Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #3

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boomburger said:
Lets say hypothetically they had a fight and the boyfriend drives off without Gabby. Gabby then succumbs to the wilderness of where she was left, either dehydration or eaten by an animal. What sort of charges would the boyfriend be looking at? Would there even be charges?
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That would depend on the totality of the circumstances. A lot of variables at play. Firstly, the vehicle being in her name. Other things like where specifically, under what circumstances. “Was the action something that a “reasonable” person would do?” would be a question to ask when looking at responsibility, culpability, liability etc.


JMO
 
10ofRods said:
I don't know where you are, but I've never heard of a policeman offering to take someone for an "evaluation."

And I've worked with police and in mental health for 30 years. Trained EMT's? For disorderly conduct? Not where I live (non-urban Los Angeles) and my friends in Utah have had way more dramatic things happen without any EMT's called.

I've not one example of LE (where I live) offering an evaluation. They either make a decision to have an evaluation (and I've been involved in more than I could possibly count) or they don't. Mostly, they don't. We have exactly 1 psychiatrist per million the LE/public sector where I live - which, btw, is considered a fairly well-off place - especially compared to Moab (pop. 5000; LE employees on duty for one night? Probably 2).

I find exactly 1 psychiatrist working in Moab, btw. I can't even imagine.

Someone crying and acting hysterical, where I live (rubbing knees, face in hand, constant crying) is not going to get a psych eval. We are trying to train mental health workers (if someone wants to move here and get the training - PM me), My daughter is one of them. I do some of the training (cadets, LE academy in SoCal).

I also have spent a lot of time in Utah (and while not in Moab, not too far away).

One more thing: where I live, there's one set of EMT's available at any point in time; very busy. They aren't going to appear for disorderly conduct. If, however, one of the parties in this case had asked for mental health care, they probably would have gotten something - the next day. Not right then. What the officer did is, IMO, community standard for at least 8 Western states.

Would be happy to know it's different elsewhere.



I wish this could be said on every platform, infinite number of times.
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Hi, it's done here in Colorado. Police accompanied by trained mental health co-responders respond to calls out in the community and bring the person to the ED, if warranted, where they can be formally evaluated. It works very well, but scope of the program is too limited. We need more co- responders. But Moab is way smaller of a town, so completely different world.

It looks like they do have a location of Four Corners Behavioral Health in Moab. They mention 24 hr Emergency Service on their website. (Four Corners Behavioral Health is a 501.C3 located in central and Southeastern Utah providing Mental Health and Substance Use services.)
 
NoSI said:
Hi, it's done here in Colorado. Police accompanied by trained mental health co-responders respond to calls out in the community and bring the person to the ED, if warranted, where they can be formally evaluated. It works very well, but scope of the program is too limited. We need more co- responders. But Moab is way smaller of a town, so completely different world.
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Yep it’s a 5150 hold police escort to be mentally evaluated by a physician in a hospital ER or a county mental health facility that’s here in CA
 
LvsAMystry said:
Is it really irrational though if the person ( who purports to love you) in the vehicle you owned locked you out and potentially (my theory) threatened to leave you there in a remote area thousands of miles from home?
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Is it a "potential theory", though?

I thought that as per the reporter, initials "KK" whose name I am currently blanking on, and their uploading of the police report on Twitter, that Gabby flat-out told the officer that Brian had both threatened to leave her in the desert plus take her phone?

If that's correct, and IIRC it is, then we certainly don't need to qualify your statement as/by calling it a "theory".

We can call it "Gabby's claim", as a he-said, she-said; but it's pretty damning to me that we have independent corroborated pre-disappearance information from Gabby already, in her own words, saying that she was afraid that what appears (IMO, JMO, all the acronyms) exactly to have happened, was in fact going to happen ahead of time.
 
It is hard for me to wrap my head around the, what I speculate to be the break up, when he flew home to Florida. While he left her with the van, he did leave her across the country alone. A week goes by and he flies back only for her to wind up missing five days later. Sounds like he wanted the van. Or she wanted to come home but didn't know what to do about the van.
 
J Block said:
That would depend on the totality of the circumstances. A lot of variables at play. Firstly, the vehicle being in her name. Other things like where specifically, under what circumstances. “Was the action something that a “reasonable” person would do?” would be a question to ask when looking at responsibility, culpability, liability etc.


JMO
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If he abandoned her in a dangerous place, driving off in her van, and she died, could that possibly be considered felony murder? Theft of a vehicle, leading to her death?

I imagine that’s stretching things too far, and in any case, I don’t think he abandoned her anywhere, alive.

MOO
 
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