OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered - 4 Wagner Family Members Arrested #89

Cool Cats said:

I thought a different judge OK'ed the change of venue. So I wonder if judge Hein is against this and will "fight" it?

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Betty P said:

IIRC, Judge Hein wanted the change of venue. It was the victim's families who had AC appeal it. They lost, so I think its up to Hein now.

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Seattle1 said:

2/9/26

Discussions about a possible trial date in October and juror interviews regarding the death penalty took place, but the trial location remains undecided.

Wagner's lawyers confirmed no plea deals have been offered, and Billy Wagner was seen shaking his head in court when the subject arose.

Billy Wagner returned to court for hearing for Pike County massacre

Billy Wagner returns to the Pike County Courthouse for the first time since learning he could once again face the death penalty.

dayton247now.com

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Seattle1 said:

I recall this being reported in November 2024, but didn't Judge Hein rule on this illegally -- after failing to first consult with the victims?

More recently, (2/9/26), it's been reported that the trial location remains undecided.

My heart remains heavy, especially for the Rhoden matriarch.

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Seattle1 said:

I recall this being reported in November 2024, but didn't Judge Hein rule on this illegally -- after failing to first consult with the victims?

More recently, (2/9/26), it's been reported that the trial location remains undecided.

My heart remains heavy, especially for the Rhoden matriarch.

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Betty P said:

Yes, as the most recent article mentions, the appeals court let stand Judge Hein's decision about change of venue. He just hasn't decided where to move the trial. The courts overturned his other decisions about removing the DP from Billy's charges.

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rescuemom said:

IMO, moving the trial after so many years will not benefit BW. It will only inconvenience the family and friends. Haven't they been through enough??? Is mama Rhoden still living??

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Covert Operative said:

This is the appeal filed with the Supreme Court to have Billy's Death Penalty specifications dismissed.
Judge Hein had dismissed the DP. The state filed with Court of appeals to have it reinstated and that was granted. Now Billy's lawyers are asking the Supreme Court to dismiss again. If the Supreme Courts agrees to take the case and he did happen to win, could the State then file an appeal with the Supreme Court?

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Cool Cats said:

I do believe the Supreme Court is the last stop on this long train ride. Hopefully they keep this multiple murderer's
DP in place then this new judge (didn't Hein leave) can set trial dates.

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joe jones said:

This must mean even more delays, it seems never ending

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Covert Operative said:

Dang I wish Hein had left, he has not that I have heard of. Will Canepa be able to also appeal to the Supreme Court if they did happen to rule in favor of Billy?

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Cool Cats said:

Can US Supreme Court Decisions be Overturned?

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Cool Cats said:

Can US Supreme Court Decisions be Overturned?

US Supreme Court decisions can be overturned, but only by the Supreme Court itself. For a decision to be overturned, it has to...

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While a Supreme Court decision is final for a case, the law itself can evolve. Discover the processes that shape and alter the Court’s legal interpretations over time.

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May 16, 2024
The US Supreme Court is the highest court in the land, meaning it has authority over all other courts within the United States. As there is no court in the United States with more authority than the US Supreme Court, a Supreme Court ruling cannot be overturned by any other court, though the Supreme Court can overturn its own rulings.

This happens when a ruling is issued and then, years later, a similar case comes to the court and the court changes its opinion. One of the most famous examples of a Supreme Court case being overturned is Plessy v. Ferguson, which was overturned by the ruling in Brown v. Board of Education.

Published Jul 19, 2025
Decisions made by the United States Supreme Court cannot be appealed to another court. As the nation’s highest judicial body, its rulings on federal law are conclusive for the case in question. While a specific decision is final, the legal principles it establishes are not entirely beyond challenge.

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Covert Operative said:

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I did know they can change their own rulings, but I was not sure if the State has a chance to appeal if the court did hand down a ruling in favor of Billy. It would seem unfair if she had to go to court of appeals first instead of Supreme Court and thendefense got to appeal to Supreme Court with no recourse for the State after that to be heard and considered. Thank you for posting that.

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