.........40 quarters is a LOT to be laying around , in one spot, or here and there....ewwwinteresting said:
lauriej said:
Hi Samurai! I think that your ideas about the coins are great. I am intrigued by the idea that it could have been a roll of quarters that slipped out quietly. If there was a change of clothes and perhaps a bag kept next to the creek, the perp could have gone to the creek to clean up, put the dirty clothes in the bag, and then move on. If this person is grabbing a bag of clothes, a jacket, and trying to get away without being seen, I can definitely see him or her not noticing the missing weight. And if there was a murder weapon being carried away in a bag, as well as any stolen items like computers, etc., it doesn't seem at all unreasonable to think that the quarters would not be missed. In fact, the juggling all of these items, and it being a roll of quarters is the only thing that seems to make any sense to me.Samurai said:
My :twocents: are on this scenario.Samurai said:
Depending on the locations and severity of the stab wounds, it could be that someone attempted to stab her at the door, whereas she put her hand over the initial wound, and ran to escape her attacker. If the initial wound at the door wasn't too severe, she could have possibly made it upstairs without dripping blood. The only thing that I don't understand if this scenario is true is why she would have run upstairs rather than out the front door to scream for help or something. I could see if she was trying to grab the baby to get away but if an attacker was in pursuit, I wouldn't think that she would bring the attacker closer to where the baby was. Of course, in a panic she could have but she wasn't found in the hallway or in the baby's room as far as I can tell. She was found in the bedroom that was referred to in the search warrant as an "office".Samurai said:
I'm as sure as I can be that LE wouldn't estimate when collecting evidence. And it is extremely unlikely that the exact amount of spilled change would come out to that amount, (although possible - or perhaps whomever dropped it only had ten dollars in total). And as I've stated before, if ten dollars worth of change had fallen out of your pocket in loose coins, you'd have to have heard it, wouldn't you? Maybe the person did hear it but didn't have the time to collect it, and figured that it wasn't a "smoking gun" type of thing so just left it. Or it could have been planted there - but why? and by whom?Samurai said:
JerseyGirl said:
You mean in Raven's own words? I also don't understand why we haven't heard anything from anyone. But it could be that Raven is too distraught to talk to the media. We've heard that he was so distraught when speaking to Janet's family that they couldn't understand what he was saying.Samurai said:
Just a thought...was she trying to get to a phone? My bedroom also serves as my office (i.e., I have my computer and accessories, my desk, my phone...) if I were in trouble and lived in a more secluded neighborhood (which I thought their house was a bit off the road, right? or am I just midreading posts?), I'd go straight to the telephone...and it may be that the only phone they had, including cell phone was in their bedroom.JerseyGirl said:
IMO, there's absolutely no way that that is an approximated value. It was collected as possible evidence, after all. I'm sure that it's the correct amount. But I would think that if it was a roll of quarters, they would have listed it as such. (?)golfmom said:
JerseyGirl said:
That's a good point. I don't think that their neighborhood was all that secluded - I think that someone would have heard her scream if she had gone out front. And it was before 11 P.M. so there's a good likelihood that people would still have been awake somewhere.anneshirley said:
JerseyGirl said:
If it were a roll of quarters, I really think that they would have listed it that way. The word currency is so basic - it could mean any kind of currency. So all we know is that it was ten dollars worth of "silver" currency. Is it possible that it's actual silver? A ten-dollar coin? I don't collect coins so I don't know if there is such a thing but could there have been a coin collection or something in the house that was stolen, and this ten dollar piece fell out during the escape? Perhaps the attack happened because Janet heard something, assumed it was Raven, and walked into a robbery in progress in another part of the house, (although if I were a robber, I'd wait until later at night - but then again, the man of the house wasn't home - that probably would present less of a struggle if s/he were to be caught in the act). If Raven's soccer nights were on the same day every week, this person could have scoped out their house before-hand.golfmom said:
From photos on Raven's website (and they may not necessarily be in their neighborhood) it looks like the house isn't terribly close to people. Which is why, I think she may have gone to a place where she could get help..golfmom said:
