UT -Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City, 6 Dec 2009 - #4
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So according to this new article, Josh was either in WVC or lying about it, either we he took two hours. The police will know when he took that call, if he was in WVC or not. If he was, he was disposing of evidence, cleaning up, or just driving around going "OMG OMG OMG!" I'll bet.
And he was just driving around? Does that make any sense at all?!?! This guy is waaaaaay dumb. The fact he has managed to evade arrest thus far is purely dumb luck IMO.
And he was just driving around? Does that make any sense at all?!?! This guy is waaaaaay dumb. The fact he has managed to evade arrest thus far is purely dumb luck IMO.
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Petersen said friends and family members tried several times to call Josh on his cell phone Dec. 7. When he finally answered, Petersen said Josh didn't seem very panicked when they told him Susan was missing and no one had any idea where she was.
"They told him, 'The police are here at your house. You might want to come home.' It took him two hours. When we asked him where he had been, he just said, 'I've been driving around West Valley City.' It took him two hours to get home. He wasn't in a big hurry to get home and find his wife, he just I don't know. It's a really crappy situation," Petersen said.
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Another church member helped police get into the house shortly after Susan's disappearance, Petersen said. He later told Petersen he saw two fans aimed at a wet spot on the carpet in the front room. There were toys also scattered around the floor, he said.
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and the bingo snip:
Petersen said the Powell's marriage counselor instructed Susan to set specific goals. Susan told Josh that her goal was for him to become active in the church again by the end of 2009 and to have his temple recommend again by their anniversary in the spring, otherwise she was going to divorce him and take the children, Petersen said.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...his-time-getting-home-neighbor-says.html?pg=2
"They told him, 'The police are here at your house. You might want to come home.' It took him two hours. When we asked him where he had been, he just said, 'I've been driving around West Valley City.' It took him two hours to get home. He wasn't in a big hurry to get home and find his wife, he just I don't know. It's a really crappy situation," Petersen said.
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Another church member helped police get into the house shortly after Susan's disappearance, Petersen said. He later told Petersen he saw two fans aimed at a wet spot on the carpet in the front room. There were toys also scattered around the floor, he said.
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and the bingo snip:
Petersen said the Powell's marriage counselor instructed Susan to set specific goals. Susan told Josh that her goal was for him to become active in the church again by the end of 2009 and to have his temple recommend again by their anniversary in the spring, otherwise she was going to divorce him and take the children, Petersen said.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...his-time-getting-home-neighbor-says.html?pg=2
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So we're to believe she shampooed the carpet but didn't pick up the toys, huh?
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A temple recommend is a card (from what I've researched for another case here @ WS)....here's an example.
http://packham.n4m.org/recomm.htm
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did you guys SEE THAT!!! She was going to leave him if he didn't have his temple reccomend by their anniversary in April..
Wonder if him not attending church that Sunday was what caused the argument????
Wonder if him not attending church that Sunday was what caused the argument????
It is actually a piece of paper, signed by you and your bishop/stake president. It shows the date you received it, and the date it expires. You show it when you enter the temple. You can't get in without it.
He would have had to have one to get married.
Just to make sure I'm clear, I'm really not trying to bring religion into any discussions on this, other than to answer basic questions to add insight into the situation. I am trying to avoid anything that could be construed as overstepping my bounds.
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Tim Petersen is a neighbor of the Powells and a member of their LDS Church ward. He and his wife are good friends with Susan, and Tim has helped Susan with her marriage counseling.
Not sure if this means he is a counselor or just helped her in some way. Makes me wonder if he had to call the police on Josh for a threat of violence towards Susan or actual violence.
If that is the case then the counseling should have been forget this, get out now.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...his-time-getting-home-neighbor-says.html?pg=2
Not sure if this means he is a counselor or just helped her in some way. Makes me wonder if he had to call the police on Josh for a threat of violence towards Susan or actual violence.
If that is the case then the counseling should have been forget this, get out now.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...his-time-getting-home-neighbor-says.html?pg=2
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It is actually a piece of paper, signed by you and your bishop/stake president. It shows the date you received it, and the date it expires. You show it when you enter the temple. You can't get in without it.
He would have had to have one to get married.
Just to make sure I'm clear, I'm really not trying to bring religion into any discussions on this, other than to answer basic questions to add insight into the situation. I am trying to avoid anything that could be construed as overstepping my bounds.
DomCasual
Could you explain Temples, Stakes and Wards for people. That might help people to follow along with these terms as they are used.
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I am sure LE is loving the pressure that Peterson is putting on Joshy.
I bet he is absolutely LIVID.
And I also bet he is following the developments on line, being the ITT control freak he is.
I am so glad Mr. Peterson is dishing to the media!
I bet he is absolutely LIVID.
And I also bet he is following the developments on line, being the ITT control freak he is.
I am so glad Mr. Peterson is dishing to the media!
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IMO, then HE KNOWS allot about the dark side of JOSH!!!
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OT but are guys in Utah getting that storm? It is supposed to be in Kansas, where I am, tomorrow
Back On the topic,
DomCasual, I am very interested to learn how the religion works as well. If Mr. Peterson were helping with her counseling what would that mean? And also, what is the process of getting a temple reccommend? Do you have to go to church every weeK, etc? Would the counseling be part of it???
Is it possible that Mr. Peterson was "sponsoring" or "mentoring" Susan during her counseling? Is that a possibility?
TIA
Back On the topic,
DomCasual, I am very interested to learn how the religion works as well. If Mr. Peterson were helping with her counseling what would that mean? And also, what is the process of getting a temple reccommend? Do you have to go to church every weeK, etc? Would the counseling be part of it???
Is it possible that Mr. Peterson was "sponsoring" or "mentoring" Susan during her counseling? Is that a possibility?
TIA
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HLN, Mike Galanes will be talking more about Susan's case in a few minutes
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If Tim is a friend and not a professional counselor than by law he will be able to tell all!!!!
Also how much is a rental car at the airport?
How much does a gallon of gas cost in Utah area???
Also how much is a rental car at the airport?
How much does a gallon of gas cost in Utah area???
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I wonder if Joshy is reading here ?!!! :wave: :gavel:
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this is HUGE! This fact entering the main stream media that she had an ultimatum.. an actual DATE and plan on which to leave him and the conditions... that he had to get a reccommend and wasn't going to church and missing counseling.... wow...
It makes me think that he somehow found out about this.
It gives motive doesn't it!
It makes me think that he somehow found out about this.
It gives motive doesn't it!
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Does anyone think Josh will come back from WA ?
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