OH - Ohio State University Rampage, 28 November 2016

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  1. K_Z

    K_Z Verified Anesthetist

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    I completely agree. He is not 18 years old, IMO. He is at least mid twenties. It's a big problem with all refugees and illegal aliens from third world countries, because there is essentially no functioning government, little to no registry of births, spotty/ absent documentation, etc. It is well known that minors receive preferential asylum treatment in most countries that accept asylees, and many claim to be under age 18 who are much older.

    Just two of thousands of links:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/01/13/when-underage-refugees-look-anything-but-age-tests-sweden/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...child-refugees-lying-age-actually-adults.html

     


  2. dotr

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    Thanks for the clarification, sorry for the misunderstanding.:smile:
     
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    K_Z Verified Anesthetist

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    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-state-attack-what-we-know-about-abdul-razak-ali-n689556

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-st...ok-post-muslim-suspect-abdul-razak-ali-artan/
     
  4. Dogface

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    I find his comment about the prayer rooms to be quite telling. In retrospect there might have been a lot of anger under that comment. But, for petes sake, you are on a college campus, getting prayer rooms seems like an easy thing to accomplish with the astounding open mindless that is usually found on college campuses.
     
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  6. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    Maybe because he'd already started his education in Columbus?

    Somali Community Association of Ohio:
    http://www.somaliohio.org/

    More than One Thousand of Somali's are attending Ohio Colleges and Universities.
    99.9% of Somali are Muslims

    Columbus.gov Somali Community Project:
    https://www.columbus.gov/uploadedfi...th/somalicommunityproject_final_12.3.2010.pdf

    Columbus, Ohio has the second largest Somali community in U.S., with an estimated 45,000 Somalis living in this area.

    There's much more at both those links.

    So maybe he would have been more comfortable there wrt religion, but wanted the familiarity and educational opportunities available here. (Which he threw away anyway, which he could have thrown away without doing so much damage in the process.)
     
  7. K_Z

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    UAE is not really interested in taking many refugees. Artan and his family came to the US in 2014, after 7 years in a pakistan refugee camp. Anyone who is a refugee in UAE is not eligible for Emirates citizenship, also.

    http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/4ffd31262.pdf

    http://www.npr.org/sections/paralle...ticism-about-doing-little-for-syrian-refugees

    http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/dubai-based-charity-aids-somali-refugees
     
  8. Tillicum

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    Are they saying he purchased the knife on Monday morning or are they referring to the attack on Monday morning? I just assumed he brought a knife from home. Thoughts?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-st...razak-ali-arta-may-have-come-out-of-the-blue/
     
  9. K_Z

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    http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/4ffd31262.pdf
     
  11. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    It does sound confusing. I searched and found this:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/isis-attempts-claim-osu-attacker-soldier/story?id=43851229

    If he purchased it at WalMart there are undoubtedly receipts and video. But how strange he bought it at the last minute like that.
     
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    I live in a foreign country now and picked up a guy hitchhiking who was from the Netherlands. Blonde hair, blue eyes.

    He is going to the Middles East eventually, even Iran and Saudia arabia. I asked how he could go to Iran and he said they love Dutch people.

    I asked how he could afford to travel around . I said he must have had a good job. He said he worked in the UAE.

    He said that there is no poverty in the Netherlands. America was very strange to him.

    It is interesting the different views . I wonder if the UAE is recovered. Sounds like a good place to get a high paying job
     
  13. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    I just saw a TV news (sorry don't know the channel) interviewed his neighbor lady.
    She said allot of strangers were visiting him. Then she said he wore a gopro??? on his head
    the night before and said if he died it would show who did it..............I have to search for a link.
    Did anyone else see or hear this interview tonight?
     
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    OT, but oh my gosh, be careful picking up hitchhikers!
     
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    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/muslim-r...at-ohio-state-university/#JJK74DpOcCyiPvL3.99

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/machete-attack-nazareth-restaurant-columbus-ohio-stabbing/

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nazareth-restaurant-police-machete-attacker-columbus-ohio/
     
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    The father not joining the family would have been my next question, but when poster Human mentioned high paying jobs in the UAE, thought/hoped that he was there to help support his family.
    Wondering if the absence of his father might have made the perp take drastic measures to get his attention?
    speculation, imo.
     
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    http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2016/11/ohio_state_attacker_wasnt_well.html
     
  19. K_Z

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    I have to wonder if there is any truth to the story that the attacker's father is in Dubai. It doesn't seem to be a very likely path, that a man from Somalia who was purportedly abducted, and may or may not have spent time in a Pakistani refugee camp with his family, would end up in a sponsored job in wealthy Dubai-- who accepts only a handful of Somali refugees every year.

    I'm sure the U.S. authorities (Homeland Security and FBI are leading the investigation) are now looking into all of the particulars of how this family came to be sponsored by Catholic Charities into the U.S., and what kind of vetting procedures were conducted.

    I'd be particularly interested in learning the ages of the 6 siblings, as it sounds like some are fairly young. Several articles say Artan drove his siblings to school before he conducted the terrorist attack. If that is so, then they are school age. The family spent 7 years in a pakistani camp, and came here 2 years ago, while the father is reportedly in Dubai-- not sure what year they say he went there. The timeline is somewhat troubling.
     
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    Texas Governor weighs in on the OSU terror attack, and the role his state played in the refugee process.

    http://kut.org/post/greg-abbott-points-osu-stabbing-caution-against-refugee-resettlement
     

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