OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #79

[tlcya]

PIKE COUNTY, Ohio —

A town woke up one morning to the horror that eight people were brutally killed. The Rhoden family suffered an unthinkable loss eight times over on one late April night in 2016. And years would go by before an arrest was made, and the massacre of an entire family still haunts Pike County, Ohio to this day. On April 22, 2021 Edward Jake Wagner pleads guilty and agrees to testify against family members.

PRESSER: APRIL 27, 2016

Video Interview with Attorney General DeWine Published 8-13-16

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[Tiff23fr]

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Starting new thread for testimony in Wagner murder trial in Pike County. Also just learned appeals court ruled in media's favor allowing us to photograph and video any exhibit or evidence shown in court. It's up to us whether to publish or broadcast. Thanks
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[Tiff23fr]

Since you're here: Are we allowed to use information, etc from the Topix site since it's been mentioned a few times and elaborated on what it is in court and on the court records?
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[YaYa_521]

Continue the discussion here.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

IMO, Elizabeth Ann Wagner sealed George Wagner iv fate of, LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE SENTENCE with her testimony Friday, again JMO

 

[Pru2U]

I read last night the prosecution has approximately 2 more weeks of presentations. I don't know if that's based on a 6 hour day (and Court out Thursday) but I would think it's a good estimation.

I wonder how many witnesses the defense has. I'd really like to know if GW maintains friends outside the family. I'm talking actual friends, the kind you go out with, go hunting with, help each other with projects, sit around a bonfire. I know in her Montana interview, AW said she didn't have any friends she talked to on a regular basis. She said she was too busy with the grandkids and raising dogs (or something like that).

Yesterday, in E's testimony, she said they always went anywhere & everywhere as a group, even short trips to the corner market. I hope the jury caught that.

 

[Skully67]

I am looking forward to FW and RW on the stand.

JMHO,.....EAs testimony was truthful and powerful. I'm so glad she held it together and didn't let the defense rattle her. I agree with whoever said she set the tone for that interview.

I'd like to know what drew her to JW.

 

[SuziQ]

I read last night the prosecution has approximately 2 more weeks of presentations. I don't know if that's based on a 6 hour day (and Court out Thursday) but I would think it's a good estimation.

I wonder how many witnesses the defense has. I'd really like to know if GW maintains friends outside the family. I'm talking actual friends, the kind you go out with, go hunting with, help each other with projects, sit around a bonfire. I know in her Montana interview, AW said she didn't have any friends she talked to on a regular basis. She said she was too busy with the grandkids and raising dogs (or something like that).

Yesterday, in E's testimony, she said they always went anywhere & everywhere as a group, even short trips to the corner market. I hope the jury caught that.

Iirc, GW and Frankie Rhoden we're good friends. And we know what happened to Frankie. That hit me in the gut when I heard that. That's some top level betrayal. IMO.

 

[ohioexpat63]

There appears to be NO loyalty outside the W4 clan. As already mentioned, even the wives played second fiddle to the 4 Wagner clan murderers. They are incapable of forming true and lasting friendships, too paranoid of outsiders! Jmo

 

[arielilane]

Wow, EA, the perfect witness. Proud of EA and how she stood her ground. Powerful testimony. EA gave the jury a look into the lives of what it's like living with the Wagners, a living hell. Ws have no boundaries, no respect for others, no regard for others’ lives.



Desperate people do desperate things. No one and no body was going to get in the way of AW. This is how she lived her life and wasn’t about to stop or change it for anyone. A person like AW stops at nothing to get their way and make their point. Even murder.

AW characteristics:
Manipulative and cunning (exploit other people’s weaknesses)
Narcissist (believes they’re always right)
Lying (lies about everything, it is who they’re)
No real emotions (doesn’t feel any emotions)
Lack remorse (doesn’t feel bad about their actions)
Lack human attachment (no real intimate friendships/relationships)


All flaws. Unfortunately, I can’t say anything good about AW or any of the Ws for that matter.

IMO

 

[Niner]

Wow, EA, the perfect witness. Proud of EA and how she stood her ground. Powerful testimony. EA gave the jury a look into the lives of what it's like living with the Wagners, a living hell. Ws have no boundaries, no respect for others, no regard for others’ lives.



Desperate people do desperate things. No one and no body was going to get in the way of AW. This is how she lived her life and wasn’t about to stop or change it for anyone. A person like AW stops at nothing to get their way and make their point. Even murder.

AW characteristics:
Manipulative and cunning (exploit other people’s weaknesses)
Narcissist (believes they’re always right)
Lying (lies about everything, it is who they’re)
No real emotions (doesn’t feel any emotions)
Lack remorse (doesn’t feel bad about their actions)
Lack human attachment (no real intimate friendships/relationships)


All flaws. Unfortunately, I can’t say anything good about AW or any of the Ws for that matter.

IMO

Since you are around - will you be doing the tweets on Monday?

 

[Betty P]

Iirc, GW and Frankie Rhoden we're good friends. And we know what happened to Frankie. That hit me in the gut when I heard that. That's some top level betrayal. IMO.

I felt the worst about the children and EA's description of their treatment, their stress and trauma. It haunts me how damaged those children were. I hope they're in loving, positive homes now and have access to counseling. It tore me up thinking how upset Hanna would be if she knew her daughter was being beaten and badly traumatized.

S was never allowed to process her feelings about her mother's death, she was never allowed to mourn her. JMO, they all deserve the DP for that alone.

 

[arielilane]

Since you are around - will you be doing the tweets on Monday?

Yes, however, I will not be able to post any am tweets until around 12:00 pm ET.

 

[arielilane]

WAVERLY (WKRC) – The ex-wife of Jake Wagner testified to being “terrified” of the Wagner family and was looking to get away from them after Jake made dire threats against her and her family.

https://local12.com/news/local/wagner-trial-cincinnati-ohio-rhodens-gilley-murders-weapons-texts-jake-angela-billy-ammunition-hanna-bci-shoeprint-florida#?-fbpost

 

[Pru2U]

I felt the worst about the children and EA's description of their treatment, their stress and trauma. It haunts me how damaged those children were. I hope they're in loving, positive homes now and have access to counseling. It tore me up thinking how upset Hanna would be if she knew her daughter was being beaten and badly traumatized.

S was never allowed to process her feelings about her mother's death, she was never allowed to mourn her. JMO, they all deserve the DP for that alone.

Can you imagine moving into a world where reading to children is not allowed?

 

[Pru2U]

I am looking forward to FW and RW on the stand.

JMHO,.....EAs testimony was truthful and powerful. I'm so glad she held it together and didn't let the defense rattle her. I agree with whoever said she set the tone for that interview.

I'd like to know what drew her to JW.

I hope we get to hear GWs interview in Montana soon. I want to see and hear more info on GW.

And the shoe/foot expert. They had all that laid out yesterday, but I guess there was a change of plan. I hope we hear it Monday.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

What makes Jake Wagner smile when admitting guilty of shooting the women???? (CRAZY)