CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #48 *ARREST*

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I kind of have a mixed opinion. He may have said to KB help me do chores, that will make ma happy, let me talk to her and see if she will "let" you come for dinner and if not, I will spend the day with you and baby and I will take you out for dinner. Or, it may just have been a plan for the 3 of them and KB as you said getting into the holiday spirit at her own house. I also think possibly he played that game to KB but had no intention of asking ma because he had fed the bs about KB to ma of how bad she was... There are so many lies in this case I am a bit undecided on this part... I could see it either way or him telling her one thing and others another which was his way in life...
Yes, or maybe he suggested they eat in, that he loved her cooking, and they could have a quiet Thanksgiving with just the three of them. I could just hear him saying, "I love that sweet potato pie you make." Imo

Edited to add, I think it was casserole.
 
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If I were the Berreths, I'd be happy just to win the lawsuit. And any future earnings would be a plus. Anything to clear my daughter's name/memory.
I took the Ancestry DNA test several years ago. There is not a sibling test as such. You spit in a tube and send it in. They analyze your DNA and match it to everyone else who has similar DNA that had also taken their DNA test. To match a sibling, those siblings will have to have taken the test. The test gives you the number of matching centromeres over a certain number of chromosomes. It will also say "extremely high" in regards to a high number of centromeres and will suggest that this could be a sibling.
 
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Yes, or maybe he suggested they eat in, that he loved her cooking, and they could have a quiet Thanksgiving with just the three of them. I could just hear him saying, "I love that sweet potato pie you make." Imo

I can too. I believe she told her mother that she was making the dip in case plans had to change. They were going out to dinner but he often got called away because of his cattle etc. Man, she put up with a lot from this creep who never appreciated it...
 
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Not sure how it is in CO, I have tried searching and found nothing, except where PF's sister petitioned the court to release the estate, I believe it must be held at this point. Not sure though. Here in Ohio you must pay to get death records.
Could it be that PF was/is the executor of the estate which would explain why he would have checks in the name of the estate.
Maybe he hasn't filed the final paperwork to have funds released
to other siblings. I've seen an executor take 5 plus years to settle
an estate and during that time, they can write checks on the
estate bank account and take money also to pay for their time.
Otherwise why would the sister be petitioning the court. PF
must be holding up the dispersement of funds. hmmm.
would possibly cause 'estrangement' between the siblings.
 
...RSBM...

BTW- did anyone else notice the dark bruising on baby K's leg
in that pic of PF and the 2 old men? moo.
I see dirt. It's a rodeo. Proud Papa PF holding his baby.

BTW where are the photos of KB doing things with baby K? CB has only released the birth 3-some photo, the staged portrait photos of herself with KB and baby K from October 2018, and the one of CB holding the baby on the plane wing. It's just odd that a new first-time Mom like KB didn't take tons of photos of the baby and herself doing things. I suppose CB controls what gets released?
 
I read that as well. It sounds like a good place for a property record search/register of deeds, etc. It is about PF, his life and where he lived, who with, etc.

Just did a property search, not being familiar with Teller county website I'm having trouble finding a sales history on the property, Hope someone else can figure it out!

Edit/add I did find a transfer 3/31/1999 but it doesn't state from who. Only shows SF
 
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Was the sister's petition in the court records? Yet it was not connected to a probate case? Or was?


I can too. I believe she told her mother that she was making the dip in case plans had to change. They were going out to dinner but he often got called away because of his cattle etc. Man, she put up with a lot from this creep who never appreciated it...

I believe it was connected to Probate but not mentioned in PF's case. This was around the time they were trying to get custody of the baby.
 
OMG I didn't know the father passed Aug. 2018, that's the date of
the article about the drowning that I can't discuss again. I haven't
found an Obituary either. I think there is a construction co. in
Col. Spgs. w/ same last name.

Funny, I saw your post clicked on it and never watched it but left it up in the background to watch later, it's still there so I watched it. It's dated Mid September and my understanding is RF passed toward the beginning of August.
 
The Cripple Creek Donkeys -14 of them, are managed, fed and
overseen by a Volunteer group called The Two Mile Club.
Apparently the donkeys are distant relatives of the donkeys
used in the mines many years back.
Today they're allowed to roam free during warm months and penned in the winter.
CC is an old, historic mining town that was mostly a ghost town
til gambling was approved and all the casinos moved in.
Cripple Creek Donkeys ⋆ Cripple Creek Today

And their sole claim to fame is the birthplace of Lowell Thomas. Now I'm dating myself.
 
Concerning the DNA kit from Ancestry, Does Ancestry do sibling dna tests? Some people want to know if they are full siblings or half. Could PF have spoke to KB about it and she got the test for him to verify?
If PF had wanted to do that, it would be quicker to do a DNA test with his sibling. An Ancestry test would have to be taken by both people, just like a DNA test. If you,lindaromas, buy an ancestry test today and send it in you would receive results in about 3 weeks to 6 weeks depending on how busy they are. Mine took 8 weeks. It will give you a breakdown of your ethnicity, for instance it might say you are 28% French, 32% Japanese and some small amount of Russian. Then it will give you a list of people that are related to your DNA profile. It will start with those most closely related and then fan out. My daughter, who also took the test, came up as a sister/daughter or possible mother in relation to me. It shows generational DNA, but you have to establish the link. If a sibling took the test it would only show that they are siblings, but wouldn't determine if they had the same father. My daughter and her cousin who also took the test came up as possible siblings/1st cousins. We know they are first cousins, but the test itself isn't that accurate because it isn't testing against other knowns.
In contrast, a DNA test would test familial relations as well as unknowns, such as parentage. If PF wanted to know if he was a full sibling to other siblings an ancestry test wouldn't test for that, he'd need a traditional DNA test that would gather the maternal and paternal information for each sibling and then test the similarities of those matches. While Ancestry can show familial relations, it isn't decisive or accurate enough to determine if someone is your parent, sibling, grandmother, etc.
 
I may have to rewatch it. Who said #4? I caught the rest but do not recall that.
It's at about the 37:14 minute mark. The Dateline reporter (sorry, IDK her name) says according to the court transcript, KK said that she watched PF fill the tote with oil and gasoline and set fire to Kelsey's body along with the baseball bat and then disposed of the ashes, possibly in a landfill.
 
If PF had wanted to do that, it would be quicker to do a DNA test with his sibling. An Ancestry test would have to be taken by both people, just like a DNA test. If you,lindaromas, buy an ancestry test today and send it in you would receive results in about 3 weeks to 6 weeks depending on how busy they are. Mine took 8 weeks. It will give you a breakdown of your ethnicity, for instance it might say you are 28% French, 32% Japanese and some small amount of Russian. Then it will give you a list of people that are related to your DNA profile. It will start with those most closely related and then fan out. My daughter, who also took the test, came up as a sister/daughter or possible mother in relation to me. It shows generational DNA, but you have to establish the link. If a sibling took the test it would only show that they are siblings, but wouldn't determine if they had the same father. My daughter and her cousin who also took the test came up as possible siblings/1st cousins. We know they are first cousins, but the test itself isn't that accurate because it isn't testing against other knowns.
In contrast, a DNA test would test familial relations as well as unknowns, such as parentage. If PF wanted to know if he was a full sibling to other siblings an ancestry test wouldn't test for that, he'd need a traditional DNA test that would gather the maternal and paternal information for each sibling and then test the similarities of those matches. While Ancestry can show familial relations, it isn't decisive or accurate enough to determine if someone is your parent, sibling, grandmother, etc.

Great info thank you Mom24!
 
I see dirt. It's a rodeo. Proud Papa PF holding his baby.

BTW where are the photos of KB doing things with baby K? CB has only released the birth 3-some photo, the staged portrait photos of herself with KB and baby K from October 2018, and the one of CB holding the baby on the plane wing. It's just odd that a new first-time Mom like KB didn't take tons of photos of the baby and herself doing things. I suppose CB controls what gets released?

Where are any with ma F who allegedly had her or saw her so much of the time? Where are any of PF with baby at a park? Just saying...

KB's family strike me as private, as did she, but doing what has needed to be done to get her daughter's absence looked into. Not a media *advertiser censored*. There is also a family of an accused murderer after this child. I would publish nothing with regard to the child either.

jmo.
 
Did KK work the day before TG? I'm thinking about her staying up to help him with the cattle, basically all night. They must have had the baby with them, although that makes no sense to me. I wonder if she was with SF until KB took PF the stomach meds and KB picked her up then. In any case, KB had the baby with her at Safeway and up until PF killed KB and took the baby. No wonder KB suffered with exhaustion and anxiety.
 
It's at about the 37:14 minute mark. The Dateline reporter (sorry, IDK her name) says according to the court transcript, KK said that she watched PF fill the tote with oil and gasoline and set fire to Kelsey's body along with the baseball bat and then disposed of the ashes, possibly in a landfill.

Thank you. That is a great point. I have always felt she stresses too much too often that she never saw KB's body at any time, at any point.
 
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