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Thanks for writing this. As a new poster, I wasn't sure if there was some "rule" on Websleuths about stating your opinion, or if people were just being rude when they responded with "because spouting off opinions is easier than digging up facts". Now I know it's the latter. If folks want to...

Thank you! I knew I'd read this somewhere.

We can all have a differing take on it, since it's always going to be speculative, since anyone who could confirm is now dead. :-( My reasoning for thinking Savvas was trying to send a message of distress was there would have been no real reason for him to have called Guitterez Wednesday...

We don't know if Gutierrez called Vera's husband or not, I don't think, because I don't think that has ever been put out there by the media. And, if she did, it would have had to have been the next morning/Thursday anyway, because that's when she checked her phone and retrieved the voicemail...

I agree with you. NS had been cleaning for the Savapouloses' for 20 years. That's quite a long time. She would have been around when the first daughter was born and subsequently. During the 20/20 interview, NS was crying and said how much she missed the family and how terrible she felt for the...

[Bolding mine in the above quote] The 20/20 piece last night was very informative, if not a little over the top, in my opinion (I fast forwarded through Nancy Grace's parts because, for me, she was adding nothing to the narrative except being inflammatory). I found the information on Wint's...

Like you, I looked at each one of those pictures of Flip/Phillip with a sense of "honoring his memory". The one that crushed me was the one of him looking on at the little box turtle that he placed on a skateboard. I just imagine the conversation he must have had around giving that turtle some...

I keep returning and lurking on this thread to see if there have been any additional breaks in this case. Because it's one of those cases that sticks with you - a happy, successful, handsome, wealthy, tight-knit family that seemingly had so much, and anyone would want to have as family or...

Thanks for this article. Sounds like it was the massive fire load that did them in. Given that a neighbor saw the fire and called 911 only shortly after the blaze started, and since these are homes that are not close to each other and are separated by acreage, that says, to me, that the fire was...

That's what is sticking with me as well. I understand the horrible blaze that would come from a dry, huge tree catching fire. But wouldn't alarms alert everyone that there was a fire, long before it turned into an inferno? Enough that perhaps they could have run to another wing of the house to...

Yes, it was a real tree. From the Gazette article: Officials also said they did not yet know what caused the initial spark or flame that consumed the tree. They noted the tree had been cut down 60 days before it caught on fire. Watching the NIST video, it was amazing to see how quickly an...

Goodness, so sad. And I've always been a bit paranoid about a live tree, even this year taking ours down before New Year's, much to my husband's dismay. I could see how a tree that tall - 15 to 20 feet - once lit would go up like a tinderbox and probably catch other things (carpeting, drapes...

Hmmm...the NBC4 news report yesterday morning said the cause of the blaze would be released today. I guess that was inaccurate information or they want to try to find the remaining body first. :-(

The fire department did deploy trucks with water pumps to dowse the blaze. The problem was that it took 2 hours for them to be operational. The fire was so massive, it took over a day to finally extinguish it. I think it's hard to get your head around just how big their house was. The...

I came to Websleuths to see if there was a thread on this horrible fire and to get an idea of what others are speculating. It's been all over the news here in the DC metro area. It seems 4 of the 6 bodies have been recovered now. Since I didn't see anyone else answer the question, the reason...