Someone upthread mentioned a lighter. I can envision only using one hand when handling a lighter.That part doesn't hang right for me. Both of them only used one hand?
Say it's a phial or container, but any unfamiliar thing, really. You turn it round/over to see what it is. For me it's natural to use both hands. One to steady, and one to turn. It would take effort to use one. Even if it was dirty.
Someone upthread mentioned a lighter. I can envision only using one hand when handling a lighter.
Just a thought.
Like others have said, this incident does remind me of the tainted Tylenol case from years ago. Not exactly the same in terms of details, but the same vibe.
jmo
This just gets weirder and weirder.The BBC reported that they both showed signs of contamination on one hand each. Was it perhaps a large item they picked up together? (But if large, what happened to it?)
Little kids might pick something up. Scary thought.
jmo
Accepting an advertisement flyer, money, bottle of water/ beer, cigarette - shaking someone's (gloved) hand, turning on a water drinking fountain, flushing a toilet, pressing an elevator button, opening a door???That’s an interesting detail. Even though using a lighter is a one handed job, I still find it hard believe that neither would have handled a lighter with one hand only. Not to mention repeated use of a lighter.
Any other ideas of an interaction with something that both would only use one hand for?
Yes. My comment was in reply to a a previous post.Well, anybody could be picking it up, since they seem to have no clue as to what it was.
Neither of these would work if they are claiming this was poison left from Skripals poisoning.Accepting an advertisement flyer, money, bottle of water/ beer, cigarette - shaking someone's (gloved) hand, turning on a water drinking fountain, flushing a toilet, pressing an elevator button, opening a door???
speculation, imo.
rbbmWell, anybody could be picking it up, since they seem to have no clue as to what it was.
Snipped by me."Salisbury Hospital, where the Skripals were treated, said Tuesday that Rowley has experienced a "small but significant improvement" and is now conscious. The 45-year old is in critical but stable condition.
That’s an interesting detail. Even though using a lighter is a one handed job, I still find it hard believe that neither would have handled a lighter with one hand only. Not to mention repeated use of a lighter.
Any other ideas of an interaction with something that both would only use one hand for?
Novichok victim Dawn Sturgess wore 'contaminated' sunglasses found in park before collapsing
"NOVICHOK victim Dawn Sturgess wore sunglasses she found in a park hours before collapsing.
Cops are still trying to find a case they think held the nerve agent that killed her."
"Craig Pattenden, 38, and Sam Hobson, 29, were with them when they took a bus from Salisbury to Amesbury on Friday evening. Sam, from Amesbury, said: “She found some sunglasses on Friday and started wearing them.
“On the bus back she was saying to me and Craig, ‘Do you like my new sunglasses? I found them’. I think it was in the park.”
Dawn and Charlie were known to pick up cigarette butts. But it is thought Novichok on a discarded *advertiser censored* from the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in March would have degraded."
As others have pointed out, really anyone can potentially come in to contact with the item in question since authorities appear to only be speculating based on likely delivery methods that it is a vial or syringe or something similar that they are looking for.rbbm
Family of woman killed by novichok nerve agent speak out for the first time
"Public Health England has advised people in the Amesbury and Salisbury areas not to “pick up any foreign object which could contain liquid or gel, in the interests of their own safety''
Chief Medical Officer Dame Sally Davies said: “This in practice means do not pick up containers, syringes, needles, cosmetics or similar objects, made of materials such as metal, plastic or glass.
“This is particularly important as families are starting to prepare for their children's summer holidays and so I am asking that people are extra vigilant. To be clear: do nsot pick up anything that you haven't dropped yourself.”
Whether tied to the Russians or not (afaik, no hard evidence, per NPR broadcast I heard yesterday), the slapdash, sloppy and careless handling of the poisoning agent (if that is, in fact the case) can be compared to the mission to assassinate Alexander Litvinenko in 2006.
They left polonium trails all over London, and apparently disposed of "extra" radioactive materials by tossing them down the drain in hotels!
This is a fabulous podcast episode that gives a blow-by-blow of the bungling Russian agents' movements (and subsequent physical evidence trails). It's from"The Murder Mile True Crime Podcast." I recommend this podcast to any true crime fans who appreciate a deep dive and an engaging narrative style.
For a quick overview, scroll down to "Polonium Trails" in this wiki article:
Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko - Wikipedia