MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #4

[inmyhumbleopinion]

I don't know. The whole "2 people from different companies who happened to work in the same office building became "just friends" casually over time" seems challenging, even in the best of circumstances. And if he only started working there in the Spring (and when did he stop, or did he stop). And if DS was out of the office this year for...the Summer? Longer? [ I read somewhere that most of her team is in NC. So she's maybe working "remote" even when she's in office. ] Seems like a difficult relationship to strike up btw two people who don't even work for the same company in that limited amount of exposure absent some reciprocal motivating factor.

RBBM.

Care to share where you saw this? I have been wondering how long FG has been working at the building where the MetLife office is located.

 

[thesaint]

I dunno how security is at MetLife's building. but at some office buildings, they now have magnetometer or metal detectors you go through to get into the building.

if they had such a thing at MetLife, and DS tossed her keys with the keychain fob related to smoking into the little tray/bowl they have to pass them around the magnetometer, and he's working security...

he, if he himself smokes/is familiar with it, notes her keychain, clocks her as a smoker and at some point chats with about it. maybe offers to get her premo gear at a good price, as an in, or just to be friendly.

Although fellow smokers probably don't even need the keychain thing to suss out that someone else also smokes. [assuming either them were smokers even]

 

[pineappleexpress]

What if he had MetLife health insurance for a sick wife, and met up to talk about it?

 

[katlock]

Do we know if DS, FG and EG knew each other socially...were friends or aquaintances? Some have speculated they dont run in the same circles because security guards dont make as much as DS. He has been working and going to the fire acadamy. EG and her family look typically middle class on FB. Wondering how/if they are connected other than through Metlife. Could DS have willingly got into the car with FG at IG? That's my theory. Im thinking it is a relationship or a sexual assault of an acquaintance that ended in DS's death [emoji22] I know tjere are many examples of "nice" guys who do horrible things. It doesnt seem like people close to FG dislike him. EG and her family have good things to say about him and in pics they look happy, in love..no red flags. Just MOO.

Hoping DS's loved ones have answers soon. Praying for them and EG..she has been through hell too.

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I'm not a detective nor do I work for a gov agency but my job is based mostly on finding people. I've found no connection to pg or eg with Dan.


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[2Hope4]

I don't know that she didn't give him a ride.....even if she only knew him as a security guard or didn't know him at all.

My mother was born in 1949. If you had asked me last week if she would have picked up someone, I would have said ABSOLUTELY NOT unless she knew them well. BUT....today she told me that she saw a young man walking...drove past him...but felt compelled to turn around, and go back to see if he needed a ride! Not only did this guy not ask for a ride, Mom didn't know him, even said there's no way she could identify him now!! YET, she picked him up, drove with him for over 30 minutes, and all she can remember about him was a young male, that held his shoes in his lap, and she doesn't know if he had another pair on or not, and he had a backpack, and he asked her if she went to church, and asked her to pray for him as he was having some problems. She didn't ask him what his problems were, his name, nothing! And where she picked him up from.....deserted, highly forested area.... YES she got a good talking to! I have no idea what made her do such! No one even knew she was in that area, and would have had no idea where to start looking for her if something had happened!!! I would have swore someone must have used a gun or something to get to cooperate...but nope...

So we just never know what someone may do, no matter what their normal is....

Thinking of Dani....praying for LE to be able to solve this case, and get a conviction from the DA!

 

[katlock]

I dunno how security is at MetLife's building. but at some office buildings, they now have magnetometer or metal detectors you go through to get into the building.

if they had such a thing at MetLife, and DS tossed her keys with the keychain fob related to smoking into the little tray/bowl they have to pass them around the magnetometer, and he's working security...

he, if he himself smokes/is familiar with it, notes her keychain, clocks her as a smoker and at some point chats with about it. maybe offers to get her premo gear at a good price, as an in, or just to be friendly.

Although fellow smokers probably don't even need the keychain thing to suss out that someone else also smokes. [assuming either them were smokers even]

No they don't have this at the office complex MetLife is located in. 100% certain.


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[thesaint]

RBBM.

Care to share where you saw this? I have been wondering how long FG has been working at the building where the MetLife office is located.

It's based on him working as an EMT in Lyon? back in the Spring. Someone posted up thread about it.

Could've been doing both. Tho I wouldn't want a worn out from working two jobs EMT rolling up to save my life. I don't know how that all works. Could be he worked a few 12 shifts as en EMT on weekends, then full-time security guard during the week.

I wonder which shift he worked security at the MetLife building. I've been assuming DS and he both worked the day shift. But if he worked 2nd shift security and DS, when she works in the office, sometimes clocks long hours. From my experience working crazy hours in an office setting, you get to know the cleaning people and security people a little better if you're one of a handful of employees still in office at 8 pm at night than if you/they are both there when the place is full of other worker-bees. I could see them striking up more of a "friends only" relationship in those circumstances.

 

[thesaint]

No they don't have this at the office complex MetLife is located in. 100% certain.

wow, surprised by that in 2016. soft-target for anyone looking to go postal. And MetLife does health insurance? In addition to disgruntled insured***/ex-employees/people looking to cash in their chips for 72 dark-eyed virgins, health insurers have to keep their data super-secure. Entering the BCBS buildings downtown, at least on the IT side, is like entering a prison. Maybe MetLife's main IT facilities are down in NC or elsewhere. And this office is more of a back-office paper-shuffling operation. That'd make sense. Given they seem to move it around a bit.

***and what person with a health insurance claim in 2016 isn't at least a little disgruntled

 

[katlock]

wow, surprised by that in 2016. soft-target for anyone looking to go postal. And MetLife does health insurance? In addition to disgruntled insured***/ex-employees/people looking to cash in their chips for 72 dark-eyed virgins, health insurers have to keep their data super-secure. Entering the BCBS buildings downtown, at least on the IT side, is like entering a prison. Maybe MetLife's main IT facilities are down in NC or elsewhere. And this office is more of a back-office paper-shuffling operation. That'd make sense. Given they seem to move around a bit.

***and what person with a health insurance claim in 2016 isn't at least a little disgruntled

Google the name of the complex MetLife is in. Galleria I think. Along with the city. Southfield?From what I found I think people are getting the wrong idea of the company. They seem to be a new tenant in a huge mega office complex.


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[soanyway]

Given what we've seen of DS's outgoing nature, I don't really find it surprising that she would have been friendly to the security guard (which he may have misinterpreted). Seeing someone at the desk every day (multiple times a day), would give anyone the opportunity to chat and feel as though they were somewhat "safe" in their presence. The security guard may have also moonlighted at a club that DS had been to. With a sick wife (and possible missed work for her), picking up extra jobs is not unreasonable. There was talk earlier of DS having a BF (out of state). IMO, there was nothing more than a casual friendship between DS and the security guard and I still haven't ruled on vengeance or retaliation on his part. All MOO

I don't know. The whole "2 people from different companies who happened to work in the same office building became "just friends" casually over time" seems challenging, even in the best of circumstances. And if he only started working there in the Spring (and when did he stop, or did he stop). And if DS was out of the office this year for...the Summer? Longer? [ I read somewhere that most of her team is in NC. So she's maybe working "remote" even when she's in office. ] Seems like a difficult relationship to strike up btw two people who don't even work for the same company in that limited amount of exposure absent some reciprocal motivating factor.

 

[thesaint]

Google the name of the complex MetLife is in. Galleria I think. Along with the city. Southfield?From what I found I think people are getting the wrong idea of the company. They seem to be a new tenant in a huge mega office complex.


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ok, so that's entering the building in general?

MetLife might have, almost has to have, I would think, security people when you enter their offices inside that building***. Possibly/likely employees of / contracted out to the same people who provide security to the building overall.

which if they had that and he was one of the security people assigned to MetLife's offices, much easier to strike up a relationship, at whatever level.

But maybe not. Perhaps they just have proximity badges and they trust no one will buddy-enter behind employees badging themselves in.

Or nothing at all. Which would be crazy in 2016.

***For health insurers/ "covered entities" to be HIPPA-compliant, they have to "limit physical access to facilities while ensuring that only authorized access is allowed."

 

[katlock]

ok, so that's entering the building in general?

MetLife might have, almost has to have, I would think, security people (possibly/likely employees of / contracted out to the same people who provide security to the building overall) when you enter their offices inside that building.

which if they had that and he was one of the security people assigned to MetLife's offices, much easier to strike up a relationship, at whatever level.

But maybe not. Perhaps they just have proximity badges and they trust no one will buddy-enter behind employees badging themselves in.

Or nothing at all. Which would be crazy in 2016.

Maybe but I think MetLifes security is particular to their own floor or office. With a such a big complex and MetLife just leasing a small space in the scheme of the square footage, unlikely they are involved with security for anywhere outside their floor or office.


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[Tbone144]

Google the name of the complex MetLife is in. Galleria I think. Along with the city. Southfield?From what I found I think people are getting the wrong idea of the company. They seem to be a new tenant in a huge mega office complex.


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If that's the correct building it seems they just started leasing the space. I found an article about redoing the space and new tenants leasing dated October 2016 another end of November and another early Dec.

http://www.friedmanrealestate.com/news/friedman-transforming-galleria-officentre-in-southfield-michigan/

[http://rebusinessonline.com/friedman-negotiates-26607-sf-office-lease-for-metlife-in-southfield-michigan/

Parking is in open lot, not parking garage. Never been a stalker so I don't know how long it takes to learn someone's habits.

Maybe POI asked if she would like to have an escort to her car, it was starting to get dark around that time correct? Make an excuse about local crimes? Maybe he was leaving at the same time and offered to walkout with her. Would make him POI if he was seen walking out with her. When I was a young woman in bigger cities, having a security guard escort would have seemed safer than none.

Do we know if the apartment complex IGA has a security company drive around in the lots? From the sounds of it improvements were being made, lot security could be one. Or if the POI had one of those security cars for the lots at Galleria, seeing a security guard car in apartment complex lot wouldn't be surprising.

Just some thoughts that have occurred to me.

 

[kaitelweiss]

Nope FDS post/comment by family

Thank you very much! Was very confused.


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[CarolynV]

Hi everyone, I am local, but not in Farmington, my daughter used to live there until last year, but it just popped into my head that maybe she had car trouble and he helped her get it started and followed her home on a previous occasion, same thing with a flat tire? She would be relieved that day and not concerned?

 

[Wardog]

I disagree with that. The news report indicated this house in question. Its easily findable (as many have found on this forum), that FG is clearly not white. Its also easily findable that EG has Red hair. Their pictures are out there and a lot of people have seen them. So while I agree that the news didn't "directly" report what these people looked like, standing outside there house and broadcasting their front yard on TV, in this day and age, its pretty easy to see a picture of them with nothing more than a couple of clicks.

 

[Lia_]

My mother was born in 1949. If you had asked me last week if she would have picked up someone, I would have said ABSOLUTELY NOT unless she knew them well. BUT....today she told me that she saw a young man walking...drove past him...but felt compelled to turn around, and go back to see if he needed a ride! Not only did this guy not ask for a ride,*

I live not too far from where DS lives and I admit to having stopped to help a stranger and driving the stranger to the gas station. My fiance offered the woman, without asking me...My mom was furious with me to which I replied that the woman seemed perfectly normal...in reality she spent her time in our vehicle on the phone with a friend and I did as well (my husband was driving), I think she was nervous like I was and we both had a friend on the line just in case but it was still stupid of me. My husband mike and I were like 22 at the time. I couldn't convince mike that he shouldn't ever do that, that he wasn't invincible and yet A few years later he saw a man walking with a gas can in hand in scorching hot temperatures and mike was by himself this time. He offered the man a ride to get gas and the guy was so appreciative that after mike refused to accept money for helping him, we discovered later that the man had thrown the $20 mike refused into the side of the passenger door lol. He took that to mean he did the right thing, I took it as he got so very lucky because plenty of so called "harmless looking soccer dads" are probably bad people but people make snap judgement, that "oh they don't look like a murderer" what the heck lol that kind of thinking leads people here

For all the good stories there's horrifying stories and I would now never ever risk such a thing. I will stop at car accidents to offer help or a phone in daylight but even that I have only done once since mike passed 11 months ago, it isn't worth the risk period. It's hard to ignore my instinct to help people. My mom is the opposite. I witnessed a terrible accident and stayed and helped and calmed the kids mom down when she arrived, I provided statements to the police and mike helped put a spare tire on the totalled car in attempts to get it out of the road.

Months later me and mike get subpoenaed to testify in court about what we saw in the accident. My husbands response was omg this is so cool we get to go to a courtroom and testify and my mom's reaction was "I hope you learned ur lesson and never do that again". Provided it's daytime and people are around and medics are being called I would still help but do you guys think that's also dangerous akin to offering a stranger a ride?

 

[thesaint]

At 4:30 on a Friday, DS would've had to go 14 miles out of her way, the complete opposite way, in developing rush-hour traffic to drop him off. And then she'd have to back-track those 14 miles + drive the original ~12 miles to her place in FH--and at that point in full-on after 5 rush hour on a Friday traffic.

So instead of leaving work at 4:30 to beat traffic ( a bit ) and making it home before 5...she's now getting home closer to 5:30, or later; traffic can be quite a snarl in that part of the burbs, esp on a Friday during rush-hour.

740 Bus (the one mentioned above in this thread, that you'd take to get back to POI's house in Berkley from DS's place in FH) stops right at the 300 Galleria center. Jump on the bus and he's home in 30 minutes (depending on traffic). no transfers needed.

+ UBERs are plentiful around the northern burbs. I'd rather give dude a few dollars for bus fare or 10$ for the UBER ride ( could even hail an uber for someone else and pay for it on your account and not have to ride with them) than have to negotiate rush hour traffic there and back to get him home. Especially if I had to be somewhere other than my place by 5:30.

And if you are going to give someone a ride in those circumstances, wouldn't you immediately text or call your friend expecting you for dinner that you're giving someone a ride and might be later than expected.

 

[NYArtist]

I was just trying to think of places that a certain person frequents might be of interest to search.

Is there a Specific person you are thinking of in regard to your statement that mentions "certain person".

 

[Awom]

I haven't posted anything for a while, but I want to post a challenge to something a lot of people are assuming. If Dani's alleged abductor took her car and returned it themself, that person would have required assistance returning home or to their vehicle. So this brings into question the need for an accomplice or some sort of transportation service, which would alternatively imply a witness! With the apparent lack of phyical evidence and the slow pace of the investigation, the daytime abduction at her apartment seems more likely than masterfully puts her car right back where it belongs and then exposes himself to someone that can place him where she lives.