IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #103

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  1. x_files

    x_files Well-Known Member

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    He might NOT have close, true friends, that really know him but I do think he blends into the Delphi community. He wears a mask for society. Might be squeaky clean choir boy type.
    I would hope that parents/family won't cover for him, but who knows...trying to guess why no one has id' ed him yet.
     
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  2. bradfordsleuth

    bradfordsleuth Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for re-posting this link.

    This is one link I never mind reading again and again!

    To think that a 14 year-old had the foresight to record this guy blows my mind every time I think of it.

    She will forever be one of my personal heros!

    JMO
     
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  3. bradfordsleuth

    bradfordsleuth Well-Known Member

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    I have always thought that Libby hid her phone in her shoe or possibly her sock at the time the shoe came off.

    JMO (Edited to add this in)
     
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  4. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    I think she just put it in her pocket.

    It makes the most sense, as he apparently never saw her phone.

    It also explains the quality of the audio, and that extraneous background noise.
     
  5. janesmith787

    janesmith787 Well-Known Member

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    I feel like LEO are da*ned if they do, and da*ned if they don’t. Can only imagine what it’s like for those who know WAYYYYYYY more than we do, or maybe ever will. As I’ve said before, if I were the victim, I’d want them on my side searching for this creep. I don’t think they see this as a “game,” and reality isn’t tv. I rather them take the necessary time to get an airtight case...rather than details get out and the wrong person be taken to trial. JMO

    Eta: spelling
     
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    My niece calls them Dewey (DUI).
     
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  7. bradfordsleuth

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    I also believe it went into her pocket as the crime started...but I think she left it in her sock or shoe near the end so it would be found by someone later on.

    That kid sure was smart!

    JMO
     
  8. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Recording him was smart enough, she didn’t need to do anything else to be a hero here.

    Everyone is talking a lot about shoes today. Have we had confirmation that one of the girls was missing shoes?
     
  9. Mind your biscuits

    Mind your biscuits Well-Known Member

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    BP said that Libby had no pockets. She did have a jacket, but Abbey was wearing it on the bridge photo. They could have shared the jacket though.
     
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    I think it could be as simple as—they were lying face down, or faces covered in some way. The situation is still terrible, but no need torturing ourselves by imagining it worse than it might be.
     
  11. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    The impatience and anticipation we have waiting for an arrest is nothing compared to the anxiety the locals must be experiencing! Every man is probably given a double/triple look over, and every mother must be keeping her children on a modified play area.

    The energy required for this persistent vigilance and "alert" status must be exhausting.

    Prayers for an arrest!
    Amateur opinion and speculation
     
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    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    I'm always afraid that by speculating too much on here (as far as what he did to them) it could affect any families or friends who might find their way over here.
     
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    Krwiley60 Well-Known Member

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    No, not once. LE wants the public to help identify this guy and why on earth would they want to hinder us? The confusion and distrust of LE with this type of deception would be unforgivable.
     
  14. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    Thank you! Grisly speculation, while well intended, does nothing more than further traumatize any loved ones of the girls that may be monitoring this thread.

    Amateur opinion and speculation
     
  15. BigTexas

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    I am thinking she may have put it in her bra/sports bra. Just MOO.
     
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    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    I just posted the same thing simultaneously. *Thank you*
    Grisly speculation has no place here. It can be very traumatizing, especially to the family and loved ones.

    Amateur opinion and speculation
     
  17. bradfordsleuth

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    @MassGuy I didn't mean to imply that she had needed to do more. I apologize if that is how my post came across.

    I have nothing but admiration for Libby and would not want to take away from anything she did!

    Something mentioned in the past has always had that thought stuck in my mind about the shoe being found away from the girls.

    I cannot open this link as I have exceeded my limit but this is from another thread where its quoted about the shoes but does not indicate if the shoe was found separate in what has been quoted.

    "......Kelsi recalled the searchers yelled up the hill to her from the murder scene, asking if she knew what the girls were wearing. Kelsi yelled back the color of Libby's shoes.

    "We found them," Kelsi recalled them yelling to her.

    But she wasn't allowed to go to the girls. Neither were Libby's grandparents, Mike and Becky Patty, with whom she lived, or Williams' mother....."
    http://www.jconline.com/story/news/...-tips-catch-libby-and-abbys-killer/949182001/

    JMO
     
  18. Mind your biscuits

    Mind your biscuits Well-Known Member

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    You could be right. I've been butt dialed but never Bra dialed so I wouldn't know what that sounds like! Moo
     
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    Yes I think you are.
     
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  20. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Haaa. I didn’t mean to imply that you were implying that the girls could have done more.

    My point was that capturing him on audio and video, shows how smart they were. Doing something sneaky with the phone, wasn’t necessary.

    As for the shoes. That’s subjective I suppose. I’m not reading anything into the question about what color the shoes were.

    I’m of the opinion that they were on their feet, and not lying separately.
     
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