VA - Bethany Stephens, 21, mauled to death by her 2 dogs, Dec 2017

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  1. Soulmagent

    Soulmagent Well-Known Member

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    I cannot count this as an example of unprovoked. There is not enough information to concluded that. Do not leave toddlers alone with small kids. Kids are mean to animals. Not on purpose but becuase they are learning. Often times so is the animal.
     


  2. rsd1200

    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    People who want, or have, children should rethink if they are looking to get a pit. It just seems they have very low tolerance levels compared to almost any other breed (well, maybe except a Chihuahua, but it would take a pack of 50 Chis, to do much damage). I have never, out of all of the dogs I've owned in my life, had a single one of my dogs, be aggressive toward/or attack, me, or my family (and I've had a lot of dogs in my lifetime).
     
  3. rsd1200

    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    She was only 12 months old. The pit mix I had as a child was a biter but even he didn't latch onto folk's heads. As far as a 12 month old hurting them? I saw that pit mix of ours get kicked by a horse, that horse sailed his butt half way across the barn lot, b/c he'd ran up and grabbed the horse's tail. He picked himself up, shook off the dust, and trotted off. He didn't grab the horse's tail anymore though.
     
  4. evelezrn

    evelezrn Registered Nurse

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    O/T, but the mental picture of "a pack of 50 chis" made me literally laugh out loud.
     
  5. rsd1200

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    O/T Stephen King could write a novel about a pack of those little guys! Temperamental little buggers.
     
  6. Trident

    Trident Well-Known Member

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    No, them little buggers aren't "temperamental", they're fear biters because they are so small. My daughter has two of them, one is fairly nice, while the other one is scared of it's own shadow and would bite himself if he was startled. The other one goes along with him, egging him on, and now you have two little monsters capable of biting your ankles and trying to drag you down by your pantlegs. They yap and they snarl, trying to keep the world at bay, to keep the world from hurting them. This pair, especially the smallest one, have bitten a lot of people, some badly, including my daughter. I, however, have never been bitten by them even though I have dog sat many times. I believe them when they growl/show teeth and say "I will bite you". I back off. They believe me when I say "you will only bite me once". So far we have a truce. I would never allow a dog of mine to act that way. Thank God they ain't bigger.
     
  7. JaneEyre

    JaneEyre Kindness matters - always

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    I don't know that they are all fear biters. My first encounter with a chi was one getting off his leash and chasing me down while I was walking in order to attack me. I was nowhere near him, so he had no reason to fear bite. IMO, most chis and a lot of other little dogs are born arsholes and their owners make it worse by either getting a kick out of it or just not dealing with it because they don't think they can really hurt someone. I tend to ignore them when I meet them. If they want to be nice dogs, I'll be nice back. But I don't go out of my way to pet them like I do with big dogs. I'll hug your rottie as soon as I can, but I'll keep my distance from your chi, thank you very much.

    My mom almost adopted one and I put the kabosh on that pretty quickly because I am not helping her with it. She later got a big old loving mutt.

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  8. rsd1200

    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    Hers may be fear biters (you can help a dog who has that problem), but most are temperamental. My ex brought one home and I said, he had to take full care of it b/c I wasn't fooling with the dog, and he took it back. My neighbor's Chi bit my mother and she was just standing there, doing nothing. They don't know that they are small. Just as my Rott doesn't know she is large. She thinks she can fit on the recliner, with me, on my lap. I don't allow it, but she will still try to inch her way up on a rare occasion.

    I've been babysitting a small dog, for family, this past week, and it took a liking to the Rott's huge bed and tried to make her move. The Rott didn't like that and growled at the smaller dog. The small dog did not back down, and growled back. It was turning into a standoff. Neither know their size, so I just separated them, for precaution.
     
  9. Dkamplain

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    Ah you sound like me🤗 I love me a BIG dog! Ive had dogs all my life and had about some interaction with about every major breed there is! Right now i think my fav is what i have: a Great Pyrenees, red heeler and i have a puppy thats a mix of the two... i have a wishlist of dogs that includes like an irish wolfhound and mastiff for example! Bigger is better! I had a wonderful pomeranian and a wonderful maltipoo and totally agree on the chi's🙄 My mom in law had 12 at one time🙏🏻😬 i know i think differently than most people as i carry on full discussions with my heeler and ask him to remind me of things sometimes😜 And my GP is in training as my service dog. I TRUST and KNOW these dogs! Ive been around dobermans and had a couple of rottweilers as my was younger. My kid even required stitches in her face at 3 because a jack russell terrier bit her due to a sitter not watching what was going on but i dont the dog completely for that. In fact the only canine i have only actively campaigned to get rid of was a husky/wolf that was double bred back so he was like 99% wolf... now i did NOT trust that dog! You could see the wheels working trying to see how to trick us😱
     
  10. wgram

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    That does seem odd and there was no mention of where her clothes were. My daughter just got a lab mixed with pit. Its just over 1 year old. I worry about it since i have a 5 year old grandchild. She wont listen to me and i worry everyday. But back to the case though. She had taken the dogs to her fathers. It was mentioned in online reports that he didnt take care of the dogs. If you look at her FB you will see she was married at one point. Nothings been mentioned about it, so i assume it doesnt play a role in her death. I hate this happened to her. Moo

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  11. GeorgiaSuzy

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    Jeez, that pit bull puppy was only 6 weeks old. That seems like NATURE not NURTURE to me. Each dog breed has their specialty, ie herding, retrieving, rat-catching. Pits were selectively bred to handle or bait bulls, bears, fight each other, etc. Respect each breed for their specialty, don't ignore it.
     
  12. Blondie in Spokane

    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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