Mark Sievers Trial General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Dr. Teresa Sievers' started by Oregonmama, Nov 21, 2019.

  1. FelicityLemon

    FelicityLemon Well-Known Member

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    I've always thought it was supposed to look like a robbery gone bad, but the murderers messed that up by not taking any of the huge amount of cash or multiple guns that were laying around in the home office. I can understand CWW and JRR not taking the guns, but it doesn't make sense to NOT take the cash. Any random burglar or professional thief would have taken the cash, easy electronics, weapons.

    And MS tips his hand by asking Dr.P if it looked like a robbery... hmm. Why didn't he assume that TS had had an accident? Wasn't it mentioned years ago, that Dr. P had a brief thought that she may have been trying to hang a picture or something and fell? He quickly ruled that out, but it was a first thought. MS just assumed she was murdered. another ...hmm goes here...
     


  2. FelicityLemon

    FelicityLemon Well-Known Member

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    I've always thought it was supposed to look like a robbery gone bad, but the murderers messed that up by not taking any of the huge amount of cash or multiple guns that were laying around in the home office. I can understand CWW and JRR not taking the guns, but it doesn't make sense to NOT take the cash. Any random burglar or professional thief would have taken the cash, easy electronics, weapons.

    And MS tips his hand by asking Dr.P if it looked like a robbery... hmm. Why didn't he assume that TS had had an accident? Wasn't it mentioned years ago, that Dr. P had a brief thought that she may have been trying to hang a picture or something and fell? He quickly ruled that out, but it was a first thought. MS just assumed she was murdered. another ...hmm goes here...
     
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    FelicityLemon Well-Known Member

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    Much weirdness happening again while trying to post. That sentence is to replace a post that duplicated (triplicated) - jeez I'm annoying. So sorry.

    HOW DO I DELETE MY OWN POSTS THESE DAYS? I've been gone for such a long time and things have changed here, lol/ Still trying to find my way all over again.
     
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  4. FelicityLemon

    FelicityLemon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, call me inappropriate, but I'll add that he's also pretty cute!
    I still want to know he had any kind of insurance (life?) on the girls; my curiosity was prompted by the long ago report of him letting the girls play on the roof of the house.
     
  5. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    THat^^^ is the stuff the jury should be hearing about. That is so cruel to do to the children to have them praying on the side of the road for their mom's safety. Who does that to a child?

    My son was getting on a plane for a work trip recently and my 4 yr old granddaughter got very worried about him being 'flying so high in the sky.' Did her Mom scare her even more and pull over and pray for him desperately? NO, she assured her everything would be fine and they watched planes coming in and out and she saw how everything was okay.

    Mark is such a cold callous, heartless monster and I hope the jury can see that.
     
  6. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    Ugh, YES. He makes the girls huddle up and pray for Mom's safe return home, KNOWING she is about to die a brutal death. So now the girls will feel guilty, for not praying hard enough, not getting the Lord to listen to them, so they must not be worthy themselves....so many issues stemming from this cruelty...
     
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  7. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    He'd probably get the money and custody of his girls. :confused:
    I hope and pray these jurors understand the implication of that.
     
  8. mom2chloe

    mom2chloe Well-Known Member

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    Could it be Dr. P’s wife?! @beach any idea?
    Maybe the reason we have never seen anything from an interview with her is because she holds the card? I remember for the Casey Anthony case that despite the Sunshine Laws, Florida didn’t have to reveal everything.
    Fingers crossed and choosing to remain cautiously yet hopefully optimistic!
     
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  9. Katharine

    Katharine In memory of Travis Alexander-WS member 3/30/2013

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    I totally agree. Judge Kyle is so cute. I love his grins and smiles. He seems to have a sense of humor, too. Amid his intelligence, he is as you say "cool". He has been great!
     
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  10. MsJosie

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    How can he get off? He organized the murder. Even 2nd degree murder he still has to face Medicare fraud. I believe the jury will see he was the organizer, the employer. These guys would just not murder and not steal a thing. They were not gang members trying to make points in the gang. These were adults, possible previous hit men (even if the jury does not know any of previous issues. They were to get paid....and the employer was Mark. He was to pay them. They did not steal any of the money or valuables....why? Because Mark Promised CW and in turn CW promised JR m-o-n-e-y when the insurance money was to come in.

    I think the state could have been stronger....and I wonder why they were not. What were they afraid to say that would open up the defense to cause issues?

    Unfortunately, there are holes. I think the jury can see that and close them. I am not impressed with the state at all knowing what all they could have used.

    Still think it’s odd Mummert turns his body away from his client and ‘hides’ his written notes.

    yes, I think MS will testify....to show everyone just like Arias tried too.
     
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  11. Katharine

    Katharine In memory of Travis Alexander-WS member 3/30/2013

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    Please reassure me that in the jury instructions, there will be more than the one option of the death penalty. This just does not seem like a death penalty case as it has been presented. I will be happy with even 2nd degree as at least his girls will be grown up, no insurance money, and he will be an older unemployable man.

    I have been so glad that Teresa Sievers has not been smeared which could have happened had certain subjects been discussed. Is it possible her family requested that was not brought up? Do families have any say in other words?

    I am so worried. He does look so different from 4 years ago. His fakiness today when the medical examiner was going over the murder photos was revolting. I just hope the jury understands the glimpses into his guilt via his trial presence and the hit and miss circumstantial evidence.
     
  12. BeachSky

    BeachSky Well-Known Member

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    Kakidoll Karma never forgets

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    Its not over yet.... However i think if they go that route they will piss off the jury.
     
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    Dr P and Daniele Berardelli , two people who were close to TS
    (and probably tolerated Mark all the years they had to)
    Spoke for Teresa IMO. Both powerful on the stand..even on cross!
     
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    Omg y’all - can you imagine?! I hope those girls have inner strength to deal with their nightmare of a father.
     
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