MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #6

[Yeahbabs]

Okay, about the cameras, IGA not installing them, MetLife's reward, etc. I've mentioned before that I work in insurance, too. I don't have anything to do with commercial insurance but something from a discussion in my adjuster's license training kept nagging at the back of my mind, so I finally researched a bit to refresh what I'd been thinking.

Apparently, there are a number of cases where the courts have ruled that when people see cameras, there is “a reasonable expectation of response.” Because of this, the presence of security cameras (unless they are connected to CCTV that is monitored live 24/7) can actually INCREASE a company's liability, because the increased expectation of response is false.

This article explains it pretty well: https://www.kirschenbaumesq.com/article/qa-do-camera-increase-owners-liability-exposure

If MetLife had cameras that were functioning perfectly but NOT monitored live, they would have increased their liability for any crimes they failed to stop. Possibly motivation for offering a $50k reward, especially if they are set up to be monitored 24/7 but something interfered that day (guy monitoring fell asleep, whatever).

And likewise this could be behind IGA's decision not to install cameras. Like DexterMorgan has pointed out, installing cameras would cost way less than $50k, but installing them + paying to have them monitored 24/7/365 + liability associated with any failure to monitor them...$50k reward is a bargain.


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[kaleonsale]

I think the one thing we can probably all agree on as fact is that from the beginning LE has known much more. Early on it seemed, IMO, that her disappearance was part of something larger. I say that because, really, nothing about this case has been the norm; from the verbiage used by LE and family in the beginning straight to the fact that no one, not one person, whether a distant friend of the family or someone at Met Life, or even someone in a building close by, at this point has anonymously leaked info or rumor.

Take into account the unique circumstances that surround this case; the sad past of the best friend, the theories regarding the key chain, the sad yet bizarre death of another Farmington Hills woman, a drug arrest and a kidnapping on the same day at the same apt complex, and a security guard who "worked or had worked at Met Life" (again, that verbiage), a seemingly hacked yet bizarre old Twitter account, Michigan being one of the largest hubs for HT, and everybody's number one question, the reason behind the swift inclusion of 12 LE agencies.

It's understandable that seasoned Websleuths here have been annoyed by the constant speculation and theorizing in this case but it's almost impossible not to, given the above which could all end up being a whole lot of nothing or just a little bit of something. If there are any writers following this thread, we've no doubt given them fodder for their next big screenplay, but not without good reason. The best thing that's happened in the last five weeks, IMO, is that this case went national via Fox (here's to hoping Daily Mail picks it up next). Maybe because a reporter noticed the SM campaign or maybe because there is going to be a lot more to the story. Lilnuggent asked last night why the house search wasn't included in the Fox article, then a few hours later, a paragraph was added to include that search. Weird. Questions, everywhere. Danielle, nowhere.

With all the above taken into account, JMO but I'm left with this--

1- The plans. While I don't personally find it at all strange to have sleepovers, this scenario and timeline has bothered me the most. Friend most likely able to have provided important info to LE that the public is not privy to at this time, and whatever it was, was cause for immediate alarm, 12 agency type alarm. Assuming there would've been a brief phone call between the two when DS got out of work, the friend might've been the only one who would've known whether or not DS was stopping for groceries or running another errand. The fact that this dinner/sleepover is being described as a meeting DS would absolutely not miss, does not correlate with the fact that there was no worry until 4pm next day.

2- Key chain with two keys. IMO the focus on the key chain is because its unique, not because of what it signifies. It's kind of cute and something someone might remember seeing somewhere as opposed to a nondescript bunch of keys. Two keys (if not for her mailbox) could've been to a place she was stopping at prior to going to the friends? Storage facility, lock box, keys to friends house?

3- Searches. LE was already doing searches before it was made public, word got out through FB, not sure if LE intended to publicize those searches so it might be a safe bet to say there have been more searches, perhaps many, that they've been able to keep under wraps. Asking public not to search, not weird. Integral if different kinds of dogs need to be brought in at any time.

4- Security guard (irregardless of who he was employed by). Most likely the last person seen with DS which for sure would've made him a POI. However, if DS had been worried about something else could it be possible that she might've asked to be escorted to her car?

5- Crime of passion. Form fitting clothes to more over sized tops. Could be cold whether clothing. November Danielle completed on instagram. A good amount of extra space left in the way the flannel hangs. Two hearts drawn on top of her own, one bigger, one tiny.

All JMO.

Someone out there knows something. The hardest thing is always the right thing to do. Be anonymous, stay anonymous. Call in the that one tip that will bring her home.

THIS sums up everything I've felt over the past four weeks. One thing, though, that keeps persistently bugging me is why it took over 24 hours for the friend to go check on Danielle.


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[missgulfsouth]

5- Crime of passion. Form fitting clothes to more over sized tops. Could be cold whether clothing. November Danielle completed on instagram. A good amount of extra space left in the way the flannel hangs. Two hearts drawn on top of her own, one bigger, one tiny.

I haven't seen the IG ... was there a marked difference all of a sudden? Oversized clothes, meaning she'd lost a lot of weight? Or was possibly expecting? 3 hearts ... hmmm.

 

[newwe]

Some time ago I saw something that does not go along with some of this. Plans were not made that day, perhaps the details were but DS had already planned Fri and Sat, just not Sun.<modsnip>

I thought I saw that too. I've read that her friend was working on sat night but I'm not sure where that came from. I wonder why she'd stay sat night if her friend was working. (Sorry I'm just thinking out loud.)


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[Yesiamapirate]

THIS sums up everything I've felt over the past four weeks. One thing, though, that keeps persistently bugging me is why it took over 24 hours for the friend to go check on Danielle.


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I kind of was thinking the same thing about waiting. Then I put myself in her shoes. Not having hindsight or the mindset I have about crime and such. Just an average young person. She was probably mad, sad, curious... lots of stuff. May have even called and chewed her out for blowing her off. But the furthest thing on her mind was her friend was kidnapped.

My husband is 10 minutes late and I already have him in a ditch run over and taken away by a pack of wolves. Me??? I could be missing for three days and he would not notice. Just kidding but you might know what I mean here.

 

[Zebra Lady]

My husband fears my obsession with true crime...he thinks if he ever pisses me off I'll have figured out the perfect crime [emoji6]

LOL ! My kids would always say they were more of afraid of me finding out about things they wanted to keep from me because I would research it better than the FBI. Told them all - and don't you forget it !!

 

[Baxter102]

IMO, I don't think it's weird at all that MetLife offered up a reward for DS. They are an insurance company after all; they offer life insurance, etc. Although it's foreign to us, offering up a reward probably felt like second nature to them. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if DS's insurance was supplied by them, so it makes sense that it was an automatic extinct for them to give up a reward.

Also, although many of us may despise our day jobs, I'm sure the multi-billion dollar companies wouldn't bat an eye at 50,000. In fact, as disgusting as it is, it may look like good publicity.

I could be incorrect, but just wanted to point out that the reward may not be as ominous as it looks. Also, I don't believe MetLife would offer a reward if they were privy to any ongoing situation between DS and FG. Doing so would make them look guilty, and could incrimate them. Being that they are an insurance company, I highly doubt they would throw themself into the investigation willingly.

 

[sparker111]

I know this is a random question, but can anyone tell what DS has in her headband in her fifth to last IG post?

 

[mittenstate1988]

IF something happened to Danielle while that person was busy NOT calling police, aren't they guilty of something? Like Aiding and abetting or something? Even if someone was just told what happened, and sat on it for any period of time, I'm pretty sure thats a crime.

No, it is not a crime in Michigan. There is no duty to a non-involved third party to intervene or to report.

 

[mittenstate1988]

Why would LE not mention the person she was last seen with if they knew?

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Because they are hoping there are still eyewitnesses out there who saw him with her or in her car who just haven't come forward yet. The minute they release his name or photo, potential eyewitness testimony becomes just about useless to the prosecutor.

 

[msphilosopher]

I know this is a random question, but can anyone tell what DS has in her headband in her fifth to last IG post?

At first I thought it was concert tickets or movie stubs. I zoomed in and it looks like a larger paper/ box scrap. The smaller piece in front is a picture of two people one of which looks like is wearing a graduation gown.

She calls it her "headband pocket organizer" in her post.


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[JMS1610]

Hello! First time posting.. but I have been following this thread daily & I would like to share what I think/my theory.

*LONG POST WARNING*

The whole scenario with the friend just is not clicking with me.. I do not think the friend is involved at all in DS disappearance, but I do think that we do not know the whole/real story.

DS and her friends are the same age as my friends and I. In fact, I have mutual friends with DS. If she is anything like the majority of our generation is, and I believe she is, then I am sure that her best friend and her text everyday, multiple times a day, especially if they are making/have made plans. I know that my best friend and I will verify times, or just even talk about random stuff, even if we are about to hang out later in the afternoon. If my best friend and I had plans for dinner at my house, and she just happened to not show up, even though we had talked about it that day, I would be worried. Most girls who are super close are also close with one anothers family.. Even if not super close with the family, they still would know how to get a hold of them if needed. So if my friend didnt show up, I would first contact her and say "hey, i'm hungry, when are you gonna get here?" or "should I start cooking/eating without you?"..and then that would be followed with "hhheeelllooooooo??" ... if I still do not get a response, I would then contact her parents/siblings, or another friend of ours that I know talks to her regularly, as well. If not that day, then definitely the next morning once I realized I still have not heard from her.. There is no way I could just ignore the fact that she did not show up after we just made plans..And her friend knows that DS lives alone..so wouldnt she be worried she may have fell or hurt herself in her apartment??

Ok now based off all of that, here is my theory:

DS and her mom work at the same company. DS had some business to take care of, she needed to get out of work early, so she used her friend as the excuse as to why she had to leave early. She probably told the friend that she was going to say she is leaving early to meet her, in case anyone was to ask.. She may or may not have told the friend what she really was up to, but knowing how close girlfriends are, I am sure that DS mentioned at least a little of it to her... So this would explain why the friend didn't worry or ask about DS Friday... Maybe she did text DS that night to see how things went, and did not hear back from her, and ended up falling asleep.. Maybe then she texted in the morning..and still no reply, but figured that DS may be at the training, and she will reply at lunch/break.. and then maybe once all that time has passed and still nothing from DS, she started to worry that something may have gone wrong the night before...Would she have told LE this? Maybe... Maybe not. Maybe just part of it.. Maybe that is why the majority of us feels as if LE is keeping something hush hush about the meeting with her friend..and maybe that is why many of us feel as if there are missing pieces with Friday and why her friend did not worry then. Maybe the friend really did not know what DS was up to and that she just said she had to take care of something or meet with someone..and then LE asked the friend if DS has ever mentioned anyone to her, and that is how FG came up.. That could be why the house listed under FGs name was searched?

I know I havent filled all the holes, but I really feel as if something like this may have happened..

 

[kmarques]

I went back to her IG. The second to last pic is the chalkboard with Liberty Greens written on it. What she wrote was beautiful and crushing since she posted this the day before she disappeared. Now I may have missed it in a prior post, but does anyone know what Liberty Greens is? Sounds almost like a community garden. Just curious as this sounds like an important part of her life and as a local I haven't heard of it.


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[sparker111]

That Liberty Greens IG post really is beautiful and poignant. Reading back a few posts from that she mentioned struggling with choosing a blog/brand name. I was wondering if she was considering this as a name?

 

[kmarques]

That Liberty Greens IG post really is beautiful and poignant. Reading back a few posts from that she mentioned struggling with choosing a blog/brand name. I was wondering if she was considering this as a name?

That could very well be it.


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[BetteDavisEyes]

Google Liberty Greens Michigan rendered this: https://www.leafly.com/dispensary-info/the-green-door-ann-arbor fftobed:

 

[vanwr]

Google Liberty Greens Michigan rendered this: https://www.leafly.com/dispensary-info/the-green-door-ann-arbor fftobed:

I'm sorry-what am I missing with this?

 

[vanwr]

That could very well be it.


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I thought she wanted to start maybe a restaurant? Something to do with food? Healthy. Like farm-to-table? I could be wrong!

 

[thekarmabus]

Something doesn't fit... I am assuming the friend knew she had to work in morning at training session. Why would she go to DS apartment knowing she had to be at work at 8 am? I could have missed something where MetLife called someone first of her not showing. It doesn't add up. Girlfriends this close know each other's schedules ... friend would have known her morningbschedule if she was staying there that night.

 

[kmarques]

I thought she wanted to start maybe a restaurant? Something to do with food? Healthy. Like farm-to-table? I could be wrong!

That's totally possible. I was just curious because it seems so important to her.


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