findinganatta
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Here is something I'd like to have some feedback on... it's one of the basic facts of the case, but I'd like to hear if anyone disagrees with my take on it, or if I'm getting any of these facts wrong...
Yesterday was the first time I remember reading for certain that the water tank lids are hinged. I knew people said they were, but I had seen pictures of the tank without its lid (which I now presume was removed from the tank by the firefighters), so I wasn't positive. And I had a tendency to believe very few of the little facts people espoused, especially early on, because so many were false. So it was only yesterday when I happened to come upon police quotes that confirmed the hinge thing. Then I went and looked at pictures and realized you could make out the hinges on the other tanks if you look at close up shots.
Anyway, the reason I bring this up is because to me the closed lid was one of single biggest pieces of info the public has to help determine the likelihood of EL getting inside the tank herself versus being put in by someone else. When I was under the impression the lids were not hinged, it was very difficult to imagine it would be closed from inside, especially if you're in water. That was the single biggest thing that kept me on the fence about whether it was even possible she got in herself.
However, now the whole conflict between the possibility of her getting in herself and the lid being closed doesn't seem like much of a conflict at all. It becomes much easier to accept that someone could climb in without opening the lid all the way, and then letting it or having it slam closed behind them.
Regarding the idea of whether she would have wanted to close the lid behind her--which was another contentious aspect when people were theorizing about her climbing in--I personally feel that if someone was getting into a water cistern in the first place, they definitely aren't using normal logic. So in the context of that theory, their decisions are pretty much rendered non-factors in determining the likelihood of something like leaving the lid open or closed.
I'm bringing this up because it seemed to be one of the biggest points of contention regarding the possibility of her climbing in, but now I don't really see why that ever was (unless other people were also working off the idea that there weren't hinges).
The other major factor that was a problem for me with the climbing-in theory was her lack of clothes. Well, not so much the fact that she wasn't wearing clothes--anyone can remove their own clothes. It's more the issue of where the clothes are. But I've come to realize that the police have never said they didn't find them... or at least I've never read/heard them say that. There was a barrage of information in the beginning, much of it misinformation, so I've had to go back and sort of sort things out for myself. And while I've not necessarily cleared it all up yet, I'm pretty sure the clothes thing has never been outright verified, and I can imagine reasons why they might keep it secret even if they did find them somewhere... for instance, to help weed out any false confessions, or even to cover their own asses if they were found somewhere that was obvious enough that they should have been found earlier.
Yesterday was the first time I remember reading for certain that the water tank lids are hinged. I knew people said they were, but I had seen pictures of the tank without its lid (which I now presume was removed from the tank by the firefighters), so I wasn't positive. And I had a tendency to believe very few of the little facts people espoused, especially early on, because so many were false. So it was only yesterday when I happened to come upon police quotes that confirmed the hinge thing. Then I went and looked at pictures and realized you could make out the hinges on the other tanks if you look at close up shots.
Anyway, the reason I bring this up is because to me the closed lid was one of single biggest pieces of info the public has to help determine the likelihood of EL getting inside the tank herself versus being put in by someone else. When I was under the impression the lids were not hinged, it was very difficult to imagine it would be closed from inside, especially if you're in water. That was the single biggest thing that kept me on the fence about whether it was even possible she got in herself.
However, now the whole conflict between the possibility of her getting in herself and the lid being closed doesn't seem like much of a conflict at all. It becomes much easier to accept that someone could climb in without opening the lid all the way, and then letting it or having it slam closed behind them.
Regarding the idea of whether she would have wanted to close the lid behind her--which was another contentious aspect when people were theorizing about her climbing in--I personally feel that if someone was getting into a water cistern in the first place, they definitely aren't using normal logic. So in the context of that theory, their decisions are pretty much rendered non-factors in determining the likelihood of something like leaving the lid open or closed.
I'm bringing this up because it seemed to be one of the biggest points of contention regarding the possibility of her climbing in, but now I don't really see why that ever was (unless other people were also working off the idea that there weren't hinges).
The other major factor that was a problem for me with the climbing-in theory was her lack of clothes. Well, not so much the fact that she wasn't wearing clothes--anyone can remove their own clothes. It's more the issue of where the clothes are. But I've come to realize that the police have never said they didn't find them... or at least I've never read/heard them say that. There was a barrage of information in the beginning, much of it misinformation, so I've had to go back and sort of sort things out for myself. And while I've not necessarily cleared it all up yet, I'm pretty sure the clothes thing has never been outright verified, and I can imagine reasons why they might keep it secret even if they did find them somewhere... for instance, to help weed out any false confessions, or even to cover their own asses if they were found somewhere that was obvious enough that they should have been found earlier.