Bobbi the difference in your case is that LE actually took an interest in your video and wanted to review it promptly. For the Sherman tapes, from what we understand, TPS wasn’t so interested
CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #23
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I was thinking more about the Pampered Nomad, JS’s ex-boyfriend who had been funded and then cut off by Barry. In looking for his blog, I came across this link that looks like the a draft of his blog from its creation. It’s dated July 26, 2016. That date seems significant to me. Didn’t other stuff happen around then with him or generally in the timeline? Am I remembering correctly that it was earlier in July that Barry cut him off?
Here is a link if you are interested. The blog and concept behind Pampered Nomad, are about luxury travel and helping set people up with luxury travel experiences.
pamperednomad.wordpress.com
Here is a link if you are interested. The blog and concept behind Pampered Nomad, are about luxury travel and helping set people up with luxury travel experiences.
Pampered Nomad
pamperednomad.wordpress.com
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You may be correct but IMO the article tosses a couple of negative tid bits to a story for us readers to take rise over. I get the same impression with the 911 call and follow up check in report. They give us a couple of tid bits that leave us with tons of questions, more questions than necessary, to truly explain the LE checkin on that home, for me the articles lack more facts to be more acceptable as a 100% truth.
And I remind myself that we have no idea who LE spoke to or did not speak to, they will not correct the media reports, that would give us the actual facts if they did. If they did I do not see the media offering any updated new report, to finish the story they started with so few details, that would be boring
I often think these articles do not mention who the neighbour is, maybe this neighbour was 3 houses away and did not even see the Sherman driveway entrances in view, I see and read so few facts to be making such decisiveness on what we read in the media, the media are in business to sell stories, they need to make readers feel an emotional connection to the story and get a reaction. LE gather information and evidence for use in court, very different roles and responsibilities over a media report IMO.
You may be correct. I do not share many people’s faith that LE handled this investigation competently.
FWIW IIRC it has been reported multiple times that the neighbours in question with the camera lived directly across from the Sherman’s.
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I am not in total disagreement that LE did not miss things or not follow up in a timely matter. They are human and not perfect so this will happen.
Truly I try to not make judgements until I have facts. I have been in a situation where I blamed someone with flimsy hearsay “evidence” , I let my emotions rule the conversation. Really not a conversation I just formed judgment and ruined 8 peoples reputations. When I was proven wrong I felt brutal, could not repair damage done and lost over 15 friends on the fallout.
now when I read or hear something really anything work or personal, I try to do my best to put myself in “their” shoes and what emotional state the mind could be in at that same time that would have a person act or react in such a manner, before I open my mouth. Some of us have asked our children and or husband “What were you thinking” when you did that “odd“ thing?
I still have the quick excited thoughts that the reader had hoped I would infer, but then remind myself to reengineer it backwards to see if I have enough facts to confirm it as true. ( I notice many an article is long but they usually repeat themselves and say very little as facts, again story telling, setting a scene and I assume have legal boundaries to follow for the privacy of the public.)
All good, I tune in daily to read them and enjoy many, I am not in any way inferring that the articles are not a good read or enjoyable.
But I also consider that the bodies were found just about 2 days after the event, the first so important 48 hours that help solve a case were already passed and trails of any potential evidence are cold, LE do not have enough information to ask any potential witnesses what they saw, they now need time of death to know when to start asking questions about.Very hard starting point.
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I remember speaking to one of the police on site the night it happened. They were all uniformed patrol police and there job was to not let anyone near the crime scene, ambulances were on the street and close to 10 vehicles, police cars and suv.
We were told once detectives arrive and can access the scene they will come by for an interview. In our case it was the next day. But the detective said the video specialist would contact me for the video.
Bobbi, I maybe confused but the way you write, it sounds like you lived on Old Colony when the Sherman's lived there? Or are you describing another incident involving Police in a different location?
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Oh gosh no not in the gta, live out in urban sprawl. 3 stop lights is the entire down town of our area.
No Will existed for Honey, or lawyers would have disclosed that info a long time ago. IMO
re-post refresher
nationalpost.com
Tyler Dawson
Published Jun 15, 2021
''Honey Sherman left no will but her husband had two. The money they left behind, the estate documents say, is to be divided equally among the couple’s four children: Lauren, Jonathon, Alexandra and Kaelen.
However, the money is to be held in trust until the children reach age 25, when they will receive one-quarter of their inheritance, then one-third upon reaching age 30, the will says. They will receive the full portion at age 35, as an “annual income … for the maintenance, education, advancement in life and benefit of the specified beneficiary.”
''Upon their deaths, Barry Sherman held $67 million in personal property and $1.8 million in real estate. Honey Sherman had $45.9 million in personal property and $9.5 million in real estate, the documents say. This figure covered by the estate files, though, represents a fraction of their true wealth; Forbes estimates Barry Sherman was worth around $3 billion at the time of his death.''
Unsealed estate files reveal Barry and Honey Sherman's plans for their fortune
The identity of the person who made the initial request for the records to be kept secret was also revealed in the documents
Published Jun 15, 2021
''Honey Sherman left no will but her husband had two. The money they left behind, the estate documents say, is to be divided equally among the couple’s four children: Lauren, Jonathon, Alexandra and Kaelen.
However, the money is to be held in trust until the children reach age 25, when they will receive one-quarter of their inheritance, then one-third upon reaching age 30, the will says. They will receive the full portion at age 35, as an “annual income … for the maintenance, education, advancement in life and benefit of the specified beneficiary.”
''Upon their deaths, Barry Sherman held $67 million in personal property and $1.8 million in real estate. Honey Sherman had $45.9 million in personal property and $9.5 million in real estate, the documents say. This figure covered by the estate files, though, represents a fraction of their true wealth; Forbes estimates Barry Sherman was worth around $3 billion at the time of his death.''
Recent events would have broken their hearts, imo, speculation.
torontosun.com
2017
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''The couple was active members at Mount Sinai Hospital where they were donors.
In a statement, the hospital said they were “deeply saddened and shocked” to hear about their deaths.
“Barry and Honey Sherman’s commitment to community, unwavering philanthropic leadership and heartfelt commitment to making a difference in people’s lives was palpable in every interaction with them.”
“Their visible leadership in our hospital and foundation board of directors was infused with warmth, passion and a fierce intelligence. The impact of their generosity is felt in every area of the hospital.”
WARMINGTON: Pro-Hamas supporters surrounding Jewish hospital a hate crime
When you have a female Jewish doctor's car surrounded by Pro-Hamas protesters shouting “intifada,” it’s not a protest but a hate crime.
Pharma giant and philanthropists Barry and Honey Sherman found dead
Pharmaceutical giant Barry Sherman and his wife Honey Sherman were found dead in a home in Toronto’s York Mills neighbourhood on Friday afternoon, sources confirm.
In a statement, the hospital said they were “deeply saddened and shocked” to hear about their deaths.
“Barry and Honey Sherman’s commitment to community, unwavering philanthropic leadership and heartfelt commitment to making a difference in people’s lives was palpable in every interaction with them.”
“Their visible leadership in our hospital and foundation board of directors was infused with warmth, passion and a fierce intelligence. The impact of their generosity is felt in every area of the hospital.”
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Recent events would have broken their hearts, imo, speculation.
2017WARMINGTON: Pro-Hamas supporters surrounding Jewish hospital a hate crime
When you have a female Jewish doctor's car surrounded by Pro-Hamas protesters shouting “intifada,” it’s not a protest but a hate crime.
''The couple was active members at Mount Sinai Hospital where they were donors.Pharma giant and philanthropists Barry and Honey Sherman found dead
Pharmaceutical giant Barry Sherman and his wife Honey Sherman were found dead in a home in Toronto’s York Mills neighbourhood on Friday afternoon, sources confirm.
In a statement, the hospital said they were “deeply saddened and shocked” to hear about their deaths.
“Barry and Honey Sherman’s commitment to community, unwavering philanthropic leadership and heartfelt commitment to making a difference in people’s lives was palpable in every interaction with them.”
“Their visible leadership in our hospital and foundation board of directors was infused with warmth, passion and a fierce intelligence. The impact of their generosity is felt in every area of the hospital.”
I think based on MS’s court activity Honey and Barry may have been updating something with either the 2016 trust and/or Barry’s main will, imo. She seems to be digging there.
@Lexiintoronto have you reviewed any of the court materials or are you inferring based on the named respondents?
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Just based on her actions and the filing. I think she wants the $300M plus Honey’s items. KD said he believes Mary is behind the December 13th filing (Ann Brocklehurst posted the court documents here).
I believe she is leveraging some information she may have about the trust, imo.
Nothing new, but this popped up today, fwiw, rbbm.
en.wikipedia.org
Robert Seiden - Wikipedia
- ''This page was last edited on 19 February 2024, at 09:45 (UTC).''
- ''Robert W. Seiden is an American former prosecutor, lawyer, global investigator, court-appointed receiver, integrity monitor and founder of Seiden Law LLP, a litigation and sanctions-focused law firm. Seiden also serves on the board of advisors of a private clean energy company, GreenMet after stepping down as chairman.[1] He has been dubbed a "Wall Street Bounty Hunter" by The New York Times and profiled by The Wall Street Journal and Institutional Investor for his prosecution on behalf of investors against Chinese companies that went dark taking hundreds of millions of dollars from US and foreign investors, including China Sun Group High Tech, China Valves Technology, Sino Clean Energy[2] and Shengtai Pharmaceutical Inc.[3] Seiden filed the first lawsuit ever against Binance, a cryptocurrency exchange, for aiding terrorism in a landmark case in Manhattan federal court that accuses Binance, its CEO Changpeng Zhao, as well as Iran and Syria in relation to the attack by Hamas on U.S. citizens in Israel on October 7, 2023.[4][5][6]''
- ''He represents the Sherman family in the investigation into the double murder case of Canadian billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman in Toronto[8] and previously served as the initial prosecutor in People v. Edmund Ko involving the murder of a Columbia University law student by her ex-boyfriend, who was convicted using an "ear witness" and the results of mitochondrial DNA typing.[9]''
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Law and Order Toronto premieres this week on Thursday. "With stories ripped from Canadian headlines..." makes me immediately think of this case. I wonder if they'll touch on it.
Jan 18, 2024 rbbm #LawandOrderSVU #LawandOrder #Toronto
'With stories ripped from Canadian headlines, the next installment of the iconic #LawandOrder franchise begins Thursday February 22 at 8/7c on Citytv or stream it on Citytv+'
Is he JS's lawyer or LS's, AK's, KS's lawyer?Nothing new, but this popped up today, fwiw, rbbm.
Robert Seiden - Wikipedia
- ''This page was last edited on 19 February 2024, at 09:45 (UTC).''
- ''Robert W. Seiden is an American former prosecutor, lawyer, global investigator, court-appointed receiver, integrity monitor and founder of Seiden Law LLP, a litigation and sanctions-focused law firm. Seiden also serves on the board of advisors of a private clean energy company, GreenMet after stepping down as chairman.[1] He has been dubbed a "Wall Street Bounty Hunter" by The New York Times and profiled by The Wall Street Journal and Institutional Investor for his prosecution on behalf of investors against Chinese companies that went dark taking hundreds of millions of dollars from US and foreign investors, including China Sun Group High Tech, China Valves Technology, Sino Clean Energy[2] and Shengtai Pharmaceutical Inc.[3] Seiden filed the first lawsuit ever against Binance, a cryptocurrency exchange, for aiding terrorism in a landmark case in Manhattan federal court that accuses Binance, its CEO Changpeng Zhao, as well as Iran and Syria in relation to the attack by Hamas on U.S. citizens in Israel on October 7, 2023.[4][5][6]''
- ''He represents the Sherman family in the investigation into the double murder case of Canadian billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman in Toronto[8] and previously served as the initial prosecutor in People v. Edmund Ko involving the murder of a Columbia University law student by her ex-boyfriend, who was convicted using an "ear witness" and the results of mitochondrial DNA typing.[9]''
March 2023 rbbm
Barry Sherman’s son says his father asked him to repay tens of millions of dollars, two weeks before murders, but Barry was ‘all in’ with son’s business
The road into Jonathon Sherman’s 100-acre compound winds through a forest. A yellow smiley face tacked to a tree warns visitors that cameras are watching.
As part of his investigation team, Seiden has hired a former Toronto police homicide detective who has “good” relations with the Toronto force, Jonathon told me.
When Jonathon gets information, he says, he passes it on to the police. Recently, the lead detective on the Sherman case, Det. Sgt. Brandon Price, visited Jonathon to personally receive a package of information he said he has uncovered.''
Interesting to me that Jonathon is so active in the pursuit of the killers. He was instrumental in hiring Greenspan and the initial team of private detectives, then he increased the reward to $35 million, and hired Seiden and Confidential Global Investigations.
Questions I have.
Does Jonathon or one of surrogates monitors this forum?
Why was the Greenspan team was terminated?
Why was Seiden team then hired?
Is Seiden still involved in this case?
Does Jonathon have confidence in the TPS?
Who does Jonathon suspect, especially based on info he has received from Greenspan and Seiden?
Questions I have.
Does Jonathon or one of surrogates monitors this forum?
Why was the Greenspan team was terminated?
Why was Seiden team then hired?
Is Seiden still involved in this case?
Does Jonathon have confidence in the TPS?
Who does Jonathon suspect, especially based on info he has received from Greenspan and Seiden?