Found Deceased Malaysia - Nora Quoirin, 15, from UK, special needs, missing on vacation, Seremban, 4 Aug 2019 #5

[Morag]

They are incompatible: For a missing person you want hundreds of local people looking all over. But hundreds of local people looking all over are also going to destroy evidence of any crime. So if you want to treat it as a crime you only have trained law enforcement people doing the search.

True. But if you have a child missing, it is more important to look for and find her than to preserve evidence for a potential future arrest or prosecution.

 

[tresir2012]

True. But if you have a child missing, it is more important to look for and find her than to preserve evidence for a potential future arrest or prosecution.

Agree. But it can be a problem. In the Delphi, Indiana case, the search for two teens had hundreds of searchers ( the Superintendent of LE has recently said 1000 searchers) compromise the scene as it was a double murder case in the end.

 

[Angleterre]

Agree. But it can be a problem. In the Delphi, Indiana case, the search for two teens had hundreds of searchers ( the Superintendent of LE has recently said 1000 searchers) compromise the scene as it was a double murder case in the end.

There is a fine line to be taken between the two and a balanced approach to be made and it is down to the S IO in charge of the investigation to make this decision and document it.

 

[Chiatos]

The family have stopped the fund and put a statement on it today.
Against WS TOS to link to it. The donations have helped them to employ extra assistance and expert help also money will be donated to LBT to help launch operations for Irish Citizens in Nora's memory.

ETA the Euro fund have also added a statement in French it is currently still active.

Could you place a link to that French statement? If not allowed by WS, could you send it to me? Thanks in advance!

 

[MrJames]

Within the month N has gone missing then been found dead having died in tragic circumstances. The news media appear to have gone quiet for the time being in my personal opinion. What is happening with this case and where is it going?

 

[Ruthbullock]

Within the month N has gone missing then been found dead having died in tragic circumstances. The news media appear to have gone quiet for the time being in my personal opinion. What is happening with this case and where is it going?

My assumption is ATM, it has been accepted as a tragic accident, unless something else is discovered.

 

[MsBetsy]

Within the month N has gone missing then been found dead having died in tragic circumstances. The news media appear to have gone quiet for the time being in my personal opinion. What is happening with this case and where is it going?

I don't think we will here much news until the final autopsy report is complete.
At that point it will depend on whether or not there is evidence of a crime.
If not, I would hope they make some sort of statement indicating the status of the investigation, and whether it not they are going to close the case.
Just because we have not heard anything does not mean they are no longer investigating. Imo

 

[Crazy Mama]

I don’t have more than a few hours a day without thinking of what Nora went through and how confused and abandoned she must have felt. In her mind she would have thought that her mother knew where she was. Sometimes I wonder if she fell down a hole or similar and got stuck for a few days. So many questions. That family have suffered so much. imagine, her kids will never be able to say “Mom, I’m starving”
Or “Mom, I don’t like this dinner” without feeling guilt. It is just so dreadful, I really cannot fathom how they will move forward.

 

[Sera]

I don’t have more than a few hours a day without thinking of what Nora went through and how confused and abandoned she must have felt. In her mind she would have thought that her mother knew where she was. Sometimes I wonder if she fell down a hole or similar and got stuck for a few days. So many questions. That family have suffered so much. imagine, her kids will never be able to say “Mom, I’m starving”
Or “Mom, I don’t like this dinner” without feeling guilt. It is just so dreadful, I really cannot fathom how they will move forward.

RBBM

Oh my goodness... I hadn't even thought about this. It's made me feel really, really sad; you know at some point they're going to say it without thinking Poor family. Poor Nora Honestly I hope the lack of updates is simply because they've accepted the results of the PM or possibly had another one done which confirms the findings of the first and they've laid her to rest and that's that, as awful as it sounds. I haven't even been able to walk my dog in the woods without thinking of Nora.

 

[cocomisty]

Article from today ~

Her clothes have still not been found. The Irish and French police have said they are satisfied with the work of the local pathology.

Police chief Yusop said: “There is no request from Ireland to do a second post-mortem. In fact, the liaison police officer from France was “very’ satisfied with the pathologist’s work.”

The family of a 15-year-old Nora prepare to bring her home

 

[bronbaby]

Article from today ~

Her clothes have still not been found. The Irish and French police have said they are satisfied with the work of the local pathology.

Police chief Yusop said: “There is no request from Ireland to do a second post-mortem. In fact, the liaison police officer from France was “very’ satisfied with the pathologist’s work.”

The family of a 15-year-old Nora prepare to bring her home

I wonder what about the British

 

[Ruthbullock]

I wonder what about the British

Don’t think it has much to do with them as she was travelling on an Irish passport (mums side) and dad is french- both had representatives at the post-mortem.

 

[bronbaby]

Don’t think it has much to do with them as she was travelling on an Irish passport (mums side) and dad is french- both had representatives at the post-mortem.

ah right, thank you, just as they reside in London and Meabh is permitted dual nationality, I thought they may avail of assistance from the British.

 

[Ruthbullock]

ah right, thank you, just as they reside in London and Meabh is permitted dual nationality, I thought they may avail of assistance from the British.

Her dual nationality will be Irish and french I would think, as that’s the nationality of her parents, also based on the fact french and Irish consulates were involved in various news articles.
Nora Quoirin: parents of missing girl thank Malaysian search teams Refers to them here as Irish french nationality

 

[Lilibet]

Her dual nationality will be Irish and french I would think, as that’s the nationality of her parents, also based on the fact french and Irish consulates were involved in various news articles.
Nora Quoirin: parents of missing girl thank Malaysian search teams Refers to them here as Irish french nationality

I agree that it’s citizenship that makes the difference, not where you live. In the case of Jenny Chen, missing in Mexico, even though she was living in Seattle, married to an American and had a green card (permanent resident), the U.S. government wouldn’t get involved because she was a Chinese citizen. The Chinese government and her husband tried, but she has never been found. So in Nora’s case, the protocol would be that the Irish and French governments were her advocates, not the British.
Mexico - Mexico - Jenny Chen, 26, Oaxaca, 11 April 2016 #1

 

[MrJames]

Nora Quoirin’s family ask for privacy as preparations for tragic teen's funeral begin | The Irish Post

 

[bronbaby]

Her dual nationality will be Irish and french I would think, as that’s the nationality of her parents, also based on the fact french and Irish consulates were involved in various news articles.
Nora Quoirin: parents of missing girl thank Malaysian search teams Refers to them here as Irish french nationality

the dual Nationality i was referring to was the mother's. thank you for clarifying

 

[Alyce]

Not that it matters particularly, but just because I find it interesting.

Maebh is from Belfast.

Nationality and citizenship
Northern Ireland is part of the UK. However, under the Belfast Agreement, people born in Northern Ireland can choose to be British citizens, Irish citizens or both.

 

[Chiatos]

Article from today ~

Her clothes have still not been found. The Irish and French police have said they are satisfied with the work of the local pathology.

Police chief Yusop said: “There is no request from Ireland to do a second post-mortem. In fact, the liaison police officer from France was “very’ satisfied with the pathologist’s work.”

The family of a 15-year-old Nora prepare to bring her home

So the family is still in Malaysia.
And the clothes are still missing.

 

[Skigh]

So the family is still in Malaysia.
And the clothes are still missing.

the clothes are missing,but the family and Nora are home.