Don't quote me on this, lol, but I think there was a total of 11 witnesses for the DT.
And how many of those 11 won't be testifying now because of 'scheduling conflicts'?
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Don't quote me on this, lol, but I think there was a total of 11 witnesses for the DT.
Even though he was standing outside when the Standers arrived.
I'm pretty sure his true version would be useful.
It tells us much about how much Frank is likely to know, but also knows only too well 'the lie of the land' IMO.
How does logic tell us that? She estimated about five minutes between hearing the calls for help and the phone call that was received from Oscar, and she was awake for a short time before that. The phone call from Oscar came about two minutes after the second set of sounds. I think logic suggests that she was awoken before the second set of sounds and didn't hear them because she was some distance away and by that time had closed her balcony door. This might be further support for the second sounds being bat strikes as one might expect gun shots to be heard even in that circumstance by a person who was already awake.
You can't keep someone alive who's already dead and has brain matter entangled in their hair. Instead of getting towels, it would have been more useful if she had turned on some lights so she could see what was going on.
Very good and deep point.
And was it not Stander who got Dr Stipp's phone number then and there which led [just a few hours later] with the call that said Mr Pistorius' lawyers will be contacting you shortly, as soon as Dr Stipp got to work?
With Reeva still lying dead in the house, OP was on the phone to his friend Jivaris, the expensive car "magnate", whose upscale cars OP borrowed but claimed to others were his own. He wanted Jivaris to get to his house asap, I can only imagine why. I've read that Jivaris and his wife/gf have distanced themselves from OP since.
Does anyone have the layout of Oscar's home and where Frank stayed? Was he inside the house or in an outhouse?
Does anyone have the layout of Oscar's home and where Frank stayed? Was he inside the house or in an outhouse?
BBM - He said he had OP over for coffee from time to time, but he never had OP over for dinner, never went out for a drink with him, never had a long conversation with him, and did not know him in a social capacity. BUT, he was the first person OP called after shooting Reeva and he also went to her memorial at his uncle's house.
He minimized his relationship with OP. This makes him not credible. He clearly downplayed how close they are because wanted to come across as an unbiased witness.
I get the feeling that Frank was a bit of a caretaker in name only.
It appears that OP looked after him quite well, but the guy didn't really do much, as you can see from the house repairs that needed doing.
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http://www.enca.com/south-africa/oscar-trial-estate-manager-weeps-he-testifies
"“He was torn apart. Broken. Desperate. Pleading…. And his commitment to save the young lady’s life… How he begged her to stay with him, how he begged God to keep her alive,” Stander said, weeping...."
BBM;
Who talks like that instead of decribing what he saw?
That sounds rehearsed and disingenuous.
MOO
So....if Frank resided on the property why did Stander need the keys to come feed the dogs or whatever...
No but it's for sale. You have to send a $5,000 deposit just to see pictures of it.
He did some magazine interviews at his house, you might be able to see some older pictures of it that way.
Agreed. The language used is emotive, but where is the evidence of his commitment to save the young lady's life? It would have been better to given an example to support this claim IMO.
BBM - totally agree. Why would he be the first person OP called after murdering Reeva if he wasn't more than a casual acquaintance? And who invites someone they're not involved with socially to a private memorial for their dead girlfriend? I call BS on Stander's description of their relationship.