Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #56

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  1. JLZ

    JLZ Well-Known Member

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    I don't think innocent forgetting is viable here because if William wasn't wearing his sandals he left them behind. FFC would have found them by now.

    Edit: As Dr Sleuth already pointed out.
     
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  2. mosae

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    Thankyou so my memory was correct. I find it strange there was no outcome reported. The coroner's final report may give detail though.

    Just because sandals were not found at the site doesn't mean William was wearing them imo. Said by me with no innuendo intended. I have a fact base mind.

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  3. purpleandgreen

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    Could you please supply links for these facts? many thanks.
     
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    It would seem to me to be just as important to focus on sandals as it was to focus the public on a spiderman suit when the knowing public would have thought the spider suit had black spider at front and back as the common spider suits have, whereas we are now told and shown black spiders at front and white spider at back.
     
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    What facts are you requiring links for?
     
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    From memory, the facts about the description of the spidey suit were kept in house as a tactic to catch the person responsible for the abduction. I know the links are back in previous threads; am hoping someone with more skills than me can help me out with the links, otherwise, I'll say IMO just to be safe.
     
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    <modsnip> Stress can do terrible things to ones mind processes. Such a tragic set of circumstances she must have felt very distressed when she recalled the car parked over the road and the thick necked man in a 2nd vehicle just terrible just a few hours later.
     
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  8. drsleuth

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    BBM It's not strange at all to me

    The coroner is the one who needs to know. Which IMO she does , by way of an expert report that she asked for & that would have been added to the brief as per this article IMO. I'm sure it'll be mentioned in her findings

    Actually, thinking about this I'm not sure that their ever was an "official " application in the end? Maybe your friend might remember?

    It certainly was mentioned & the coroner stated she was aware of what the application would be.

    I think the answer is simple & that the time was just set wrong on the camera IMO

    NoCookies | The Australian

    The NSW Coroner’s Court on Monday released a section of transcript from the inquiry into William’s disappearance, dealing with the issue.

    In the extract, from August 28, the counsel assisting the coroner, Gerard Craddock, told the court: “I’ve just been reminded there was going to be an application by Ms (Michelle) Swift (who represents William’s biological father) today. We’re not going to deal with that today because we need to obtain some further evidence which will relate to that application.”

    The coroner, Harriet Grahame, replied: “Yes, I think it’s important that that’s dealt with in detail, and we do need that further statement. It’s important.”

    Ms Swift then said: “Certainly … and if I can park that application until later.”

    Ms Grahame interjected: “I’m aware of what the application is. I think it’s important we’re pursuing it, and we’ll come back to it.”

    Mr Craddock then said: “We’re going to be obtaining some expert evidence that’s going to deal with that issue, amongst other things.”
     
  9. drsleuth

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    It's just so tragic , and than to hear in court on the last day , the FFC tell the coroner how much they have been trolled & what they have had to deal with just breaks my heart . Also listening to William's sister speak was one of the saddest things. There were so many really really tough days :(

    Family targeted by trolls
    William's foster family has also been stalked, harassed and bullied as they have had to endure sickening evidence.

    In one session, a young girl gave evidence that a convicted paedophile had told her he killed William.

    "Some of the people behind these deeply personal attacks have sat in the gallery of this very courtroom," the foster mother said.

    Those trolls — some of whom have gone as far to travel to Taree for two of the hearings — were sitting in Lidcombe Coroner's Court on Thursday.

    The court heard the foster mother had her father's grave photographed by a stranger and posted on social media.

    "At every opportunity, they have done everything to degrade our privacy," the foster mother said.

    "They have published our names and documents from the children's court about William and his sister — they have stalked our home and invited others to join in drive-bys.

    "They went as far as to make serious threats against our lives and one person was imprisoned for such threats."

    These attacks were on top of experiencing something "no parent should ever have to endure," the court heard.

    "We have been photographed at our most vulnerable — it breaks our hearts and is just so wrong," she said.
     
  10. JLZ

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    It sounds like the coroner and counsel assisting were going to be obtaining the expert evidence regardless of whether an application was made.
     
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    Spiderman suit used in undercover sting against William Tyrrell person of interest

    A day later, on October 6, 2017, Savage called Jubelin at home. This time, he said: “When I walked up there, I seen the white top, I think it was the white top with the stripes, and it was covered in dirt.”

    Jubelin says he was stunned. William had gone missing in a Spider-Man suit with a white spider on the back, but the suit that police had laid on the track? No white spider. It had only a black spider.

    Jubelin told the court he now thought Savage may have been “describing the suit William had disappeared in, and not the suit we had laid on the track”. This was a potential breakthrough. But again, there was disagreement.
     
  12. drsleuth

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    Yep, I think so JLZ
     
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    Many thanks, doc.
     
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    ADMIN NOTE:

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    Thanks for opening it up again.
     
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    In regard to the time of the photo's and other matters, we don't get to see or hear every bit of evidence that the Coroner and her Assistant have.

    There would possibly be hundreds of statements and a heap of other information that sadly is only reviewed by the Police, the Coroner and her Assistant, who then chooses what information is dealt with at the Inquest.

    They don't cover everything, and IMO, especially in this situation where the Investigation is ongoing.

    IMO Inquests aren't all they're cracked up to be.
     
  18. drsleuth

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    This inquest was particular frustrating for many reasons.............
     
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    A friend chased down a media link about the spider man suit being bought in Bali
    William Tyrrell: Missing boy's doomed life before 'handpicked' for care - NZ Herald

    Sorry for delay.
     
  20. SouthAussie

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    No problem. :)
    This info is all here back in the threads.

    I think we have every podcast linked, as well as all the articles that have ever been produced. You can do a search on relevant words using the search function here (at the top right of the page) to find what you want, so you can link it as required.

    There is also a media thread here, which contains a fair chunk of info (but not all of it because it requires a lot of maintaining).

    Australia - William Tyrrell MEDIA/TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*
     
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