VERDICT WATCH OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered - 4 Wagner Family Members Arrested #85

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PIKE COUNTY, Ohio —

A town woke up one morning to the horror that eight people were brutally killed. The Rhoden family suffered an unthinkable loss eight times over on one late April night in 2016. And years would go by before an arrest was made, and the massacre of an entire family still haunts Pike County, Ohio to this day. On April 22, 2021 Edward Jake Wagner pleads guilty and agrees to testify against family members.

PRESSER: APRIL 27, 2016

Video Interview with Attorney General DeWine Published 8-13-16

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Starting new thread for testimony in Wagner murder trial in Pike County. Also just learned appeals court ruled in media's favor allowing us to photograph and video any exhibit or evidence shown in court. It's up to us whether to publish or broadcast. Thanks
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[YaYa_521]

Continue the discussion here.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

So if Bullvine was supposed to be poison at the border by The BCI, why did Billy, Angela and George himself set in the vehicle for over an hour waiting on Jake and Suds to come out from there interview????

 

[ohioexpat63]

So if Bullvine was supposed to be poison at the border by The BCI, why did Billy, Angela and George himself set in the vehicle for over an hour waiting on Jake and Suds to come out from there interview????

Because they are liars and paranoid due to their history of violating the law for years, to include murder. Projecting

 

[justtrish]

So if Bullvine was supposed to be poison at the border by The BCI, why did Billy, Angela and George himself set in the vehicle for over an hour waiting on Jake and Suds to come out from there interview????

Because they can't claim the poisoning until they all are free and clear to leave. Then they could make up some concern about the sleepy meds BCI gave him. lol

 

[Chris_p_bacon]

So if Bullvine was supposed to be poison at the border by The BCI, why did Billy, Angela and George himself set in the vehicle for over an hour waiting on Jake and Suds to come out from there interview????

It seems like it is their MO when they need someone to leave them alone. I don't believe anyone tried to poison them.
But it seems the have accused the following people of trying to poison them:
Tabbi
BCI
Beth
I forget did Hanna try to poison them when she lived with them.
anyone else I am forgetting

Obviously this ploy did not work with a state agency. BCI did not poison them and did not stop investigating them.

 

[Pru2U]

I forget did Hanna try to poison them when she lived with them.

Heck no. According to testimony by Jake, Angela & George, they all three LOVED Hanna to death. How ironic and disgusting is THAT?

 

[Johnny B Bad]

What about the evidence of the meeting at the breakfast table, going to steal a bulldozer and make it bulletproof, then break all the other family members out of jail, once out of jail punishment to Mike DeWine, Charles Reader and Ryan Sherider and who ever witness this said GW4 was the loudest, Makes you wonder, if GEORGE WAGNER goes free, who will the next person be that he robbed, hurts or maybe kills????

 

[Willow Knight]

What about the evidence of the meeting at the breakfast table, going to steal a bulldozer and make it bulletproof, then break all the other family members out of jail, once out of jail punishment to Mike DeWine, Charles Reader and Ryan Sherider and who ever witness this said GW4 was the loudest, Makes you wonder, if GEORGE WAGNER goes free, who will the next person be that he robbed, hurts or maybe kills????

Yes. It isn't just AW and JW placing George 4 at the murders, it is also Beth testifying about George 4 conspiring with his family what to do if any of them were jailed. I don't believe George 4 committed the murders himself. I do believe George 4 conspired with his family to carry out these murders. Which is what George 4 is on trial for, I am not surprised George 4 took the stand, I will be shocked if he walks.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Yes. It isn't just AW and JW placing George 4 at the murders, it is also Beth testifying about George 4 conspiring with his family what to do if any of them were jailed. I don't believe George 4 committed the murders himself. I do believe George 4 conspired with his family to carry out these murders. Which is what George 4 is on trial for, I am not surprised George 4 took the stand, I will be shocked if he

GW4 is lying, he is a criminal one minute he says that he quit stealing fuel and off tractor and trailer but the next minute he and his uncle Chris pulls a insurance scam!!!! JMO

bodies that night also, JMO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Yes. It isn't just AW and JW placing George 4 at the murders, it is also Beth testifying about George 4 conspiring with his family what to do if any of them were jailed. I don't believe George 4 committed the murders himself. I do believe George 4 conspired with his family to carry out these murders. Which is what George 4 is on trial for, I am not surprised George 4 took the stand, I will be shocked if he walks.

Yes your right but GW4 helped move those bodies that night also, JMO

 

[Pru2U]

Imagine what all that evidence, photos, audio tapes & transcripts of 47 days of testimony looks like in the jury room.

Now imagine YOU are the jury foreman, where do you start?

 

[Skully67]

Imagine what all that evidence, photos, audio tapes & transcripts of 47 days of testimony looks like in the jury room.

Now imagine YOU are the jury foreman, where do you start?

Take a vote right off, see where people are. Then start with the witness testimonies.

 

[Pru2U]

Take a vote right off, see where people are. Then start with the witness testimonies.

Which witnesses? BCI? Family dynamics? Jake & Angela?