AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #10

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I am still catching up on this case so bear with me if I am missing something. I read at the beginning of this thread that radaronline is now permitted as MSM so I looked it up.
I am confused by the statement from the FBI source they that are "100%" certain she is alive.
Am I missing something, and what are the implications of this statement?

FBI Source Reveals Bombshell: 'We Know 100 Percent' That Jayme Closs Is Alive
 
DocBrew said:
Just seems to me that honing in on 2 specific cars is on purpose. I'm thinking that every time they saw one on camera, they saw the other in close proximity, which would be a rather remarkable coincidence. Not an impossible coincidence, of course, but it would be remarkable.

JMO.
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I'm under the impression that these two cars were the only ones seen in the area around the time of the crime and so they are looking for both to question the owners. I highly doubt two cars were used. MOO
 
SharonNeedles said:
I wish I could, but I’m on my iPad and the pic is in the Mail Online app. Not sure how to do that!

ETA: I figured it out.

Jayme Closs' neighbors heard two gunshots 20 minutes before 911 call


Jayme Closs' neighbors heard two gunshots 20 minutes before 911 call was made | Daily Mail Online
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In the article you posted above this caught my eye:
'Based on video cameras from businesses and homes we have identified two vehicles near the Closs' home near the time of the incident,' Fitzgerald said.
 
rainynights said:
Great find. Jumping off your post, I did some searching via Google, and IMO the bag looks pretty similar to this metal detector carrying case:
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1616901 Garrett Soft Case, Universal Detector

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Jayme Closs' neighbors heard two gunshots 20 minutes before 911 call was made | Daily Mail Online

As for the rakes, perhaps they were used by LE to aid in some additional searches around the property. MOO
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Metal detectors fits with the rakes for their equipment. I wonder how many spent rounds they found outside the house? This seems to confirm that the perp was standing outside and fired at the door. Casings would have gone in the bushes and all over the porch area. JMO.
 
rainynights said:
Great find. Jumping off your post, I did some searching via Google, and IMO the bag looks pretty similar to this metal detector carrying case:
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1616901 Garrett Soft Case, Universal Detector

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Jayme Closs' neighbors heard two gunshots 20 minutes before 911 call was made | Daily Mail Online

As for the rakes, perhaps they were used by LE to aid in some additional searches around the property. MOO
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Cases similar to the Garrett case are purchased for expensive assault rifles. They are used to take your assault rifle to the range because they are huge and have multiple pockets which hold a lot of ammo. (I have a BDT Bulldog case similar to the one in the photo.) I hate to think that this killer now has possession of their assault rifle or rifles.
 
I feel more positive tonight that the police are on top of whatever is going down here. I hope I'm right. I'm very impressed with their professionalism around press releases on this case. I do want to know more about why NONE of her family chooses to speak. That is unusual to me. So glad they have this car lead. Hoping they find what they are looking for tomorrow.
 
I think James may have had his gun at door...was shot, perp took both guns away with him.

Also...though the DM is insane with headlines, etc they are often proved right in crime cases...much more so than Nancy G. Jmo
 
Don't punch me. I'm looking for help with my opening post in relation to a few things that have been discussed over and over (chair, doors, suitcase) in hopes we can reduce the amount of rehashing. I will ask that you PM me so it doesn't interrupt the thread. What I'm looking for are links to sources of stills or videos of these items, and a couple sentences summarizing what has been speculated on the threads about them. Maybe relevant posts from prior threads where someone did a particularly good analysis that I could link to. TIA
 
Memphis Bluez said:
I feel more positive tonight that the police are on top of whatever is going down here. I hope I'm right. I'm very impressed with their professionalism around press releases on this case. I do want to know more about why NONE of her family chooses to speak. That is unusual to me. So glad they have this car lead. Hoping they find what they are looking for tomorrow.
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Because they are speaking through the Sheriff

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=266425757343942
 
Johnny1181 said:
I am still catching up on this case so bear with me if I am missing something. I read at the beginning of this thread that radaronline is now permitted as MSM so I looked it up.
I am confused by the statement from the FBI source they that are "100%" certain she is alive.
Am I missing something, and what are the implications of this statement?

FBI Source Reveals Bombshell: 'We Know 100 Percent' That Jayme Closs Is Alive
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They may be allowed, but their reporting is often questionable. I read nothing into this statement, as there is no possible way that anyone could know that’s she is alive.

Odds are, she probably isn’t.
 
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Let’s not discount anyone at this point and let’s find Jayme.
 
Gunslinging Granny said:
Cases similar to the Garrett case are purchased for expensive assault rifles. They are used to take your assault rifle to the range because they are huge and have multiple pockets which hold a lot of ammo. (I have a BDT Bulldog case similar to the one in the photo.) I hate to think that this killer now has possession of their assault rifle or rifles.
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After reviewing the photo of the rifle cases taken from the Closs home, those appear to be DOUBLE rifle bags. If there were no guns found in the Closs home, someone may have stolen JC's multiple, expensive rifles. If that duffle bag over the officer's shoulder was taken from the Closs home, that's an ammo bag. I wonder how many people knew JC owned expensive assault rifles?
 
MassGuy said:
They may be allowed, but their reporting is often questionable. I read nothing into this statement, as there is no possible way that anyone could know that’s she is alive.

Odds are, she probably isn’t.
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I agree. I think that the press conferences and requests for information would be taking a completely different turn so to speak if they believed Jayme were alive or complicit in any way. I don't put a whole lot of stock in that article.
 
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