SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #5

[watcher9]

A single shot? Where did all the other shells came from?

According to Murdaugh’s lawyer, a truck drove past Murdaugh before the driver circled back and fired a single shot. The bullet left Murdaugh with “a superficial gunshot wound to the head,” the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division said in a statement, WTOC reported.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/09/07/south-carolina-murdaugh-murders-resignation/

 

[MemPat]

I think the odds of there being another woman are very, very low, but I certainly could be wrong. AM was being sued by the Beach family for what was sure to be many millions of dollars. Both Philadelphia Indemnity (5 million worth of coverage, I think) and his other insurance company (not sure how much coverage he had with them) had filed preemptive lawsuits against AM and BM, saying: “we ain’t paying: it was your boat, it was your son and your brother, you allowed him to go, you gave him your license, you helped him buy beer, you knew he drank too much, yada yada. AM and BM were/are going to need big big money for their defense, and especially if the judgement goes against them. In effect, they had no insurance.

That, and AM may have been facing a crumbling marriage. Plus, if he had a problem with opioids, Im sure they’re expensive to obtain. He was also paying for PM’s tuition. So again, imo he needed big big money, and fast. If there was a woman on the side (and again, I seriously doubt that there was one - he was a 53 yr old overweight, married, raging druggie who was not exactly handsome - and lived in a small poor, South Carolina low country town where everybody knew everybody), she probably wouldn’t have been seeing much in the way of money from AM, given how much money AM was going to need to defend himself and possibly pay punitive damages in the civil suit. I think AM’s survival would’ve come first, and I don’t think he even had enough for that. All jmo

I would never underestimate how desirable a chubby married raging addict could be to another addict looking for her next hit.

 

[airportwoman]

I think the odds of there being another woman are very, very low, but I certainly could be wrong. AM was being sued by the Beach family for what was sure to be many millions of dollars. Both Philadelphia Indemnity (5 million worth of coverage, I think) and his other insurance company (not sure how much coverage he had with them) had filed preemptive lawsuits against AM and BM, saying: “we ain’t paying: it was your boat, it was your son and your brother, you allowed him to go, you gave him your license, you helped him buy beer, you knew he drank too much, yada yada. AM and BM were/are going to need big big money for their defense, and especially if the judgement goes against them. In effect, they had no insurance.

That, and AM may have been facing a crumbling marriage. Plus, if he had a problem with opioids, Im sure they’re expensive to obtain. He was also paying for PM’s tuition. So again, imo he needed big big money, and fast. If there was a woman on the side (and again, I seriously doubt that there was one - he was a 53 yr old overweight, married, raging druggie who was not exactly handsome - and lived in a small poor, South Carolina low country town where everybody knew everybody), she probably wouldn’t have been seeing much in the way of money from AM, given how much money AM was going to need to defend himself and possibly pay punitive damages in the civil suit. I think AM’s survival would’ve come first, and I don’t think he even had enough for that. All jmo

(or, for that matter, another man, and I'm talking about Alex; that IMNSHO would have been more likely for her, because she was a physically attractive woman.)

I forgot to mention earlier that when I heard Alex had gone to rehab, it was physical therapy secondary to his gunshot wound, and possibly other health issues. Detox or long-term mental health treatment didn't occur to me at first!

 

[PaulaDC]

But why wasn't PM's phone also taken and tossed? I find it odd that only MM's was.

If she was still breathing and capable of using it but not capable of retrieving it.....moo

 

[airportwoman]

Respectfully snipped by me for focus.

IMO, this type of bleak assessment of one's life is a almost a clichéd prelude to a mid-life crisis and a desire to find new motivation. I would say this might be exacerbated when facing the mortality of parents and ongoing parenting issues that perhaps one hoped would have been mostly resolved by now.

AM seems to travel easily to Columbia, Charleston and Savannah. I don't think finding a paramour would be an insurmountable challenge (though I don't know if he did). The amount of money available is relative, and he had enough to impress someone if he so wished. IMHO.

He might also have used escorts, male or female. That would be more likely to me than a second SO.

 

[MemPat]

Well said. The name alone would have gotten him what he wanted. Look at Paul’s beautiful girlfriend.

Survivors of boat crash involving murdered SC man give DNA samples

And look how he treated her! Surely she moved on after that "accident".

 

[lstiff]

Of course, my assumption of there being another woman could be erroneous.

You mentioned being 53yo and chubby as a possible reason why he wasn't involved with someone else. Did I mention in my examples that the multi-millionaire smells like a barn and was age 63 when their affair began? His lover, who was married to the CEO, is 20 years younger. She's quite attractive but by golly I can't respect a married woman who takes another's husband, even if he does smell like a barn.

Perhaps his marriage was in shambles because he was in love with someone else. This is pure speculation on my part.

I had a conversation recently with someone about unattractive (objectively speaking bc there’s someone for everyone) old rich dudes and the beautiful women who keep them company. There is a direct correlation btwn unattractive men and the size of their bank accounts vs attractiveness of women in the same age and wealth brackets. I assume some of it is because women choose to have work done or take better physical care of themselves. And yes, women who sleep with someone else’s husbands, without their knowledge, are they worst. IMO Got off on a tangent but yep, you are correct. Lol

 

[MassGuy]

The latest shoe to drop, and if my sources are right, there will be many more shoes to drop than a person has feet -- this story is just beginning -- Alex Murdaugh suspended Wednesday from legal practice by SC Supreme Court
[URL='https://twitter.com/jmonkatthestate/status/1435733616420691975?s=21']
https://twitter.com/jmonkatthestate/status/1435733616420691975?s=21[/URL]

 

[lstiff]

If I've learned anything from some of the recent cases on here, it's that I lead an extremely simple and boring life. Thank God, lol.

Same and I am not mad about it!

 

[tara83]

I think this story is going to end up even sadder because I think poor Maggie and Paul were betrayed in the worse way possible.

 

[MemPat]

I"m not sure I would trust this firm to differentiate between "firm" money and "client" money at this point.

Well done IMO of the SC Supreme court - amazing that the courts may act swiftly at times.
JMO

I would imagine that members of the law community in South Carolina were super familiar with the miscreant behavior of AM and his family, hence the desire to act fast with this punishment.

 

[Alkali13]

HIPPO - Currently making my way through thread 2. Do we have any info NOW on where BM was the night of the murders? Because that's the question at the front of my mind currently...

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I agree that the SC's actions are inherently justified and also agree that they acted very timely.

What could be unusual, however, is not the suspension per se, but rather just how fast the wheels turned. Likewise, they turned with out giving the the clan their customary benefit of the doubt(s). At the end of the day, the statute says "substantial threat" and not say, "articulable threat".

Oviedo raised the possibility that despite statements to the contrary, the embezzled money was due clients (taken very seriously, nd thus warranting "fast and furious" action).

Or, perhaps the Court is getting tired of the drama and views it as a threat to public confidence in attorneys and by extension, the Courts? Thus, remove AM as a practicing attorney via a suspension?

Delighted to see how fast everyone severed their professional relationships with AM! Reassuring!

DH (an attorney) has often mentioned even the "appearance of impropriety" was unacceptable for lawyers. IMHO there is certainly that here -- I don't think the measures that have been taken by the SC Supreme Court, the state bar, solicitor's office, etc., are even points for debate. This man was unquestionably over the line on every ethical front -- clients money? firm money? trust money? $$ owed to IRS? Doesn't matter who and how much. MOO.

 

[Luna20]

I would imagine that members of the law community in South Carolina were super familiar with the miscreant behavior of AM and his family, hence the desire to act fast with this punishment.

I imagine there are people in general that felt like no one could go up against them due to how powerful they are that also feel like it’s finally caught up with them.

 

[DeDee]

CNN News Wire Service
New twist in murder mystery: Alex Murdaugh shot on the road

Two weeks after the Murdaugh murders, the state police announced that information from that case had prompted them to open an investigation into the 2015 death of Stephen Smith, a 19-year-old whose body was found on a rural road in Hampton County. It had officially been ruled a hit-and-run, but the teen’s mother had been vocal in her belief that he was killed by classmates, possibly because he had a homosexual relationship with one of them.

 

[MassGuy]

Murdaugh Murders: Knife Used To Slash Alex Murdaugh’s Tire Before He Was Shot Belongs to Him [Report]

Authorities have recovered a knife allegedly used to slash the tires of Alex Murdaugh’s black SUV before he was shot Saturday while investigating a flat .

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[LetsSolvIt]

Randolph works at the firm, wonder if he knew MM asked an for audit?

I have wondered how much MM confided in her biological family -- wondering if they were aware of any of this, reason for accounting request, reason for real estate transfer to MM, if there were challenges in the marriage, etc., and were they able to share that with LE after the murders. I realize we aren't sure how much MM knew of addiction and misappropriations, but what ever she did know, had she confided in anyone. We can only guess.

 

[Luna20]

I’m not sold on it being a drug addiction. That may be a diversion to that he’s just a bad person. People are more forgiving and understanding with addictions versus a real Bad Guy. Many people are battling drug addictions that are a by product of pain management. I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to spin that theory for sympathy. The goal is not to make him look like a Bad Guy. The statement from Griffin “the family has been through so much” was damage control.

 

[worm]

I have wondered how much MM confided in her biological family -- wondering if they were aware of any of this, reason for accounting request, reason for real estate transfer to MM, if there were challenges in the marriage, etc., and were they able to share that with LE after the murders. I realize we aren't sure how much MM knew of addiction and misappropriations, but what ever she did know, had she confided in anyone. We can only guess.

Tho I can’t say as fact, but from what little I could find out about MM yesterday, she seemed like a no nonsense kind of person that probably wouldn’t have approved of hard drug use or funky money play. I’d really like to know more about this lady but she impressed me.

 

[LotusPawprint]

I imagine there are people in general that felt like no one could go up against them due to how powerful they are that also feel like it’s finally caught up with them.

I think this story is going to end up even sadder because I think poor Maggie and Paul were betrayed in the worse way possible.

I would imagine that members of the law community in South Carolina were super familiar with the miscreant behavior of AM and his family, hence the desire to act fast with this punishment.

Hopefully as the 'dynasty' proves it is not infallible, people who have been intimidated and kept quiet will now feel (more) comfortable coming forward with anything relevant that's happened concerning anything to do with the M's.