The Case of JonBenet Ramsey-CBS Sept. 18 # 2

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  1. Heymom

    Heymom New Member

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    I have to think that Chief Kolar allowed this misinformation to be shown so as not to compromise the *actual* evidence. Otherwise, I was thoroughly confused and concerned that Spitz was allowed to push his pet theory about the Maglite. IF the general public doesn't know anything about the case, the autopsy, etc. then they will believe this hook, line, and sinker, and it just isn't true.
     
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    [e] wrong thread
     
  3. Linda7NJ

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    Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. Can you think of any object that would leave such a perfect punch out? Some type of specialized hammer end perhaps? A putter? A wood? Any object you've seen in crime scene photos of anything in the house?




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  4. Linda7NJ

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    What did her brain look like at autopsy? Any photos?


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  5. ThinkHard

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    What are you thinking? Something like maybe a golf club sideways? Like a putter or a ptching wedge?
     
  6. Heymom

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    Seems like cynic and otg did lots of experiments and posted them on FFJ. There was one particular object that resulted in a more oval-shaped hole, but I can't remember what it was at the moment. Otg, do you remember?
     
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    I could be wrong but when I watched the CBS show that when they were discussing the head wound they talked about the natural suchers(spelling) of the skull and where they fuse. It sounded to me like they described the wound along and to the right of these suchers and I'm no expert but I think that it could definitely account for the rectangular shape and not the crescent shape if you are hitting something that already has a crack/fissure whatever it's going to break along that crack. Idk if anyone understands what I'm saying lol but it makes sense to me especially since I think they said the skull isn't fully fused yet at that age.
     
  8. OliviaG1996

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    I don't think the theory of the Maglite flashlight being the murder weapon is a "pet theory" at all. IMO, the skull fracture is neither rectangular nor is it an ellipse. It's more in between, in my view. To say the shape of the fracture in the dummy skull shown on CBS didn't look eerily similar (not perfect, as shouldn't be expected) to the actual fracture is simply not true.
     
  9. PositiveLight

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    I've always thought it was strange how JR constantly insisted about the reason he put her death date as Christmas is he wanted people to remember she died on Christmas. But...the only way you would know this is if you were there when she passed away. Otherwise what the hell would it matter if she died on Christmas day or the day after. I mean isn't it more important to find her killer? Why does the date have to be the 25th when they were never sure of exact time of death. There basically was only two hours left on the 25th when they got home. It just seems fishy to me that he put it as the 25th. But now knowing that she won that beauty pageant, it damn sure makes me even more curious. This is the first time I knew she won that pageant. Just wow!

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  10. PositiveLight

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    Question. Does anyone know if these panties may have been wrapped with the other gifts in the wine cellar? If they were, maybe Patsy just tore open the package to change her quickly. Ease of access?

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  11. PositiveLight

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    It dang sure looks like it Nin!

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    homemade hair lightener that works like the Sun-In product?
     
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    John's bible was found on his desk opened to Psalms 35 and 36 and in his version the first letter of the first 4 verses read CTBS.

    It's about fighting the enemies of Christ.

    How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones Against the rock
    (Psalm 137:9)
     
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    In John's interviews he was asked to comment on bicycle tyre imprints photographed in the frost.

    I don't know what the weather was like on Christmas Day when JonBenet was playing out on her new bike, but I'm thinking the ground conditions were probably dry just because they might have thought it dangerous to let her practice on a new bigger bike if it was icy.

    Which leads me to believe someone had been out on their bike in the early hours of the 26th. I wonder where these tracks went to and if evidence like the weapon was being quietly removed to a spot far away from the house. Probably another reason why loads of people were invited over to create outside traffic and mess with tracks.
     
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    What do we know or think is missing from the house?

    JonBenet's black velvet pants?
    Rolls of duct tape and cord
    Gloves worn when writing the ransom note?
    Practice pages
    JonBenet's pink pyjama pants
    The cloth used to wipe her blood and the end of the paintbrush
    Whatever was used as a weapon?

    Anything else?
     
  16. PositiveLight

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    I think you are on to something. I just had the same idea about the panties being in the basement. Since they were meant for another girl in the family. Maybe it was the only thing on hand that wouldn't draw attention to the second staging. I was thinking PR did it but JR would also make sense and account for the time he was missing. PR would want her staged very elaborately. JR wouldn't want that. Especially considering the ransom note was so elaborate. I think JR would see quickly that it was too obvious and try to make it less elaborate plus give his daughter some dignity.

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    OliviaG1996,
    After watching the CBS show twice, and I have to watch episode one for the 911 call again. I reckon the flashlight might be a red herring, it was funny to hear one of the investigators tell spitz you normally use a flashlight to see where you are going, not whack people as BR did with the golf-club.

    That was the flashlights role, i.e. to allow the R's possibly including BR to navigate about the house. in the Dr Phil show BR agreed his dad or/and himself used the flashlight that night, BR certainly said he crept downstairs, on his own. So with no intruder involved, we might expect JR's prints on the flashlight, yet it was wiped clean, also if the parents were ignorant about the head blow, why bother wiping it clean?

    How about the blunt force weapon being a metal train carriage or similar from BR's bedroom?

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  18. OliviaG1996

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    The inconsistency of JR and BR's story of using a flashlight to put BR to bed, then using it to sneak downstairs to play with a new Christmas toy strikes me as unusual. There's lots of weird "stuff" surrounding the flashlight, which is one reason why I think it had something to do with JBR's death.

    I really like the idea of a metal train carriage being the possible murder weapon, too. Do you know if investigator's fully searched BR's room specifically for a blunt object?
     
  19. OliviaG1996

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    I'm on my tablet, and for some reason it won't allow me to post photos I've screenshotted. If you pause the following video at around :14, you'll see a photo of a bruised brain on the right-hand side. I'm assuming it's JonBenet's, but there's no way to be certain.

    [video=youtube;72p_NjCl4pE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72p_NjCl4pE&spfreload=10[/video]
     
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