsupported verdict ,, ie, dodgy evidence.. that's about it. No mention so far of an error of law, or error of rulng, or error in summing up to the jury ( he had a judge only trial ,so this one is not applicable ) no mention that the verdict is unreasonable, or any irregularity..

Of course, just being Chris Dawson does not mean he did not receive a fair trial. He got one of the fairest going, and he got all his demands met, except a permanent stay, that he did not get, but he got a free year because of publicity. Not every one gets that.
 
TootsieFootsie said:

‘Non-aggressive nature’: Chris Dawson makes ‘good character’ claim in bid for freedom​


I'm just the messenger ;)
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It's like la la land. If , and it is reasonable to do so, but say, IF, one accepts the verdict of a fully legally instigated court, with a fully legally qualified judge that Dawson murdered Lynn Simms, it is rational to follow on with all his other crimes that both preceded and followed Lynn';s murder, none of which , in any world add up to 'good character'.

Before Lynn's death, he was seducing and sexually abusing young girls, some of whom he was teaching at school, some of whom he latched onto outside of the predators paradise of school hunting grounds. He and his brother were moonlighting jobs, and keeping the wages of those jobs in a secret account, ( tax evasion ) .....

After Lynn's death, he appropriated all of Lynn's assets , but not her debts, he and Lynn owed Mr Simms $10,000 , a lot of money in those days, and Dawson simply sat on the money ( invested in the house ) and never paid it back. He gave away her clothing, her jewelry, and even her children. He instigated a sham divorce from a 'missing woman'. whom he knew to be dead, and having got that 'divorce decree'. went on and entered into a sham marriage his teenage baby sittter, in a big fat bigamist effort. Lied to his own children for 40 years. Entered into another sham divorce ( because is 'marriage' with JC was invalid , he was a widower, not a divorcee ),, and clonked right into another sham marriage.

All this time carrying Lynn's investment into the first marriage, scooping the pool to himself of the shared assets, seeking hired hitmen to knock off Lynn, Probably ditto for JC ,

Good character, ......
 
One of the sad ironies is, after murdering Lyn, Chris Dawson took off with all the assets and then what remained of them he frittered away defending himself for her murder. End result, there is nothing left and he is now defending himself using legal aid.
 
Cliff Hardy said:
One of the sad ironies is, after murdering Lyn, Chris Dawson took off with all the assets and then what remained of them he frittered away defending himself for her murder. End result, there is nothing left and he is now defending himself using legal aid.
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It is almost perrrrrfectly circular *dream eyed *.. In any other context it would be too fanciful to be true, but here we are. He would have been about $2 mill better off, and his superannuation still intact, if he'd served his time way back in the 80's.. Men could murder their wives with a certain amount of complimentary sentences being dished out .

Jamie Ramage, in 2003 (!) got a measly 11 years for the vile strangulation of his wife , Julie, who had the temerity to decide the marriage was in fact a lifetime of ghastliness, so she left . But , he found her, his defence was, she provoked him by referring to his bodily parts as inadequate, so he murdered her, and left his daughter to come home from school in a frenzy of horror about her missing mum.

SO Dawson had options. ... he did not have to kill Lynn.
 

Chris Dawson’s claim about key drawings of children​

Chris Dawson’s “odd behaviour” over a portrait of his two daughters commissioned by his wife has been questioned in court.

One of the judges overseeing the Chris Dawson appeal has questioned why the ex-rugby league star told a young artist that his wife didn’t want a commissioned portrait of their young children at a time in early 1982 when he was also claiming he expected her to return.
“Not only the reaction of the applicant for the complete lack of sentiment towards his own children but a complete lack of regard for the young artist … Your Honours might think a desire to quickly shut down any matter relating to his wife at that time,” Mr Hardiman said.

“It seems to me to be odd that he knows she doesn’t want them anymore … This is at a stage when he’s telling people he thinks she’s coming back,” Justice Julie Ward told the court.
 
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