Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #34

[Lillymac]

Their lawyer is a dog trying to figure out how many bones he can get in his mouth. This is shaping up to be a potential media circus at trial and just his willingness to fly in for a 30 minute meeting tells me he's got a vested interest in the case. Lawyers dream about these kinds of cases. Unfortunately, until now, he's done his clients more harm than good. BL and his family are being publicly pilloried and vilified. That's the lawyer's fault. They're acting on his advice. His job is to drum up sympathy and mollify the vitriol. Not only has he advised them to remain silent - HE'S remained basically silent! There are so many things wrong with his representation that he may face discipline from the bar at a later date.

If I recall, that's what was said about Jose Bias. Everyone got a shock!

 

[kittythehare]

False 911 call of shots being fired near BL’s parents home is under investigation and someone could end up facing charges.

I wonder who made that call???

 

[meatandcookies]

And LE wouldn't be able to monitor any of the attorney's communications including any with burner phones. So hypothetically, if Brian has a burner phone, he can pass messages to his parents via the attorney. At this point because there's an arrest warrant, the attorney and Brian are probably not directly communicating. They could have been prior to the warrant.

It's possible the parents could have a burner phone that physically sits in the attorney's office and the parents use it there and only there to communicate with Brian, and the attorney ensures he is not present. Brian and his parents chat, then the parents consult with the attorney. The attorney can claim to have no knowledge of these communications...the attorney can simply frame it as holding on to property for the parents. Literally putting the phone in a box, and not opening the box. The attoney can claim he is not in communication with Brian and has no knowledge of how to.

The parents can also access the internet from the attorney's office and use pre-established or throw away encrypted email accounts to send messages to each other. If Brian and his parents created a throw away email account ahead of time, they could communicate by simply saving messages in the drafts folder and there wouldn't be anything to trace. There are so many ways the parents and Brian can communicate while also staying just barely inside the letter of the law, and with some involvement of the attorney, who himself is on the very edge of legal but shady. They could have planned this out well ahead of time. They had such a long head start.


all just my opinion and conjecture

when I watched The Hunted (thanks to y’all’s recommendation in this forum!…it’s a realty show about people who are on the run from LE) one of the teams established a Gmail account where they communicated only via the drafts folder, so the emails weren’t traceable because they didn’t exist. It was brilliant. I’m not sure the Laundries are that sophisticated, but who knows.

 

[TheGardener]

Because he fled?

Most criminals flee in some way before capture whether its up into an attic, under a house foundation or across town. BL (to my knowledge) has no criminal record and as it stands now, flight associated with a misdemeanor charge would be generally considered unlikely by the court. It could change if he's charged with a series of felonies or murder, but if he can meet bail - he could be released pending further investigation by LE.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/brianentin/status/1441624944064991232?s=21

The Laundrie family attorney says Brian did not have a cell phone or wallet when he left the house Tuesday.
When we asked him if Brian had a weapon -- he said "unknown." And he didn't respond when asked where the cell phone is now.
Here is my convo tonight with Ashleigh Banfield.

 

[Spartygirl]

Funny, I’m the opposite. I think if he’s in the swamp, he’s dead. But if he was I’d think they’d have found him by now. How well would you hide yourself just to kill yourself‍.

But if he’s not there he’s alive. And now that I’m thinking that the “evidence” could have been staged & doled out to LE over time to keep them there.

Evidence like an empty gun case in the Mustang, he left with backpack & said he was going hiking, left with no phone or wallet, didn’t come home for 3 days. And likely much more that we don’t know is driving the search at the swamp.

So, either is possible but the longer it goes on the less I think he’s dead. Course I’m also exhausted & falling asleep so….

BBM
BUT--it isn't just a "swamp"
There is camping, hiking trails, Kayaking, boating, Picnicking restrooms, etc
It is more like a park.
Carlton Reserve (T. Mabry Carlton, Jr. Memorial Reserve) Currently CLOSED | Find a Park | Sarasota County, FL (scgov.net)

 

[avenger]

The parents of missing Brian Laundrie were shadowed by undercover agents Thursday as they broke cover and drove for 150 miles – before bizarrely visiting a library, DailyMail.com can exclusively reveal.

In surreal scenes, the undercover agents – believed to be with the FBI – then followed the couple into the Orlando Public Library and hovered in the aisles perusing 80s dance CDs and a Colombian art installation while keeping them under constant surveillance.

Inside, Christopher, 62, looked agitated and unhappy as he talked on his phone while Roberta, 55, paced up and down in the lobby, occasionally glancing suspiciously at the plain-clothes operatives.

They waited inside the library for around 30 minutes, not stopping to look at a single book or display, before ignoring requests to comment from a DailyMail.com reporter and hopping back into their red Dodge Ram truck.

Moments later the vehicle was spotted entering a downtown Orlando parking garage, attached to a large office building.

The reason for their visit – a two-hour-and 20-minute drive from their bungalow – was shrouded in mystery, however the area is close to court buildings and teeming with lawyers’ offices.

Around an hour later, Christopher and Roberta emerged from the garage and drove home to North Port – tailed the entire way back to their front door by the same convoy of unmarked law enforcement vehicles.

Brian Laundrie parents are escorted by law enforcement as they return to their home - Eminetra.co.uk

 

[meatandcookies]

I has been reported she live there for two years. I bet that they do not go to her funeral. Maybe his sister will.

I don’t think any of the Laundries will be welcome at her funeral. MOO.

 

[jjonez]

BBM. Did they say that? I don't remember anyone but the parent's lawyer saying that.

Not the exact words, but yes. I just reread the media thread of that time period this evening

Their lawyer is a dog trying to figure out how many bones he can get in his mouth. This is shaping up to be a potential media circus at trial and just his willingness to fly in for a 30 minute meeting tells me he's got a vested interest in the case. Lawyers dream about these kinds of cases. Unfortunately, until now, he's done his clients more harm than good. BL and his family are being publicly pilloried and vilified. That's the lawyer's fault. They're acting on his advice. His job is to drum up sympathy and mollify the vitriol. Not only has he advised them to remain silent - HE'S remained basically silent! There are so many things wrong with his representation that he may face discipline from the bar at a later date.

i don’t know enough about the legal system, but I worry that they are sticking with this lawyer BECAUSE he is doing such a bad job. Like BL could get off because he didn’t have adequate representation

 

[Spartygirl]

its the one place that you can talk without fear that someone is listening in .

Usually
Unless LE /FBI are tailing you and in the same building.

 

[oviedo]

Ashleigh Banfield just referenced the statement quoted in the link below by the Laundries' lawyer with a very OBVIOUS question I haven't seen anyone else ask:

HOW DID HE KNOW WHEN GABBY DIED?

https://twitter.com/MeghanWPTV/status/1441179697535197185?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1441179697535197185|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.crimeonline.com/2021/09/23/brian-laundrie-indicted-on-a-bank-fraud-charge/

Edited to add:

Okay the arrest warrant itself refers to activities after Gabby died. Does that mean the FBI knows when she died?

Bringing this over from the media no discussion thread

 

[Bluebythec]

I'm sure her parents would have helped. But she didn't ask them to come help her, so maybe she asked his parents not to cause them concern by calling them. Being a parent of adults can be hard. You have to try to do what's best without overstepping. Of course hindsight is 20/20, but if they did convince him to go back, I'm sure they thought it would be fine.

That being said, if he was hearing voices and they were having these fights when they lived at home, then they should have done something to try to get him help. Hearing voices is not something you wait to see if it will get better.

They wouldn't have known she *didn't* call them for help as they had no contact with her parents. Parenting young adults is indeed a tough job, btdt. If my son's fiancee, who had lived with me for 2 yeas and was like family was left alone by him under those same circumstance I certainly would have cared about her well being and would have called her myself to see if she was ok. If they're living with me they're my kids too. None of us are perfect parents for sure but I just feel they could have done more. MOO

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Most criminals flee in some way before capture whether its up into an attic, under a house foundation or across town. BL (to my knowledge) has no criminal record and as it stands now, flight associated with a misdemeanor charge would be generally considered unlikely by the court. It could change if he's charged with a series of felonies or murder, but if he can meet bail - he could be released pending further investigation by LE.

I was under the impression this is a felony charge, no? I also thought they’d already asked for no bail. Did something change?

 

[Figuring]

You guys, you know how it’s perfectly legal for police to lie to subjects during an investigation? I’m wondering a similar thing about lawyers talking to the media. Are lawyers ethically/legally obligated to tell the truth on tv or in statements? Or are they allowed to muddy the waters?

I’m asking this in relation to BL’s parents lawyer who claimed in the last couple days he left his house without a wallet or phone. I’m just wondering if there’s any imperative that suggests this *has* to be true.

 

[oviedo]

Not the exact words, but yes. I just reread the media thread of that time period this evening

i don’t know enough about the legal system, but I worry that they are sticking with this lawyer BECAUSE he is doing such a bad job. Like BL could get off because he didn’t have adequate representation

But he hasn’t been charged and so there is no adequate representation yet IMO

if he’s alive - I welcome the attorney who defends him - it’s a monumental task IMO

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Most criminals flee in some way before capture whether its up into an attic, under a house foundation or across town. BL (to my knowledge) has no criminal record and as it stands now, flight associated with a misdemeanor charge would be generally considered unlikely by the court. It could change if he's charged with a series of felonies or murder, but if he can meet bail - he could be released pending further investigation by LE.

He isn’t facing a misdemeanor. He was indicted on a felony count of using unauthorized access devices.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

Their lawyer is a dog trying to figure out how many bones he can get in his mouth. This is shaping up to be a potential media circus at trial and just his willingness to fly in for a 30 minute meeting tells me he's got a vested interest in the case. Lawyers dream about these kinds of cases. Unfortunately, until now, he's done his clients more harm than good. BL and his family are being publicly pilloried and vilified. That's the lawyer's fault. They're acting on his advice. His job is to drum up sympathy and mollify the vitriol. Not only has he advised them to remain silent - HE'S remained basically silent! There are so many things wrong with his representation that he may face discipline from the bar at a later date.

It’s the lawyer’s job to protect his or her client’s legal and constitutional rights, not to be their publicist. Him telling them to stay quiet and not talk to anyone is exactly what he should do, and he’s not required to communicate with LE or the courts except where the court requires. As many a defense attorney have said, it’s better to stay silent and be thought guilty than open your mouth and be found guilty.

 

[Spartygirl]

Not the exact words, but yes. I just reread the media thread of that time period this evening

i don’t know enough about the legal system, but I worry that they are sticking with this lawyer BECAUSE he is doing such a bad job. Like BL could get off because he didn’t have adequate representation

BBM
I don't think so.. I think there is a long time, possible family/friend connection to their attorney.
I think they "trust" him for whatever reason.
They chose him for a reason, from their home town.
JMO

 

[ArmChairDet]

You guys, you know how it’s perfectly legal for police to lie to subjects during an investigation? I’m wondering a similar thing about lawyers talking to the media. Are lawyers ethically/legally obligated to tell the truth on tv or in statements? Or are they allowed to muddy the waters?

I’m asking this in relation to BL’s parents lawyer who claimed in the last couple days he left his house without a wallet or phone. I’m just wondering if there’s any imperative that suggests this *has* to be true.

I wouldn't see any reason it wouldn't be true. Cell phone could be tracked, any cards can't be used, and I don't think the ID is of much value.

 

[labradoodlelover]

Am I the only one that thinks BL is dead and the gators got him?

Plausible...