Gosh! How interesting it is that we see this differently. I don't see her as entitled at all. What I do see is naivety in the way that the world really works.
rbbm
''She is estranged from her family, and has made a series of allegations against them.
Constance Marten 'plotted to smuggle baby to Europe'
Constance Marten claimed her wealthy family had wrongly accused her of bearing children to sell on the black marketwww.standard.co.uk
“My family have a lot of money, a lot of clout, and a lot of connections”, she said. “That’s how they were able to do what they did.”
Referring to previous court proceedings, she said: “They said I was bearing children to sell on the black market, that I was a drug addict”, adding that these were “allegations that were wholly unfounded”.
Will we likely find out if this is indeed the accusation that was made against her in the family court? And any basis for this assertion? I suspect not, sadly.rbbm
''She is estranged from her family, and has made a series of allegations against them.Constance Marten 'plotted to smuggle baby to Europe'
Constance Marten claimed her wealthy family had wrongly accused her of bearing children to sell on the black market
“My family have a lot of money, a lot of clout, and a lot of connections”, she said. “That’s how they were able to do what they did.”
Referring to previous court proceedings, she said: “They said I was bearing children to sell on the black market, that I was a drug addict”, adding that these were “allegations that were wholly unfounded”.
Yes, that is the way I understood it too.
I'm sure he doesn't want anyone to interpret his advice as meaning that witnesses should consider consequences for themselves before they state the whole truth in court.
would you like to expand on this?
But she said her family had not wanted to buy her a house while she was in a relationship with Mr Gordon.
I had to escape oppressive and bigoted family, Constance Marten tells court
Constance Marten has insisted she had to escape because of her “oppressive and bigoted family”, a court heard.www.telegraph.co.uk
So she was offered a house then, but turned it down. The same year she had her first child. Didn’t she say yesterday that the trust wouldn’t buy her a house?
But Mr Smith said she had also been offered a house in early 2017 but had declined it just before contracts were due to be exchanged.
I had to escape oppressive and bigoted family, Constance Marten tells court
Constance Marten has insisted she had to escape because of her “oppressive and bigoted family”, a court heard.
SBM - IMO, I do not think she does - not on a conscious level anyway. IMO, she believes that if she can prove her case, the adoption(s) will be undone.
I will be very surprised if there are 'receipts'.
One of the experts (if think it was MGs defence), said the placenta was that of a full term pregnancy. I also think she was full term looking at the CCTV images in the kebab house.
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I agree. And I am therefore wondering if this is because a) they thoughts it was mad, despite being true or b)knew it to be untrue and therefore when she spoke with her first barristers and told them what she thought they told her they were not prepared to represent her with this basis of defence. Which is why not of this was put forward by defence barrister, but the madness is all coming out now but with nothing to support it. (I am interested in how the judge will direct the jury in respect of this evidence given it is only her saying it with no record provided to prove it - assuming there isn't any, although I eagerly await the evidence if true and it exists).
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Most of it is not relevant to the case IMO.CM today: "Referring to previous court proceedings, she said: 'They said I was bearing children to sell on the black market, that I was a drug addict', adding that these were 'allegations that were wholly unfounded'."
The question of whether or not they did say either of those things is relevant. Who said them? When? To whom? Do they admit it? Can both they and the person to whom they allegedly said it come to court? What record is there? What do SS records say?
It would be good if the jury could hear from Napier Marten. To appraise his handle on reality, it may be useful to look at what he says about whales.
I have got a copy of the film he made, but I haven't watched it yet. What he says about whales may be sensible for all I know. Or it may be completely loopy. It would be interesting to know whether drug use was involved in the experience that enlightened him. Here is the Daily Mail's take:
'A voice told me to shave my head and go to Australia': Epiphany of heir to £115m country estate who gave up fortune to go whale watching
Napier Marten has given up the Crichel Estate in Dorset and the £115million family fortune to explore alternative therapies and explore his subconscious.www.dailymail.co.uk
Also: "There is a large underground network of parents who have been through the services. The problem is knowing who to trust."
Constance Marten 'plotted to smuggle baby to Europe'
Constance Marten claimed her wealthy family had wrongly accused her of bearing children to sell on the black market
Quite true. By now it will be infiltrated for sure.
Fascinating that this is coming out under cross-examination but didn't when she was questioned by her own side.
The reason for her falling out with so many barristers may possibly be that they didn't want her to say this kind of thing.
