UT UT - Robin Putnam, 25, Salt Lake City, 8 July 2012

Maybe he hitched a ride from Salt Lake City, UT to Elko, NV...it's about 3 hours on I-80 according to Google Maps.

Sadly I think this is another suicide of a young man.

I don't think he ever made it to Salt Lake City. The reports of a "thin, blonde young man" were hopeful to his parents but if he purposely got off the train here, why would he have left his most precious belongings on the train? His journal, his computer, his wallet?
If he was hitchhiking back to California, it's unlikely the route would have taken them four miles down a dirt road east of US-93 15 miles south of I-80 (Wells), coincidentally to a "railroad maintenance road" at Tobar (originally a roadroad construction town, now gone).

Amtrak does not stop in Wells. It stops west of Wells in Elko.
I agree that this is likely a suicide. "Cindy is concerned that her son’s talk of panic attacks in the months leading up to his disappearance may have manifested into something more serious. She says her son’s landlord told her that a few weeks before Robin’s departure, he had some kind of episode and woke her up in the middle of the night terrified and confused.
“He was definitely struggling to differentiate between his dream state and his waking state,” [his mother] says. “[The landlord] described it as a psychotic break.” Source: (Salt Lake) City Weekly, August 29, 2012.

Yes, I know that the Facebook page says he had no mental issues. But I'd consider waking up your landlord in a psychotic mode to be an issue. What if he woke up on a train, in the same psychotic mode. Would he jump off?

Some things that investigators are likely looking at:

One passenger claimed to have talked to him for quite awhile. When's the last time he saw Putnam?
On that day, would Amtrak have been using that route south of Wells? (It's a cut-off)
 
On that day, would Amtrak have been using that route south of Wells? (It's a cut-off)

A couple of us (on the Salt Lake Tribune website) worked on this; Amtrak's route IS through Tobar enroute to the Hogan Tunnel.

This means that his body *was* found alongside the tracks his train travelled on. It's obvious he never made it to Salt Lake City and that all those "sightings" were merely helpful people who saw a skinny, blond kid.
 
I don't think he ever made it to Salt Lake City. The reports of a "thin, blonde young man" were hopeful to his parents but if he purposely got off the train here, why would he have left his most precious belongings on the train? His journal, his computer, his wallet?
If he was hitchhiking back to California, it's unlikely the route would have taken them four miles down a dirt road east of US-93 15 miles south of I-80 (Wells), coincidentally to a "railroad maintenance road" at Tobar (originally a roadroad construction town, now gone).

Amtrak does not stop in Wells. It stops west of Wells in Elko.
I agree that this is likely a suicide. "Cindy is concerned that her son’s talk of panic attacks in the months leading up to his disappearance may have manifested into something more serious. She says her son’s landlord told her that a few weeks before Robin’s departure, he had some kind of episode and woke her up in the middle of the night terrified and confused.
“He was definitely struggling to differentiate between his dream state and his waking state,” [his mother] says. “[The landlord] described it as a psychotic break.” Source: (Salt Lake) City Weekly, August 29, 2012.

Yes, I know that the Facebook page says he had no mental issues. But I'd consider waking up your landlord in a psychotic mode to be an issue. What if he woke up on a train, in the same psychotic mode. Would he jump off?

Some things that investigators are likely looking at:

One passenger claimed to have talked to him for quite awhile. When's the last time he saw Putnam?
On that day, would Amtrak have been using that route south of Wells? (It's a cut-off)

Lots of people without psychiatric problems have had hypnagogic hallucinations when they have just woken up or are just drifting off to sleep...

Hallucinations can cause confusion, as they will often be indistinguishable from reality in your mind. In contrast, upon waking from a dream, most people will clearly recognize it was a dream they were experiencing, or may immediately forget about the dream entirely upon waking. Hallucinations may also cause fear, especially upon waking, as they may include clear and complex visual images, that may be distorted or make no sense realistic sense.

Sleep related hallucinations can occur in as many as 25% of people, as opposed to under 5% for non sleep related hallucinations. They are most commonly found in young adults and teens, and frequency of hallucinations seems to decrease with age. Females are more likely to experience them than are males.

Sleep related hallucinations may be a direct result of alcohol or drug use, or could be due to insomnia, anxiety, stress or other factors. People with narcolepsy have a high rate of sleep hallucination occurrence.
https://www.sleepassociation.org/patients-general-public/hallucinations-during-sleep/
 
Just had a look at the FB again after several months...His parents keep posting pictures of his wonderful pieces of art. They still have no answers as to what happened to him.
 
Cold Case Spotlight: Parents Still Pushing for Answers in Son Robin Putnam's Mysterious Death

There is a lot of frustration surrounding Robin Putnam's case.

Frustration stemming from his mysterious disappearance while on an Amtrack train trip home to see is parents. Frustration over the lack of details discovered in the days and weeks following. Frustration when, after three years, his remains were discovered in a remote area of Nevada.

And now frustration with a lack of any type of answers or closure.

"We still have no idea what happened. We have our theories, but there is so little to go on," Doug Putnam, Robin's father, told Dateline. "We may never know."

The discovery of Robin's remains only deepened the mystery. A detective is still assigned to the case from the area where Robin was found, but there are very few clues to lead him in a specific direction.

The lack of clues in the case just leaves speculation in the minds of the Putnams. They firmly believe something sinister happened to their son and there is someone out there who knows what that is.

The Putnams still post to the Facebook page 'Robin Putnam, find Home,' originally made to help spur interest and generate tips in Robin's case. Sketches Robin had made and memories of him fill the space. Hopefully one day, there will be a posting about what became of the couple's only child.
 
September 4, 2016
5:52 PM ET

Parents Still Pushing for Answers in Son Robin Putnam's Mysterious Death

robin_putnan_v1_319f5dae6f923b603899fa85b138fa6f.nbcnews-ux-600-700.jpg



<SNIP>


Robin was an artist. His father says art chose Robin more than he chose it. Sketching, painting, drawing; Robin had a knack for it all. So much so, attended the California College of Arts in Oakland, California. It was at the end of his junior year when there, that he phoned his parents and said he had bought an Amtrack train ticket for the following morning to come visit them for a few weeks in Colorado.

Taking the train was much cheaper than flying. It was a trip the 26-year-old had done several times before.

The train departed at 9:00 a.m. on July 7, 2012 from Emeryville, California. It would be about 24 hours until the train reached Grand Junction, Colorado, where Robin's parents would be waiting to pick him up.

Around 3:00 a.m. on July 8, the train stopped for a planned one-hour layover in Salt Lake City. Robin's parents would later learn their son had gotten off the train there. For what reason, no one is certain.

What is known is that the following day when the train pulled into Grand Junction, Robin wasn't on it.
"He had no reason to get off the train in Salt Lake, except to possibly stretch or something," Robin's father Doug told Dateline. "We believe fully he got off that train with every intention of getting back on."

Adding to the suspicion was the fact that his laptop and journal were left in the observation car of the train. One of the most recent entires of the journal detailed how excited Robin was for the trip to see his parents.

Several days later, Robin's wallet was found on the tracks in Chicago. Inside were dozens of business cards that Robin had collected, but his debit card was missing. How the wallet ended up thousands of miles away is unknown. Robin's duffle bag was never found.

<SNIP>

A man contacted them saying he remembered talking with Robin on the train the night he vanished. He recalled last seeing Robin around midnight, and said he came across as a polite, well-spoken young man. Nothing seemed amiss.

An Amtrack conductor and several other passengers also told them they believe they saw Robin getting off the train with a woman in Salt Lake. Her identity remains a mystery.
It would be three years until the Putnams would learn what became of Robin. A train conductor noticed something odd in August 2015 in a wash area near the train tracks in a remote area of Nevada.

The remains were so badly decomposed, dental records would be used to match them to Robin. That and a plastic debit card found nearby. Due to the state of the remains, a cause and manner of death were not able to be determined.

The discovery of Robin's remains only deepened the mystery. A detective is still assigned to the case from the area where Robin was found, but there are very few clues to lead him in a specific direction.

The lack of clues in the case just leaves speculation in the minds of the Putnams. They firmly believe something sinister happened to their son and there is someone out there who knows what that is.


http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/cold...s-son-robin-putnam-s-mysterious-death-n642196
 
Another young man seems to have fallen off an Amtrak train right before Truckee. Amtrak says it may have been a suicide attempt but the family insists the young man was pushed off much like Robin’s family insists.

Gay man texted family about a new 'friend.' He was found unconscious near train tracks

The family has also set up a Facebook page with more information about the day Aaron Salazar was pushed off an Amtrak train. They are calling it a hate crime. The name of the FB group is Justice for Aaron Salazar.
 
Another young man seems to have fallen off an Amtrak train right before Truckee. Amtrak says it may have been a suicide attempt but the family insists the young man was pushed off much like Robin’s family insists.

Gay man texted family about a new 'friend.' He was found unconscious near train tracks

The family has also set up a Facebook page with more information about the day Aaron Salazar was pushed off an Amtrak train. They are calling it a hate crime. The name of the FB group is Justice for Aaron Salazar.
And another one.

Amtrak passenger identified as person found dead near Cameron

CAMERON — A Joliet man has been identified as the person found dead near railroad tracks in Cameron on Aug. 11.

The deceased was identified as Michael Johnson, 26, of Joliet. An investigation has determined Johnson was a passenger on an Amtrak train on Aug. 11, with a destination of Chicago. The Amtrak train passed through Warren County at about 1 p.m.

Johnson's body was discovered along the tracks, located about one-half mile west of the Knox/Warren County line near Cameron, at about 4 p.m. on Aug. 11 by Burlington Northern Railroad.

Autopsy results are pending.

The circumstances of why Johnson departed from the moving train remains under investigation by the Warren County Coroner’s Office, Warren County Sheriff’s Office, and Illinois State Police.

I couldn't find any follow up. Cause of death, injuries???
 

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
144
Guests online
3,954
Total visitors
4,098

Forum statistics

Threads
592,537
Messages
17,970,640
Members
228,801
Latest member
uncommongrackle
Back
Top