Hiandmighty
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I'm so confused. Why did your friend's dad, the LE with the sidearm at sunday brunch, belong in prison?
I'm so confused. Why did your friend's dad, the LE with the sidearm at sunday brunch, belong in prison?
Maybe we should compare the # of cops killed by violence in the US versus the # of cops killed by violence in England.
Could it possibly be that there are just more bad cops in the US?
In view of the statistics, we cannot rule that out. It remains a distinct possibility. But that does not detract from the fact the the majority are good cops doing a decent job to the best of their abilities.
But are there more bad cops in the USA? I certainly think - based upon the video evidence broadcast globally of cops using firearms wholly innappropiately without apparently even considering the possibility of being held to account - that perhaps it has been too easy in some police departments to behave badly and get away with it, with bad behaviour covered up or explained away without any real investigation of complaints. The officers caught on tape seem to display every confidence that they can shoot someone who poses no threat with impunity. Clearly - in my opinion - complaints against officers behaving in this way should be properly investigated.
Here in the UK we have a body known as the IPCC - the Independent Police Complaints Commision - whose task is to lead investigations into allegations of police misconduct. Many such allegations do of course often prove to be groundless, but those where misconduct is clearly demonstrated do tend to result in disciplinary proceedings, and in the worst cases dismissals or even criminal prosecutions.
I don't know if such a body exists in the USA, but if not, perhaps there is a need for one to both restore public confidence, weed out the bad apples or deter officers from being bad apples, and better protect the good names and reputations of all decent police officers.
I agree completely. I think as well that there are inadequate resources for evaluating LE behavior, and in many places there is a need for independent investigation of the abuse of power by LE. Otherwise, it's sort of like my parents asking me if my brother was picking raspberries in my neighbour's yard, if we both were part of the same union or fraternal order of, I guess in this case, brothers.
In my opinion, the overwhelming majority of LE in the US are decent and thoughtful folks. The problem is that it doesn't take many to sour the broth, and if the culture is to protect the group, it can make for a dangerous soup.
eta -- if 5% of a population is a minority, and one learned that 5% of the population were murderers or rapists, should one be at ease? What if it were 4, 3, 2, or 1%? The thing is, the rates of LE criminality are higher than this.
If the good guys are protecting the bad guys, does that make them all bad guys?
I'm confused -- are you talking just about LE?
I want to know WHY we have so much more violence here than in those other areas ! I have some ideas to throw around , but my battery is low . I will come back and elaborate.
And this cop is facing criminal charges. So what is the point? Of course he has been fired, just like A British cop would be.
We can post many examples of bad cops here. And we can post many examples of bad citizens, bad doctors, bad teachers, bad parents...what is the point you are trying to make?