Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher, 34, Abducted While Jogging, Memphis, 2022 *arrest* #5

[MajorHoople]

What exactly does this "doing away with cash bail" mean?
I read the article but I still do not understand
No bail before trial?

The idea of bonding can get really complicated. I think I've noticed your comments on the British threads. Do you live in Britain? I know it's done differently over there.

Basically the idea of a cash bond (also called a bail bond) is to ensure that a defendant shows up for a trial rather than going on the run and ignoring their trial.

Often a defendant who is charged with a petty crime will be released from jail without paying anything if they promise to show up for their trial. This is called a "personal recognizance bond".

For serious felony charges a cash bond (some states call it an "appearance bond") is required. For example, a person who has been accused of drunk driving might have a bond of $10,000 before they can get out of jail. If they have the money or can raise the money it makes sense to pay the bond so they are not languishing in jail waiting their trial date. Because our courts are backed up it might take a year.

Paying a bond is not an admission of guilt, nor is it a fine. The defendant will have their money returned to them at the conclusion of the trial whether they are found guilty or innocent.

It looks to me like Illinois is going to release most all defendants from jail if they merely promise to show up for their trial, even if those crimes are serious felonies rather than just petty crimes.

 

[Dotta]

The idea of bonding can get really complicated. I think I've noticed your comments on the British threads. Do you live in Britain? I know it's done differently over there.

Basically the idea of a cash bond (also called a bail bond) is to ensure that a defendant shows up for a trial rather than going on the run and ignoring their trial.

Often a defendant who is charged with a petty crime will be released from jail without paying anything if they promise to show up for their trial. This is called a "personal recognizance bond".

For serious felony charges a cash bond (some states call it an "appearance bond") is required. For example, a person who has been accused of drunk driving might have a bond of $10,000 before they can get out of jail. If they have the money or can raise the money it makes sense to pay the bond so they are not languishing in jail waiting their trial date. Because our courts are backed up it might take a year.

Paying a bond is not an admission of guilt, nor is it a fine. The defendant will have their money returned to them at the conclusion of the trial whether they are found guilty or innocent.

It looks to me like Illinois is going to release most all defendants from jail if they merely promise to show up for their trial, even if those crimes are serious felonies rather than just petty crimes.

Thank you
In fact, I live in central Europe, in Poland.
English is a foreign language for me.

We have a cash bond system in Poland as well.

So, it means that they want to abolish this system in Illinois, fearing it discriminates those who live in poverty, mainly black people.
That is what I understood - more or less.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Prison records show Cleotha Henderson committed 20 sex crimes behind bars, ‘couldn’t help’ exposing himself

During Cleotha Henderson’s 20-year prison sentence, for which he served after kidnapping an attorney at gunpoint, he racked up 53 infractions, including 19 indecent exposure violations.

www.actionnews5.com

This is beyond ridiculous.

 

[Seattle1]

We follow crime. We know there's no such thing as one size justice fits all. But I also think we need to educate others why no cash bail is a really bad idea.

Thousands of prisoners are set to be RELEASED from Illinois jails

Thousands of prisoners are set to be released across Illinois as it becomes the first state to do away with cash bail under the controversial SAFE-T Act.

www.dailymail.co.uk

In the US, individual states typically have a constitutional provision mirroring the federal Eighth Amendment prohibition on excessive bail.

There also are constitutional or statutory provisions that provide the “right to bail”—the right to be released from jail before trial after a defendant agrees to return for court.

Cash bail is an amount of money determined to be sufficient collateral to ensure an individual returns for their court appearances BUT ALSO REMAIN ARREST-FREE (i.e., not re-offend) while released from jail before the trial.

Generally, State Statutes provide that the Court shall have
discretion to set the amount of bail the defendant is required to post for release from jail.

One of the most vital factors influencing bail amount is the defendant's threat to the public, victims, and witnesses. If the judge feels that a person will compromise the public's safety, they may get a high bail amount or be held without bail.

In other words, by adopting a statute to do away with cash bail, Illinois, for example, is removing both the collateral and eliminating the discretion and authority given to the Judge to act in the interest of public safety.

IMO, the public is ill-served if legislators act to strip the Court from the duty to consider the following 7 factors generally considered when determining Bail. [ See link].

7 Factors Considered When Determining Bail

Whether you post cash bail, property bail, or use a bail bonds service, various factors determine how much you pay. Learn seven factors used when deciding bail.

www.bailbondspensacola.com

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[MadMcGoo]

Wouldn't he have to register as a sex offender upon his release due to these crimes committed during incarceration?

In my experience, no. I’m sure it varies by State and is dependent on the exact “crime” committed while incarcerated. You’d be surprised at the things inmates do inside that would be abhorrent and intolerable if done outside. Unless it was very serious and the DA was willing to pursue “free word charges”, the inmate usually just received a written disciplinary report to be filed away with the others. I imagine that was the case with this monster.

This is just my experience and opinion on the matter!

 

[Charlot123]

I am posting a link to the backlogged rape kits situation, state-by-state. In some, women have donated to end the backlogging. Anyhow, see where your state is. Hopefully you’ll find it helpful

https://www.endthebacklog.org/

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Oh, I read the abrasions and contusions part. I didn't see that he shattered her leg, too. He could have used the gun there also. Being pistol whipped can cause serious devastation. Or, as you said, you could have used the ground, the vehicle, or any other hard surface. MOO

I can't edit my post. I meant Or, as you said, HE could have used the ground. Sorry about that.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I am posting a link to the backlogged rape kits situation, state-by-state. In some, women have donated to end the backlogging. Anyhow, see where your state is. Hopefully you’ll find it helpful

https://www.endthebacklog.org/

Very interesting info. Thank you for posting.

 

[girlhasnoname]

This is beyond ridiculous.

Agreed, a highly predatory sexual offender IMO. Considering his young age of criminal acts and the highly aggravated nature, why oh why was this guy released???

 

[BeckyF]

We follow crime. We know there's no such thing as one size justice fits all. But I also think we need to educate others why no cash bail is a really bad idea.

Thousands of prisoners are set to be RELEASED from Illinois jails

Thousands of prisoners are set to be released across Illinois as it becomes the first state to do away with cash bail under the controversial SAFE-T Act.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I could be in IL in 15 minutes. We in St. Louis already have a high crime rate. I suppose we should be prepared for more criminals running the streets when this law goes into effect.

 

[weedemout]

He's still getting special treatment... He should be shackled from head to toe!

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I could be in IL in 15 minutes. We in St. Louis already have a high crime rate. I suppose we should be prepared for more criminals running the streets when this law goes into effect.

What "genius" thought this SAFE-T Act was a good idea? He or she should be permanently selected as the one to make death notifications to the families of innocent victims. MOO SMH

 

[MajorHoople]

Eliza Fletcher murder suspect’s case moves to grand jury

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WREG) — The man accused of kidnapping and killing Memphis mother Eliza Fletcher waived his preliminary hearings Wednesday, the Shelby County District Attorney’s Office said. T…

wreg.com

Oct 19, 2022

"The man accused of kidnapping and killing Memphis mother Eliza Fletcher waived his preliminary hearings Wednesday, the Shelby County District Attorney’s Office said.

That means a grand jury will now consider the charges against Cleotha Abston-Henderson. If indicted, the case will move to criminal court.

Abston-Henderson is being held without bond pending indictment. He is charged with first-degree murder, especially aggravated kidnapping and tampering with evidence in Fletcher’s death."

 

[weedemout]

is there another thread? or is there no more news?

 

[truetexan]

Next court date 11/04/2022 09:00 Inmate Lookup Tool

 

[truetexan]

Does CAH have TWO murder charges?

 

[truetexan]

Inmate Lookup Tool

 

[steeltowngirl]

Does CAH have TWO murder charges?

I see what you are seeing. Several of the charges are listed twice with different case numbers and an “H” in front of the number. I am thinking this is some type of way they code the cases?

Charge Information
Case #	Offense Date	Code	Description	Grade	Degree
C2205618	09/21/2021	21027	AGGRAVATED RAPE	FA
C2205618	09/21/2021	21265	ESPECIALLY AGGRAVATED KIDNAPPING	FA
C2205618	09/21/2021	27221	UNLAWFUL CARRYING OR POSSESSION OF A WEAPON	FB
22018307	09/05/2022	27000	THEFT OF PROPERTY $1000 OR LESS	MA
C2205619	09/03/2022	27221	UNLAWFUL CARRYING OR POSSESSION OF A WEAPON	FB
22018222	09/04/2022	21265	ESPECIALLY AGGRAVATED KIDNAPPING	FA
22018222	09/04/2022	21137	TAMPERING WITH/FABRICATING EVIDENCE	FC
22018222	09/04/2022	21015	FIRST DEGREE MURDER	FM
22018270	09/05/2022	22322	IDENTITY THEFT	FD
22018270	09/05/2022	27000	THEFT OF PROPERTY $1000 OR LESS	MA
22018270	09/05/2022	27025	FRD USE/ILL POSS CREDIT/DEBIT CARD $1000 OR LESS	MA
H2204591	09/04/2022	21265	ESPECIALLY AGGRAVATED KIDNAPPING	FA
H2204591	09/04/2022	21137	TAMPERING WITH/FABRICATING EVIDENCE	FC
H2204591	09/04/2022	21015	FIRST DEGREE MURDER	FM
H2204592	09/05/2022	22322	IDENTITY THEFT	FD
H2204592	09/05/2022	27000	THEFT OF PROPERTY $1000 OR LESS	MA
H2204592	09/05/2022	27025	FRD USE/ILL POSS CREDIT/DEBIT CARD $1000 OR LESS	MA
H2204593	09/05/2022	27000	THEFT OF PROPERTY $1000 OR LESS	MA

Hearing

 

[truetexan]

I noticed this a few days ago and thought maybe I would take another look at the case numbers this evening. Not sure what to make of it....

 

[JayLee#99]

I am posting a link to the backlogged rape kits situation, state-by-state. In some, women have donated to end the backlogging. Anyhow, see where your state is. Hopefully you’ll find it helpful

https://www.endthebacklog.org/

Thank you for posting this!