It's either just one rabbit hole after another... or not.
Sorry in advance but I started thinking about... Paris Hilton and that recent documentary about her.
Maybe I'm just seeing connections where there aren't any, but aren't we all remember how she was seen as the worst, basically that spoiled, rotten, prostitute who has no shame and just records sex tape in disregard of her family's sake?
But she didn't... that was revenge *advertiser censored*, she was groomed, betrayed, humiliated, she was a victim there but with existing narrative almost nobody was able to see that.
And in her documentary... when she finally reveals how she was abused and mistreated in that supposedly luxurious, great school with all kinds of high standards her sister is just oblivious to that. There is like no empathy, no understanding on Nicky's side, instead she asks her when or if she's going to apologize to their parents for what she put them through and how hard was that for them to live with such a rebelious child.
They wronged her, they failed her, they were unwilling and unable to understand her, they had no interest in assuring themselves that she's ok and there was no regret on their side for what they put her through.
I'm not suggesting that Reet's parents hurted her in any way because I don't know that. Different times, different kind of money, mostly everything is different. But if they raised them in kinda simmilar way, Anne being the golden child and Reet being kinda rebelious scapegoat kid they might come from the same home after living in two totally different worlds with lack of ability to really understand each other.
This might be why Anne appears insincere while talking about Reet - in my opinion. Not because she's lying, but because her perception of things was so different from Reet's and - let's be real - from perception of most people who care about missing and murdered people, that her words and general attitude seems insanely weird to them.
About her friend... I was rambling on and rambling on, coming to conclusion how it all makes no sense and doesn't fit at all...
But looking at it again it kinda does. Assuming that she's not lying nor making up stuff... it kinda makes sense.
She might saw herself as Reet's best friend but there is no telling how did she understand that - and there is more than one way.
The most obvious being that she cared about her deeply, knew her biggest secrets, shared hers with her, loved her etc.
Another possible way of being somebodys best friend is... just being a friend, however close and caring - if that person at least to your knowledge doesn't have anyone closer, more caring, more loving, more engaged in that relationship... you are their best friend, and it doesn't matter that for someone who really have friends this kind of closeness could count as being acquaintances.
She didn't cared about her deeply imo, cause she just casually talked with Jean some time after Reet got silent and didn't freak out about her friend's safety and wherabouts.
But with that "another way" of being somebodys best friend... it kinda fits, doesn't it? Person could not get immediately alarmed by not hearing for a friend who went on a trip to LA, maybe planned to visit her brother lately - since that person never had a great insight in their friend's plans, dreams and wants it's way more likely to come up with assumption that conntacting them isn't the highest priority anymore cause people usualy part ways at some point.
If Reet was ok that would probably melt up soon enough and they might barely remember each other in few years.
But Reet wasn't ok. It might be seen as an attempt to get into spotlight as her statements and actions went, and it might be a little bit (or a lot) of that there... but isn't that justified? Even if she wasn't the closest kind of friend anyone can have, she might be the closest friend Reet had... or at least the only one who still was there to speak.
She might just desperately want to show that she knew some of Reet's secrets and was close to her and for example mention that shocking fact of methadone use. If she knew about heroin, she would likely elaborate on that, but if it was like this one time, that huge deal for her, and possibly even for them both, that one time when Reet took methadone... wouldn't it look exactly like that? And wouldn't her behaviour perfectly fit actions of person who was (behind the scenes) belittled as not so close friend of Reet's, thus, attempting to prove that she indeed was?
I agree with you we can almost certainly rule out Reet being a methadone or opoid user or addict. But then we are left with the fact that her supposed best friend said this on Canadian T.V. Why? More and more I see that we are getting a lot of our picture of Reet from G.G. and she may be grandstanding a bit to get in the limelight. I almost sense some hostility but I could be reading into things too much there.
Or that hostility is there, but it's caused and aimed not at Reet but something or someone else who disapproved her talking about this case?
The Quebec artist habitue of Cafe Image does NOT say he remembers Reet it is He who does the drawing that looks like Jim Morrison (or Rodney Alcala). The drawing I mentioned is second from the left a few pages pages back. Two of the images appear to be self portraits. Reet did the one I think might be Jean it is quite different from the Quebec artist's view of him - and close to the sketch G.G. did.
Oh... that one looks just like one of the sketches taken in a hurry. I mean... if you are drawing a lot and try to improve your skills, you just carry your sketchbook with you, and take it out every chance you have to sit a bit and look for someone who sits still for a moment but never really came back to sit full half of an hour or an hour to finish the portrait properly.
I'm not an expert by any means but I draw a lot, two of my family members draw a lot, and I went to art school where I meet douzens of people who used to draw a lot... and if you were in possession of whole sketchbook you would be able to tell when that drawning was done.
Is there a perfectly finished autoportrait a page before? And face of a model of famous person two pages before? Then you might safely assume that those two were made in no hurry, at home, while exercising. And if later we have few pages of rough, unfinished portraits of different faces - likely there was an occasion to draw many new faces: like a party, a trip somewhere, evening in cafe.
Some artists are signing each sketch with a date, but even those who don't... if they have frequently used sketch book, that sketch book is form of a diary.
The Quebec artist says Jean I had a face coming out of the shadows but oddly he doesn't draw that whereas Reet and G.G. do. - the artist says he was almost moving very kinetic I guess, taking off. But it is said Reet met Jean at the post office in Toronto which again I am guessing might not be true. We really have a problem with people's memories the Detective Lou in L.A. says Jean I is like a ghost.
Memories might be spot on, but what they remember might not be true. Meeting at post office might happen, but it's also good excuse to say for someone who might be too judgemental about meeting someone while walking through the dark woods, or on the street.
Kinetic moves and face coming out the shadows... yeah, for me that sounds like he likely used at least weed on regular basis, and that he had to have a lot of girls mesmerised by that look. That kind of guy is always popular with the ladies, at least in the way that they can't stop looking at him. But that guy looks nothing like Jim Morrison.
For me it looks like a woman, I mean first sketch.
Second and third... I would say that guy had to be quite tall to look attractive with that kind of long face. Face shape changes drastically. Was there any mention of how tall he was?
And last sketch doesn't look like Jim Morrison. It is Jim Morrison.
Same hair, hairstyle, eyebrows, same bit droopy eyelids, same nose, same face shape, same mouth... WTF? That guy doesn't need any sketch, you could just walk around with Jim Morrison's picture to look for him.
No way that this is accurate. If it would be, they would say right from the beginning that LE has to look for Jim Morrison's twin.
Reet didn't appear to have a lot of friends? Your point about Estonians is possible L.A. had a Lithuanian house with lots of cultural events. That could be one place to ask around. Church? If Reet stopped going to her church in Montreal that would be no doubt worse than going to the beach lol.
You must be pretty much into church activities to be remembered by anyone in city church.
Probably can't go anywhere with this but just to note Haabe's father was a Hungarian exile, there is a Wiki article on him as he was a significant author at the time who had worked for Intelligence - Reet of course Estonian - Manson Family's major target Polanski's partner he was born in Poland of course. I don't know the Manson case well but think his rage was at the Hollywood elite after his record demo was turned down after being recommended by one of the Beach Boy's whose place he stayed at. I think on Mulholland Drive no? For those who know L.A. did not a lot of pop stars have houses on Mulholland? It might be fruitful as you suggested to look at Reet from her creative and career aspirations, rather than the dippy girl in search of this Jean - maybe she thought she could do something in Hollywood with her artistic talents or try acting lots of people have had that dream.
Manson's family didn't exactly targeted Sharon, he targeted that specific house and accepted them as suitable victims but his anger was not towards her specifically. That guy who was responsible for Manson's music career non-existence was living in that house before Polanski's did.
I was curious if that parking lot very near the place that bodies of Marina and Reet were found was there back in the 60's and if so, if it was kind of local lover's lane or not.
Might be that she tried to get a job in movie industry... but who would remember her after all these years? She would likely use some easier to pronounce name and surname and was one of many girls who came to LA and stay there for a bit...
You are right IF this P.I. really was hired as the family says (quite a bit later I need to find the date) you would think there would not be than many Jane Does of that age range AND L.A. police suspected she might be Canadian because of her clothing tags. Apart from her appearance they had her jewellery they could have sent pics of those to family and friends too.
So family doesn't hear from her. They are waiting for a bit but nothing happens so they ask her brother to go there and look for her.
Where could he went? He must check out that adress, maybe asked some neighbours but she wasn't there and Jeans weren't there either - otherwise we would have also other source of possible description.
He founds nothing but family doesn't give up. They send PI over there... and what happens? What he does? Nothing?
He didn't checked out Jane Does, but to do anything he had to check out that apartement and tried to figure out who was renting... how could he find "nothing" if he had basically only one lead to check? No meeting with the owner? No asking aroung? No chatting with neighbours? No conclusion like: "she wasn't living there", or "person who rented that wasn't living there, many people stayed over few nights" or "some guy/s were renting it but they are no longer there"?
How lousy a PI might be? Assuming that he existed, what could he did to find nothing? Thought that she must be renting in her own name, paying for whole apartment by herself, no Reet there, what a shame, so there is nothing else I can do?
He either never existed, scammed the family or was mislead by someone who knew Reet's fate imo. And wouldn't at least her brother knew better and, living in US be aware that their best bet would be to hire a PI from LA if they would figure that guy was uneffective or a scammer?
Lying about PI... possible, but if they had enough concern about their appearance, they wouldn't place that ad, ever, instead they would probably just stick with some story that she called them at some point to tell that she's not going back so they accepted their choice. Isn't that enough to keep people from judging them badly? When affluent people lie, they usually lie well, while this looks ridiculous, basically shows them in bad light... which makes me believe that's likely true: that they were indeed looking for her as they could and hired that PI... who brought them something, what led them to believe that she's ok but doesn't want to be found. And her siblings may be unaware of what exactly that PI told their parents... unless they were the one who hired him.
And... just like that four hours passed and I have to try to sleep.
