Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Absoluterubbish]

Yes, but it’s so close to NG’s house that it wouldn’t make sense not to be included. AG and SIL’s house is also within the perimeter. MOO

They give specific street names of interest. I wonder if anyone local can deduce anything from those streets/route

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Why would NG bleed and why would blood be outside? Carried out in a poorly sealed tarp? Confronted someone at the door? Blood placed there? Probably the biggest risk of perp getting noticed was her screaming or someone hearing a gun shot. Perhaps the gun worn in front was so it could be seen to instill fear. Gloves under gloves provides no dexterity or ability to shoot. That’s why he didn’t cover the camera with tape. he had to grab something he could manage. Then he probably just pushed it off. it possibly kept recording because he didn’t have the ability to remove the battery. So therefore his only purpose was to grab her and carry her out or make her walk out.

Why would she bleed? Because she tried to defend self or get away to safety. My 80 year old relative punched 70ish male neighbor when he tried to get in her home uninvited. She said it was instant reaction, she didn’t think about her age or futility of her punch.
When LE got involved, neighbor said he wanted to help her hang Christmas lights. Sadly, police didn’t take it seriously (police chided her for punching him) and we helped her move asap as the situation was tense and confusing. Neighbor had been doing odd things in lead up to try to push past her to get into her home. She never talked to this guy nor invited him to hang lights.
IMO NG instantly reacted and tried to flee and the criminals subdued her, not considering the frailty of 84 yr old.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

I think I watched that 2 days ago and it had not long been uploaded, so... recent.

Do you have an opinion what that story is ?

Mine is that because he doesn't perform well in interview/presser situations and because he's previously mis-spoken and been criticised... he is highly vigilant over what he's saying so I can't read him. What I see is him thinking hard how to phrase what he needs to say. I also think he has a reasonably expressive face so I expect eye darting and head movements. Just what I see.

I think he didn’t want to answer the question and I think it’s very interesting that 14 odd days in he still won’t say the family has been cleared.

I do honestly hope they aren’t involved though for the rest of the family’s sake

 

[flakesofsnow]

What power do old folks wield? Power of the pen. You can’t change your will if you are not able to sign it or assign a power of attorney. Perhaps a decree of tough love was expressed.

 

[sdmike1974]

I'm posting this for those who may have missed it. Brian Entin is speaking with a retired FBI agent—lots of good information/explanation about the case.

Couldn't agree more.

Brian Entin hits another home run.

One of the best -- if not the best -- reports since poor Nancy Guthrie went missing.

Also, a tip-of-the hat to retired FBI agent Steve Moore who was also very impressive.

 

[SUNchips]

They give specific street names of interest. I wonder if anyone local can deduce anything from those streets/route

Well they list Roller Coaster Rd as a west barrier but then list La Cholla as well, which is further west. Roller Coaster is just past AGs house. (But the map photo boundary does go to La Cholla).

It also includes a few miles west of NG’s house but doesn’t go east of her house much at all.

My opinion only.

 

[shonyakay]

Haven't got caught up yet just wanted to reshare the alert that LE gave neighbors last week where they mention specific times and dates to check for any footage they may have.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022005447314784698

Sidenote: January 11th is national human trafficking awareness day. Seniors are sometimes trafficked for fraud.

 

[Cassie P]

I think it's too hard to hold hostages and it takes an enterprise. Also, kidnap and murder? in the U.S. means a possible death sentence.

Yes let's do the math. I agree it is going to take a team to kidnap a person and then hold them until the ransom is paid. It is going to take someone who can break into a home, transport the victim out of the home, into a secure, secret location. The victim must be fed, housed, taken care of to the extent they remain alive. And it all must be done in a way that the victim cannot see or detect the location and identify of the perpetrators. This will require at least two people. Perhaps more?

Then they will need a person who has expertise in internet security and finance. Who can conduct the ransom part of the operation. This is a third person.

So a bare minimum of three people, perhaps more. In the Guthrie case they are asking for $6 million. It would have to be split at least three ways after operating expenses. $2 million might seem like a lot of money, but the people are facing the death penalty or life in prison. And will be on the lam or lookout for the rest of their lives. And they know that anyone in the rest of the team could turn them in at anytime to save their own skin.

 

[submarine7]

Why was he in her house for so long? Between 1:47 and 2:24 (I think). Nothing makes sense.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Haven't got caught up yet just wanted to reshare the alert that LE gave neighbors last week where they mention specific times and dates to check for any footage they may have.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022005447314784698

Sidenote: January 11th is national human trafficking awareness day. Seniors are sometimes trafficked for fraud.

Now this is interesting. Why does the Jan 11 time stop at 11pm if they are saying she was abducted around 1.45-2.20am on Feb 1st. I know there was a refreshed request for footage from Jan 11 today, I’ll check the times on that when I get up in the morning

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Why was he in her house for so long? Between 1:47 and 2:24 (I think). Nothing makes sense.

Maybe panicking, figuring out what to do I still think there were 2 people and door cam man came second to help remove her MOO

 

[shonyakay]

This graphic may help clarify:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022883834228793757

Oh wow - so now there is newer information of the areas of interest.

 

[flakesofsnow]

Why was he in her house for so long? Between 1:47 and 2:24 (I think). Nothing makes sense.

possibly because he is slow at his job

 

[washysmum]

Respectfully, LE do not owe the public any kind of explanation. We have no idea what they are working off of or what led them to treat the situation Friday like they did, nor should we.
I’m sure, besides the family, no one wants to get to the bottom of this more than the officers and agents working nonstop through this mess.

you are quite right, Im embarrassed by my statement. Newish not sure how to delete

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Why was he in her house for so long? Between 1:47 and 2:24 (I think). Nothing makes sense.

The way I took it was he disabled the camera at 1:47 and wasn’t inside until after he maybe cased the perimeter of the home to find a break in point. Who knows how long it took him to actually enter the home.

 

[Sadi]

Agree to disagree…especially with the sheriff and his comment of how it might take years.

When the sheriff said it might take years, it makes me wonder if he said it to throw off someone to think they’re not close to finding them, but instead they’re very close.

 

[Nikynoo]

I think I watched that 2 days ago and it had not long been uploaded, so... recent.

Do you have an opinion what that story is ?

Mine is that because he doesn't perform well in interview/presser situations and because he's previously mis-spoken and been criticised... he is highly vigilant over what he's saying so I can't read him. What I see is him thinking hard how to phrase what he needs to say. I also think he has a reasonably expressive face so I expect eye darting and head movements. Just what I see.

I think some are concentrating too much on whether someone is cleared or not. To clear someone and then later charge them surely would have consequences during any trial?

 

[Cassie P]

Why was he in her house for so long? Between 1:47 and 2:24 (I think). Nothing makes sense.

Yes usually kidnappers are quick. It is a business crime, not personal. They typically will not spend time in the home. They are not interested in petty theft or leaving evidence in the home. They want to avoid detection and will try to be in and out in a matter of minutes?

How long would it take a young man or two men to take an elderly woman out of her bed to a car waiting out front?

But if there was only one man, and the victim puts up a struggle it might take longer? Or the kidnapper is foolish, an amateur and decides to take some items from the home. Or perhaps the kindapper is staging the crime scene a bit for some reason?

 

[britinsussex]

When the sheriff said it might take years, it makes me wonder if he said it to throw off someone to think they’re not close to finding them, but instead they’re very close.

I would hope this is the reason. Just my opinion, but I feel it was highly irresponsible for him to say this.

 

[shonyakay]

Why was he in her house for so long? Between 1:47 and 2:24 (I think). Nothing makes sense.

We don't know that he was. The door nest cam disconnected at 1:47 a.m. We don't see him on her porch until 2:12 a.m. per TMZ.
We don't know where he entered and we don't know when he entered.

We only have that he was on her porch at 2:12 a.m. and the camera is still there but Nancy's blood is not there yet. Then Nancy's pacemaker is somehow separated from her phone shortly before 2:28 a.m.

If he hadn't gotten into her house at that point when he is seen on the porch then this places the abduction in a shorter window of time.