UK - Three abandoned babies (2017, 2019, 2024) full siblings found in London

[Izzylizzy]

“The three babies in this investigation are thankfully healthy and well, and we are continuing momentum behind this investigation to identify the parents.”
Detective Inspector Jamie Humm of the Child Abuse Investigation Team

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/news-campaigns/news/2025/jan/20-000-reward-offered-to-find-parents-of-three-abandoned-babies

Now Metropolitan Police in London are asking for the public’s help in identifying the man and woman involved, announcing a more than $24,000 reward on the 1-year anniversary of finding the third baby on Jan. 18 last year.

https://fox8.com/news/24k-reward-offered-in-search-of-parents-who-abandoned-3-of-their-newborns-police/?fbclid=IwY2xjawH7URlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHemWYScnRv89i54kWpJgBQCoXWHxMXdWUJUyX6FmsgiYBBfuRI_vNK1SFw_aem_OozKUT2cKV2aBZ84amAR-Q

imo:
The mother could be completely isolated( I doubt) or is able to hide her pregnancy with a caftan style dress if she's a Muslim and/or she must live in an ethnic cultured community that protects each other no matter what.
The renamed baby Elsa was found with her imbecile cord still attached so I doubt a midwife delivered her.
I thought that the renamed baby Roman was a boy. not so, a girl.

Does anyone know if the CCTV footage was released from all 3 of the abandonments?

It appears that the couple may have moved after the first baby was born because the second and third babies were found in a different location and close to each other.
I don't know how that could be tracked?
Not having a car is also possible.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/04/uk/london-abandoned-babies-gbr-intl/index.html

 

[Izzylizzy]

“The three babies in this investigation are thankfully healthy and well, and we are continuing momentum behind this investigation to identify the parents.”
Detective Inspector Jamie Humm of the Child Abuse Investigation Team

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/news-campaigns/news/2025/jan/20-000-reward-offered-to-find-parents-of-three-abandoned-babies

Now Metropolitan Police in London are asking for the public’s help in identifying the man and woman involved, announcing a more than $24,000 reward on the 1-year anniversary of finding the third baby on Jan. 18 last year.

https://fox8.com/news/24k-reward-offered-in-search-of-parents-who-abandoned-3-of-their-newborns-police/?fbclid=IwY2xjawH7URlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHemWYScnRv89i54kWpJgBQCoXWHxMXdWUJUyX6FmsgiYBBfuRI_vNK1SFw_aem_OozKUT2cKV2aBZ84amAR-Q

I'm just posting this link to back-up my saying that there's a high level of poverty in Newham.
The $20,000 reward just may do the job of identifying the parents.

https://lucindaplatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/poverty-and-deprivation-newham.pdf

 

[imstilla.grandma]

*slightly off topic. It has happened before...

But the three still had questions: Who was the mother who had left Julie at a mini market, Dean on a doorstep and Janet in a paper bag in an alley?

How 3 Babies Abandoned By Same Mother In The 1980s Were Reunited

"There was a connection," says Janet Barnicoat, "It's like we'd never been apart from each other."

www.cbsnews.com

"Every time I go somewhere, where I see a 'Safe Haven' sign ... it gets me every time, still, now, to this day," Hauser told Elizabeth Vargas

California Mom Reveals Why She Abandoned 3 Babies at Birth 3 Separate Times

The three siblings met their mother for the first time.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

What weighs on my heart is not the actual abandoning of a baby but the lack of concern/care for the babies left out in the dead of winter.
Naked, wrapped in a towel/blanket and then shoved in a bag.
The saving grace is that they survived and aren't growing up with the birth parents.

 

[Goecke]

Seems it's saying "full siblings" are first degree relatives, not second degree.

Per link to table below, "full siblings" are second degree relatives to each other.*

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Degrees of Consanguinity.

Consanguinity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also snipped for focus- I'm not sure if there terms are different in the legal field or in different countries, but parent/child incest and full sibling incest are put under the same category (first degree) in my job since the percent of DNA shared is the same. On that same Wikipedia page there's a table with the average percent of DNA shared between relatives. In the genetics world relationships with 50% DNA shared are 1st degree, relationships with 25% DNA shared are 2nd degree, etc.

First Degree Relative

A first degree relative is a family member who shares about 50 percent of their genes with a particular individual in a family.

www.genome.gov

Hope this helps!

 

[al66pine]

First Degree Relatives. In Science. In US Law

Also snipped for focus- I'm not sure if there terms are different in the legal field or in different countries, but parent/child incest and full sibling incest are put under the same category (first degree) in my job since the percent of DNA shared is the same. On that same Wikipedia page there's a table with the average percent of DNA shared between relatives. In the genetics world relationships with 50% DNA shared are 1st degree, relationships with 25% DNA shared are 2nd degree, etc.

First Degree Relative

A first degree relative is a family member who shares about 50 percent of their genes with a particular individual in a family.

www.genome.gov

Hope this helps!

@Goecke Thx so much for responding to clarify how DNA scientists use "first degree" and who is included. Different in some situations in law, at least in the US.
And TYVM for providing the link.

 

[Luwin]

Baby Elsa: Abandoned girl's progress 'astonishing', court hears

In January 2024, Baby Elsa was left in a carrier bag by a footpath shortly after she was born.

www.bbc.co.uk

A baby girl who was abandoned more than a year ago in east London is thriving, a Family Court has heard.

Judge Carol Atkinson said it was "astonishing" that Baby Elsa was doing so well.

 

[Deleted member 235284]

such a sad case i hope its solved and there is not any more babies left in future.

 

[celinesleuth]

I don't know London, or how close the proximity is, but I just had an alert on my phone for an abandoned baby (sadly deceased) in Notting Hill

Newborn baby's body found in bag outside Notting Hill church

Police have urged the baby's mother to go to any hospital or police station to get help, saying she must be "very frightened".

news.sky.com

 

[Sall2021]

Just got the notification too and thought of this thread straight away.

 

[Sarahlou]

I don't know London, or how close the proximity is, but I just had an alert on my phone for an abandoned baby (sadly deceased) in Notting Hill

Newborn baby's body found in bag outside Notting Hill church

Police have urged the baby's mother to go to any hospital or police station to get help, saying she must be "very frightened".

news.sky.com

Opposite side of London to the other cases. Poor baby

 

[dotr]

Opposite side of London to the other cases. Poor baby

Started thread..

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UK Thread 'UK- Notting Hill, west London, All Saints' Church, New born baby, body in bag, 25 March 2025'

Mar 25, 2025

25 March 2025

Newborn baby's body found in bag outside Notting Hill church

Police have urged the baby's mother to go to any hospital or police station to get help, saying she must be "very frightened".

news.sky.com

The baby was found outside All Saints' Church. Pic: Google
''The body of a newborn baby has been found in a bag outside a church in Notting Hill, west London.

Metropolitan Police are urgently appealing for the mother to come forward "for her own welfare".

The force said police officers and the ambulance service were called to the end of Talbot Road, on Powis Gardens, at 12.46pm on Tuesday but the baby was declared dead at the scene''

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[Lucy6226]

Opposite side of London to the other cases. Poor baby

Still wouldn't rule it out. Police will no doubt DNA this poor mite to check though

 

[Luwin]

Baby Elsa: Police going door-to-door in hunt for parents of abandoned siblings

The search for parents of three newborn babies, all abandoned after birth, is focused on nearby houses.

www.bbc.co.uk

Police searching for the parents of three newborn babies, all abandoned in east London minutes after their birth, say they are now focusing on about 400 nearby houses.

 

[Smccat]

Baby Elsa: Police going door-to-door in hunt for parents of abandoned siblings

The search for parents of three newborn babies, all abandoned after birth, is focused on nearby houses.

www.bbc.co.uk

Police searching for the parents of three newborn babies, all abandoned in east London minutes after their birth, say they are now focusing on about 400 nearby houses.

They are going to get to the bottom of this very soon imo.

 

[Sarahlou]

Baby Elsa: Police going door-to-door in hunt for parents of abandoned siblings

The search for parents of three newborn babies, all abandoned after birth, is focused on nearby houses.

www.bbc.co.uk

Police searching for the parents of three newborn babies, all abandoned in east London minutes after their birth, say they are now focusing on about 400 nearby houses.

I wonder how many people will be willing to give their DNA? Certainly not the parents of these babies.
I do hope they find them.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Baby Elsa: Police going door-to-door in hunt for parents of abandoned siblings

The search for parents of three newborn babies, all abandoned after birth, is focused on nearby houses.

www.bbc.co.uk

Police searching for the parents of three newborn babies, all abandoned in east London minutes after their birth, say they are now focusing on about 400 nearby houses.

Thanks for the update.

There's also the UK show, "Long Lost Family" that unites adopted children/adults with birth parents and one show was about 3 adults who were all abandoned around the same town, DNA connected them and the birth mother was identified but she was deceased but they found each other.

The saving grace with the current 3 abandoned babies is that it's already known they are full siblings and are
in contact with each other.

California Mom Reveals Why She Abandoned 3 Babies at Birth 3 Separate Times

The three siblings met their mother for the first time.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Lucy6226]

The parents must be papping themselves at this news. Because even if they aren't swabbed, close family members could be linked to them

 

[Izzylizzy]

The parents must be papping themselves at this news. Because even if they aren't swabbed, close family members could be linked to them

What I find interesting and helpful is that we know that all 3 children have the same mother and father so it's not a case of fly by fathers.
It appears there's some form of stability with the parents relationship which should make it easier.
Hopefully with the reward being offered someone who does suspect who the mother is or knows who she is can come forward and be anonymous.
imo

 

[Skigh]

I suppose it could be someone who is here maybe illegally working as a live in help .