GUILTY MT - Sherry Arnold, 43, Sidney, 7 Jan 2012 - #2

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cluciano63 said:
So...she has been found??
This makes it sound like they have her back?
I know I couldn't say those words if I only had verbal confirmation that my loved one was dead. JMO
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That's what I was just thinking.
 
This is a very quiet case, I know its sunday and all but there are no details coming out at all. ? Something is not right.
 
liltexans said:
Also from the abc article:

"We would like to thank police, FBI, people of Sidney, the people around who have turned out to help, and the role they played in bringing Sherry back home," Arnold's husband, Gary Arnold, told ABC News. "It wasn't how we wanted her to come home, but she came home to us."
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Sherry's case was talked about this morning on GMA Weekend and they read this quote. It certainly made it sound like her body has been found. I am sure her family knows a lot more than we do.
 
I sure hope her family has her back. I can't imagine not having the opportunity to properly bury her especially after having someone take her life.
 
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Do you think she was on tribal land and that is why there has been such limited and confusing information? It would explain the comment about the names needing to be released by the correct court.

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I don't know anything about tribal law except what I've Googled in the past few days but wonder if the murder charges would have to come from tribal court.
 
JMO but I really hope the suspects do not turn out to be related to the oil community, as it will certainly increase the local prejudices that may exist a hundred-fold...
 
Noway said:
FBI spokeswoman Debbie Bertram said on Saturday that any information on the arraignments, including the men's names, would have to come "through the appropriate court, if that information is available."​


This is the reference I was talking about.​
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"DiFonzo said he expects the two men to be extradited to Sidney from Williston at some point. He didn't want to speculate on a timeline because of the ongoing federal investigation."

Based on that first sentence if they are anticipating extradition to Sidney then wouldn't that mean that they will be tried in Sidney?

But then the second sentence has me puzzled. Could the federal investigation be in reference to how they stepped in to help with the investigation? Does it suggest something happened on tribal land?

Maybe when they are saying that the information, the men's names will be released once they are in the custody of Sidney LE since it looks like they might have jurisdiction.

I don't know, its weird, I'm sure it will all make sense pretty soon.

I wish they wound have found her alive. But, I'm glad they were able to make arrests because in the beginning I really thought that a trucker did this while just passing through the city and the family would never know what happened. And it is good to hear statements from the family that seem to indicate they found Sherry's remains.
 
I thought the mayor was referring to the increase in crime due to the increase of population (who happen to be oil workers).

During the month of August, Mohr presided over 27 civil cases, 94 city cases, 27 from the Department of Transportation, 54 from the sheriff’s office, 32 from highway patrol and six from fish and game.

http://www.sidneyherald.com/articles/2011/10/15/news/doc4e99b71a293dd391874768.txt


While Sidney's crime rate may be lower than that of Montana and the nation, it is still more than what its residents were accostomed to, and they may have felt it has mushroomed.

I think what he was trying to say is that Sidney was no longer a place where you could go anywhere in the town at any time of night or day, but he was tactless in his choice of words. I thought I'd read that he was a friend of both Gary and Sherry (rumor until I find that information), in which case, I will cut him some slack.

Violent crime in Sidney, population 5,000, has mushroomed thanks to an influx oil field workers following the Bakken oil boom in North Dakota.

Although there is no suggestion that oil workers were involved in Mrs Arnold's disappearance authorities believe they have brought a transient dangerous element to the small town, where everyone used to know each other.

'We own the day,' Brett Smelser told ABCNews. "They own the night. Unfortunately, Sherry was running in the early hours of the morning.'
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ers-teachers-disappearance.html#ixzz1jYcbcGSk
 
If Sherry was taken in one state and killed in another, it could be a federal crime, I think. JMO
 
Noway said:
Map Link from above

Do you think she was on tribal land and that is why there has been such limited and confusing information? It would explain the comment about the names needing to be released by the correct court.

eta
I don't know anything about tribal law except what I've Googled in the past few days but wonder if the murder charges would have to come from tribal court.
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Good thought. I think that could be a very reasonable explanation for why information is so scarce and confusing, including the comment about the "appropriate court".

Thanks
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Noway said:
I thought the mayor was referring to the increase in crime due to the increase of population (who happen to be oil workers).

During the month of August, Mohr presided over 27 civil cases, 94 city cases, 27 from the Department of Transportation, 54 from the sheriff’s office, 32 from highway patrol and six from fish and game.

http://www.sidneyherald.com/articles/2011/10/15/news/doc4e99b71a293dd391874768.txt


While Sidney's crime rate may be lower than that of Montana and the nation, it is still more than what its residents were accostomed to, and they may have felt it has mushroomed.

I think what he was trying to say is that Sidney was no longer a place where you could go anywhere in the town at any time of night or day, but he was tactless in his choice of words. I thought I'd read that he was a friend of both Gary and Sherry (rumor until I find that information), in which case, I will cut him some slack.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ers-teachers-disappearance.html#ixzz1jYcbcGSk
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The word "transient" used to describe the workers scares me. It just makes it sound like there's just a lot of comin' and goin' of people that don't want others to know where they're coming from and where they are going to.

That is a scary situation for a small town that has never had to deal with anything like that. But if the riggs are attracting shady people it has me worried for the families that are out there in trailers and motels who are more likely to be a victim. YKWIM?
 
cluciano63 said:
If Sherry was taken in one state and killed in another, it could be a federal crime, I think. JMO
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At the federal level, Congress passed the Lindbergh Act in 1932 to prohibit interstate kidnapping (48 Stat. 781 [codified at 18 U.S.C.A. §§ 1201 et seq.]). The Lindbergh Act was named for Charles A. Lindbergh, a celebrated aviator and Air Force colonel whose baby was kidnapped and killed in 1932. The act provides that if a victim is not released within 24 hours after being abducted, a court may presume that the victim was transported across state lines. This presumption may be rebutted with evidence to the contrary. Other federal kidnapping statutes prohibit kidnapping in U.S. territories, kidnapping on the high seas and in the air, and kidnapping of government officials (18 U.S.C.A. §§ 1201 et seq., 1751 et seq.).

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/kidnapping


And with Sidney, MT being so close to North Dakota (and Canada) it was a distinct possibility. I think the sheriff said words to that effect early on.

"In cases where an adult may have been taken across state lines against their will, the FBI becomes involved," Debbie Dujanovic Bertram, the FBI public affairs specialist in Salt Lake City, told ABCNews.com. "We are not saying that happened, but it is one of the angles we are looking into."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-mo...ld-fbi-possibilty-abduction/story?id=15330876
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If the two arrested in different states and charged with "kidnapping" it would seem that her remains (body) was found with one of them,no?
 
Elley Mae said:
If the two arrested in different states and charged with "kidnapping" it would seem that her remains (body) was found with one of them,no?
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I don't know about that because of how long it has been since Sherry disappeared. But it does make it possible that only one of them knows where the body is.

Maybe that is why that is being kept quiet.
 
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