I think burner phone calls can only be traced if LE has the phone or phone number. One does not set up an account when purchasing a burner phone directly off a shelf. That's all I know about throw away phones, but there's lots of info online...my opinion only
It doesn't sound stupid, it sounds like a legit question
I'm not an expert at all, but based on the info I've gathered following cases were "burners" or disposable/prepaid phones are used, it literally can be any kind of phone that is used exclusively for calls/text, and doesn't have any personal accounts connected. If someone has an older iphone sitting in a drawer, that will work the same as a brand new "cheap" phone.
First, it was just a guess that it might be a disposable phone. Heck, if LE came into my house right now searching for phones, they'd find around 10-15 of them. Every time one of my kids upgraded, the old phone got cleared, they pulled the card and tossed it into a drawer
Any one of them could actually be used as a disposable if I just went and bought a card and pay as you go minutes on them. But to answer your question, yes, all the info on the "burner" would be there for LE to see but without being able to tie the phone directly to the person, leaves some wiggle room.
They were probably “older or obsolete” (based on not being able to update the iOS software/firmware. I myself have 3 older iPhones and 5 older Android phones. I utilize them for their cameras and on WiFi. Just MOO.
Caveat to my initial reply: I haven’t read the released/redacted warrants yet; however, if it was stated that they were “currently active” then my suggestion probably would not apply (active meaning with an operating cellular provider account for each phone). The information is probably still present, even on older phones (yes, I save the data “just in case” I might have need of it in the future lol).
I read this as part of their reasoning for the search warrant. My guess is that they used a photo of that partition to obtain the warrant to go into it. IMO.
Unfortunately all we can do is speculate here as we really don’t know.
But you still have to have an account to use an old iPhone that goes with the phone number and that is how you can be tracked, right? In this case it is not a burner phone, right?It doesn't sound stupid, it sounds like a legit question
Interesting. I would think that if Madalina was killed in the home, then legally speaking she was not kidnapped. So it seems that LE believe that M was taken elsewhere by persons known or unknown.
I'm not an expert in this field of how burner/disposable phones work, so I don't feel comfortable to say either yes for sure, or no. I was just offering some opinions on the 3rd phone from the scene.
Exactly what I have felt since the beginning. A few weeks back I suggested that maybe she had been kidnapped by a third party and DC and CP were keeping quiet as they were scared that if they spoke harm could come to MC. I know it was poo-pooed at the time but now the case actually quotes Kidnapping, I wonder if this is actually the case.
I would assume if they were already inside taking pictures, they had a search warrant. The warrant would be made for the whole address, not likely just specific areas. Definitely not wording in a warrant to the effect, “except partitioned off areas”. If they have a warrant….. they search the entire property, locked, partitioned, sheds, outbuildings, garages, …….
