CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #19

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  1. smr

    smr Former Member

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    Some seem to know when he lies and when he tells truth.
     
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    smr Former Member

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    rsbm

    Yet in the summer/fall when DK started his own business Nexxus, he asked for JM's help, according to Patrick.
     
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    I am talking about MM going to Joey's. I thought he was questioned about it on the stand. Not the 6th but the 4th.
    Am I losing it? I don't think so.
     
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    @Mica . Thanks for posting that email between JM and DK. Didn't want to quote the whole interchange.
    I found these comments interesting:
    DK. I know you don't like confrontation. ( Speaks to Joey's demeanor).
    After his financial threat...I wish the best to you and your family.
    DK. You are lazy. Smart but lazy. (this cracked me up coming from a single, surfer dude. No clue what life is like married with 2 young children to support).
    Last but not least, further on in the video, whatever happened to the neighbor who saw a white truck in the driveway?
     
  5. la2cabo

    la2cabo Well-Known Member

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    Snipped by me

    In all of that there's not one word about DK physically harming Joey and his family nor is there any indication whatsoever that Joey was afraid of DK physically harming him or his family.
     
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    Dr Rudin cracks me up. He said in the Mitchley video image "you're basically looking at just points of light....like a Christimas tree with lights. But you're not looking at a Christmas tree." LOL
     
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  7. missy1974

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    I think Mike said the 4th or 6th IIRC :) So, no, you are not losing it lol

    I also think it was Dugal that thought Mike was at Chick-Fil-A on the 4th, during Merritt's interview, there is a convo between Dugal/Fiske about it,.. this is from my notes, this is when Chase makes the comment that no one else was there (at their meeting... which some take literally meaning that no one else was in Chick-Fil-A LOL)... DuGal and Fiske talking to each other and saying 'did Michael say he was at Chick-Fil-A' and Dugal says 'yeah', she asks 'what time' ... 'lunch'.. F: 'maybe it was before'... then she asks who went their first, you or him.
     
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    Thanks very much for that, Mica, I knew I could count on you to post it for me!! :D I'm going back to read the posts as I'm sure there's a post or two that I need to respond to in regards to Joey's email. :D
     
  9. smr

    smr Former Member

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    The parenthetical part is your own addition. We don't know what Joey's demeanor was.

    Something like, for example: "If you offend me, hey, I know how to burn down a house. Good luck!"

    There was no indication whatsoever that Joey was afraid of CM.
    DK made threat to Joey. CM never did.
    Was physical threat entailed in DK's threat? Hard to say. But CM never made any threat to Joey, physical or otherwise.

    It was a threat, and Joey said "Now, I, Summer & Kids know the "Real You" and what you would potentially do to harm me and my family". Serious enough?
     
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    Okay! I have read Joey's email again and I stand by my original post, "A good friend would never threaten (and I'll add, in any way, shape or form) another friend and their family. We do not know that DK never threatened Joey of physical harm. One of the reasons I say that, is, I noticed in the IM's between DK and Joey, DK wants Joey to ring him, he appeared not to really want to IM, his (DK's) preference of communicating was by phone. Oh he's cunning alright and I believe Joey was familiar with the verbal abuse and threats of physical harm DK would resort to over the phone and Joey being the smart guy he is, preferred to IM so he would have proof if he ever needed it. Smart guy. IF it was DK on trial instead of CM I've no doubt the prosecutors would have a field day with him too! ALL MOO
     
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    Missy, you are going to love Rudins testimony. He is shredding Liscio, lol.

    IMO
     
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    Starting from Part 2, 37:40, Rudin discussed the "holes" in Liscio's testimony ("Swiss cheese, a lot of holes" :cool:)

    Part 2 @38:27 Imes: "Objection..." Rudin: "I just complimented him." :D
     
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    Snipped and BBM
    "Serious enough?" Sure, if one wants to take it completely out of context.
     
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    Shush, Liscio is Missy's Canadian compatriot! ;)
     
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    oh dang, I am not there yet... LOL I am so disappointed that we didn't get video for this! I went back to the 402 hearing and grabbed a pic of Merritt's truck with the points that Rudin/McGee are referencing lots... hopefully this helps a bit for others to follow. (which now that I went to upload I realize I already had one haha)
     

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    I wish I could listen. Unfortunately my speakers decided they don't want to work so I'm relying on all of you good peeps to post the high lites. Thank you in advance. :)
     
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    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    I'm in Western Canada... his from Eastern Canada.. almost like a different country :D:D
     
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    Not sure if I'm counted among the "good peeps", but here is what I can help a little:
    Part 2 @48:00 Rudin on Liscio's work:
    "If you allow this error, you can match anything to anything. But that's not the worst part..."

     
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  19. Mony Mony

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    Cabo, he is just getting into the meat of his shred, and now we are on break till tomorrow. Basically, Rudin disagrees with Liscios WHOLE conclusion because Liscio used some software that is not made for photogrammetry. He is back on tomorrow morning to continue.

    IMO
     
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  20. Force Ten

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    Watch the trial videos. There's well over a hundred.
     
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