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Well firstly i didn't say a single word for you.
Secondly, no that is not the mentality of my world.
For the record i think what "Bruce" has done is a disgrace, once you have fathered children it is to late to suddenly decide to become a woman, there's nothing brave about the man, i feel for his kids and near family for the embarrassment and hurt he has caused them, whatever they say on the outside.
You made a statement of a global view ("the world"). I was trying to remind you that the whole world does not feel that way, and I certainly do not.
Agree to disagree.
Well but if the alternative is living unhappily and dishonestly pretending you're something you're not - denying the feelings that you're desperately unhappy in your skin, is that heroic?
Wow.....many people are unhappy due to mental disorders. Dealing with a mental or physical disability can be very challenging and heroic. Dressing in evening gowns with heavy makeup and photoshopping is not heroic in my opinion.
Beautifully said.Well we completely agree about that, it's not makeup and photoshopping that I consider potentially heroic about transgender people transitioning. It's more the part where someone is being courageous and honest to his or her own self and face the prejudices despite the fact that the opposition of the world may sometimes be quite brutal and hateful.
I am an extremely tolerant person and very accepting of people's differences. It just concerns me when we can become so comfortable with mental disorders. There are people who think they are aliens.....are we discriminating against them if we don't accept their feelings?
I am all for people being their authentic selves and imagine it must have been torture to live like he/she has for so many years. I keep thinking of his children and step-children. It has to be hard adjusting to this extreme change. No matter how "worldly or sophisticated" they act - this has to be very hard to accept. I am 57 and I would struggle with it. Your dad is your dad and then he is someone called Caitlyn. As a parent I don't think I could do this if it hurt my kids and I think Caitlyn's debut on the cover of VF in a bustier was over the top. You know his kids are going to get the backlash for this.
In the end, people are persuaded not by what we say, but by what they understand.
John C. Maxwell
The above for me was key. I was raised in a fundamentalist group, you could talk to me until you were blue I wasn't going to even try to understand why people do some of the things they do - to me it was wrong period.
But I never stopped wanting to learn why this and why that. That inquisitiveness helped me to understand 1. right and wrong is subjective 2. my view of right and wrong is exactly that my view based upon a religious upbringing that was heavily ingrained.
Over time when I have a strong opinion of things I stop and start asking questions and look at the "other sides" point of view this helps me understand.
Understanding someones lifestyle and accepting it is ok, it doesn't hurt in fact it's like a lightbulb turning on. But this is my experience.
I have been wondering how does one explain transgendering to small children, like Caitlin's grandchildren? Mason is old enough to know something has changed as Caitlin still sounds like Bruce. How do you explain the change?
It can't be much different than explaining to children whose parent or sibling has sustained disfiguring burns or something that has made them unrecognizable? They sound the same, but don't look the same. I would imagine the gender change would be harder for a small child to understand or no?