SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #14

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Rallibella said:
Been following this case for a long time but just found this thread. His defense is playing their case out in the court of public sympathy hoping to sway jurors. My sympathy is with the families of the murdered loved ones and all the victims he stole millions of dollars from.
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And those victims he stole from were so in need. I am absolutely disgusted with what happened to Hakeem Pinckney and Gloria Satterfield’s sons.
 
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NEW: AG Alan Wilson’s Office is responding to Alex Murdaugh’s request for the state’s motive in the murders of his wife and son. State calls the requested “bill of particulars” an outdated practice. Also says financial crimes evidence shows repeated bad behavior/bad actor.


State plans to introduce significant evidence from the financial crimes showing Murdaugh wasn’t the successful, upstanding and respected lawyer he portrayed himself as but instead as someone looking for their next theft, way to be one step ahead of the the theft and drug user.


Response also Murdaugh has looked to shift motives for the “brutal” murders of his wife and son from the beginning. Says Murdaugh told the first responding officer within “30 seconds” of arriving at murder scene, the motive in his mind was tied to the fatal 2019 boat crash.

State says Murdaugh was confronted by PMPED (we learned in Laffitte trial) on the day of the murders demanding an explanation for hundreds of thousands of missing dollars by the end of the day. Murdaugh was due in court days later for a hearing on his finances.

State says the murders of Maggie and Paul worked to buy Alex time to cover his financial crimes (stealing from his clients and PMPED) until a law firm staffer came across a check on September 2nd, 2021 which began the unraveling of Murdaugh’s schemes.


Filing says Murdaugh had been successful but “a series of bad land deals exacerbated by the recession permanently changed his finances.” State says Murdaugh then became dependent on stealing from clients, friends and family members along with taking loans from same people

State says Murdaugh used 4 schemes to steal: billing personal expenses to clients through PMPED accounts, stole from family/firm through erroneous checks, use Russell Laffitte and PSB to convert checks, or by using the fake “Forge” bank account Murdaugh had set up in 2015.



@WCBD
 
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sds71 said:
@RealRileyBenson

NEW: AG Alan Wilson’s Office is responding to Alex Murdaugh’s request for the state’s motive in the murders of his wife and son. State calls the requested “bill of particulars” an outdated practice. Also says financial crimes evidence shows repeated bad behavior/bad actor.


State plans to introduce significant evidence from the financial crimes showing Murdaugh wasn’t the successful, upstanding and respected lawyer he portrayed himself as but instead as someone looking for their next theft, way to be one step ahead of the the theft and drug user.


Response also Murdaugh has looked to shift motives for the “brutal” murders of his wife and son from the beginning. Says Murdaugh told the first responding officer within “30 seconds” of arriving at murder scene, the motive in his mind was tied to the fatal 2019 boat crash.

State says Murdaugh was confronted by PMPED (we learned in Laffitte trial) on the day of the murders demanding an explanation for hundreds of thousands of missing dollars by the end of the day. Murdaugh was due in court days later for a hearing on his finances.

@WCBD
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Yes that hearing was the Beach lawsuit, he was supposed to have had that in the previous meeting.

Since MM was staying at Edisto and shd was not involved in that lawsuit I don’t think she was aware of it. In order to pay off the Beach’s he had to get rid of the two things that were in his way.
MM’s estate being in Daddy’s name gave it all to him.

Jmo
 
sds71 said:
@RealRileyBenson

NEW: AG Alan Wilson’s Office is responding to Alex Murdaugh’s request for the state’s motive in the murders of his wife and son. State calls the requested “bill of particulars” an outdated practice. Also says financial crimes evidence shows repeated bad behavior/bad actor.


State plans to introduce significant evidence from the financial crimes showing Murdaugh wasn’t the successful, upstanding and respected lawyer he portrayed himself as but instead as someone looking for their next theft, way to be one step ahead of the the theft and drug user.


Response also Murdaugh has looked to shift motives for the “brutal” murders of his wife and son from the beginning. Says Murdaugh told the first responding officer within “30 seconds” of arriving at murder scene, the motive in his mind was tied to the fatal 2019 boat crash.

State says Murdaugh was confronted by PMPED (we learned in Laffitte trial) on the day of the murders demanding an explanation for hundreds of thousands of missing dollars by the end of the day. Murdaugh was due in court days later for a hearing on his finances.

State says the murders of Maggie and Paul worked to buy Alex time to cover his financial crimes (stealing from his clients and PMPED) until a law firm staffer came across a check on September 2nd, 2021 which began the unraveling of Murdaugh’s schemes.


Filing says Murdaugh had been successful but “a series of bad land deals exacerbated by the recession permanently changed his finances.” State says Murdaugh then became dependent on stealing from clients, friends and family members along with taking loans from same people

State says Murdaugh used 4 schemes to steal: billing personal expenses to clients through PMPED accounts, stole from family/firm through erroneous checks, use Russell Laffitte and PSB to convert checks, or by using the fake “Forge” bank account Murdaugh had set up in 2015.



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That sounds pretty shaky. Just proving that he is a crooked lawyer, one of many in a lot of people’s eyes, hardly proves that he shot 2 people. I think DH is way better than to just let the state paint a pic of a con artist and say he did it. That jury should be looking for the blood and guts evidence. The state will be presenting this case in an area where people don’t automatically trust the govt and with the cloud that’s over the system there anyway, the state needs a rock solid case. Just assuming a jury will see it the states way could cost big time.
 
worm said:
That sounds pretty shaky. Just proving that he is a crooked lawyer, one of many in a lot of people’s eyes, hardly proves that he shot 2 people. I think DH is way better than to just let the state paint a pic of a con artist and say he did it. That jury should be looking for the blood and guts evidence. The state will be presenting this case in an area where people don’t automatically trust the govt and with the cloud that’s over the system there anyway, the state needs a rock solid case. Just assuming a jury will see it the states way could cost big time.
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I don’t think this was proof he did it which I believe they have. It’s simply why he did it.
 
Rallibella said:
I don’t think this was proof he did it which I believe they have. It’s simply why he did it.
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That’s my concern. If they can sell the murder case to a local jury based on motive. Why he would/could have done this is hardly proof alone of murder and we can bet that AMs lawyers will play that to no end.
 
<snipped> States Response to Motive

A “perfect storm” of debts, drug abuse and the looming exposure of his numerous alleged financial crimes is what pushed a seemingly respectable Alex Murdaugh to kill his wife and son, according to a Thursday filing by the South Carolina Attorney General’s office.

The killings were a means to shift attention away from the impending discovery of his financial crimes, which would have resulted in “personal, legal, and financial ruin” for Murdaugh, the filling said.

Attorney Jim Griffin, who is representing Murdaugh, said he will respond to the state’s filing at a 2 p.m. Friday hearing in Colleton County. Murdaugh is expected to be in attendance.

“We will make our comments in court,” Griffin said.

‘Perfect storm’ of debts and looming exposure drove Murdaugh to kill, SC prosecutors say
 
Elley Mae said:
Yes that hearing was the Beach lawsuit, he was supposed to have had that in the previous meeting.

Since MM was staying at Edisto and shd was not involved in that lawsuit I don’t think she was aware of it. In order to pay off the Beach’s he had to get rid of the two things that were in his way.
MM’s estate being in Daddy’s name gave it all to him.

Jmo
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In fact, we learned during the Laffitte trial that Murdaugh was confronted about these payments by the top financial officer at his law firm earlier that day. Russell Laffitte’s brother – Charles Laffitte III – also testified during the federal trial that Alex Murdaugh told him he was having trouble getting his wife to agree to an appraisal date for their jointly owned Edisto Beach, S.C. residence.

Maggie Murdaugh was living at this home in the months leading up to her murder, and owned a “one-half, undivided fee-simple interest” in the property, according to county tax records. As I previously noted, this could point to a possible motive for Murdaugh to kill his wife – whom sources have previously told this news outlet was “lured” to the family compound by her husband on the night of her murder.

 
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Elley Mae said:
Later in the trial, Russell Laffitte’s brother – Charles Laffitte III – testified Alex Murdaugh told him he was having trouble getting Maggie Murdaugh to agree to an appraisal date for their jointly owned Edisto Beach, S.C. property.

Maggie Murdaugh was living at this home in the months leading up to her murder, and owned a “one-half, undivided fee-simple interest” in the property, according to county tax records. This is a potentially significant development as it could point to another motive for Alex Murdaugh to kill his wife – whom sources have previously told this news outlet was “lured” to the family compound by her husband on the night of her murder.


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I know different states have different laws regarding marital assets. In SC, is the property not 50% MM's by default, as it was purchased after their union? TIA
 
LetsSolvIt said:
Based on this paragraph (image of PDF, below) on page 12 of the State’s response to defense requesting a Bill of Particulars on motive, one might consider that Paul was not collateral damage — that MM was targeted for her estate and PM because he would provide a cover motive as retaliation for boat crash. MOO. MOO.

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Is this part and parcel to most cases, a Bill of Particulars on motive? TIA (Particularly since the state is not required to prove motive....)
 
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