Concernedmamaof3
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What if the nurse says PF killed KB, and PF says the nurse did it?
What does the evidence say in that case? Whose story does it fit?
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What if the nurse says PF killed KB, and PF says the nurse did it?
This is a hypothetical question...Let's say the nurse from ID really did dispose of the phone and maybe sent the texts under PF's directions but didn't actually participate in the murder. She goes to LE to report what she knows. Could she cash in on the reward money?
What if the nurse says PF killed KB, and PF says the nurse did it?
What if the nurse says PF killed KB, and PF says the nurse did it?
I am hoping by now they have alot of technical data, phone records, computer records etc. JMOI’d assume those three solicitation charges would weigh the scales in her favor, right? Unless she’s the solicited one and their only proof is her word.
But I think they’ve got some kind of other evidence, communications or a separate cooperating witness, that supports the three solicitation charges. MOO.
Regarding the open mines out here (I couldn't reply to the previous thread after it was closed) I'm thinking that he may have went away from his area & Cripple Creek to Divide Colorado, which sits on the north slope of Pikes Peak on U.S. Highway 24. When you take a ride through Divide on this highway you can literally SEE many old open mines from the road, cut deeply into 'the lay of the land', just sitting there with old wooden boards supposedly closing the openings. It would be very easy to walk or drive up to one and remove the boards.
MOO - P isn’t saying a word. I have a friend who’s favorite quote is “ What you do speaks so loudly, I cannot hear what you are saying.”I would say so. Texts & calls back & forth, perfectly time stamped.
Tighten your saddles, I think it possible P is gonna make the nurse look like the perp, the jealous, scorned woman that hated K.
MOO
I think CB said (regarding PF and KB's relationship) that they were loving towards one another ONLY because PF had baby K.
I believe she was afraid of what he might do if he knew LE thought him responsible for the murder of KB. That's the ultimate control, right? Killing the baby.
Her comments about them having a loving relationship were only to keep the baby safe until he was arrested.
I was not clear as to what was being withheld from PK. I thought it would be the stuff on Jan 29 laying out the charges and evidence. Now I am of the mind that it was the stuff at the recent hearing dealing with what the 5 charges were. And there was a big deal made about the charges not being read, only handed out. Everything is clearer now. I don't know what the big deal is about violating his constitutional rights, he will know the charges eventually. The prosecution might be just trying to get more time for the investigation. IMO
And the comment by the police chief as to they are narrowing down the search means someone has told them where to look for the body.IMO
I was not clear as to what was being withheld from PK. I thought it would be the stuff on Jan 29 laying out the charges and evidence. Now I am of the mind that it was the stuff at the recent hearing dealing with what the 5 charges were. And there was a big deal made about the charges not being read, only handed out. Everything is clearer now. I don't know what the big deal is about violating his constitutional rights, he will know the charges eventually. The prosecution might be just trying to get more time for the investigation. IMO
And the comment by the police chief as to they are narrowing down the search means someone has told them where to look for the body.IMO
This to me is very interesting. They must have some reason for placing baby K with CB in a different state. It could be as innocent as keeping her away from the media spotlight or something about CB (disability, age, etc.). I don’t want to even think it is a more sinister reason and relates to some sort of dysfunctional home life.
There have been several people who have stated he took the baby to work with him. I don't doubt that he had other people watch her when it wasn't convenient for him.Investigate this man and his wife before deciding their words are unbiased and truthful.
Re. the bolded bit : Hmmmm..... Alone with her for 20 years. Must have forged a very close bond ?
What is concerning is that even if SF gets custody of the baby, is she (SF) going to fight tooth and nail to keep the little one from seeing the other family ?
What if SF thinks that somehow the Berreth's 'destroyed' her son's life (i.e., if she feels he could be innocent).
love that!MOO - P isn’t saying a word. I have a friend who’s favorite quote is “ What you do speaks so loudly, I cannot hear what you are saying.”
I’d assume those three solicitation charges would weigh the scales in her favor, right? Unless she’s the solicited one and their only proof is her word.
But I think they’ve got some kind of other evidence, communications or a separate cooperating witness, that supports the three solicitation charges. MOO.
Let’s not forget LE made a specific request to Truckers to be wary and on the lookout. Why is that? We now know there are more people involved. The sphere is widening, first Idaho Nurse, so thinking of overlapping circles.....I wonder if there is something there? MOO speculation....I agree. I don't think Cripple Creek/Victor is a viable area. It's all private property, most of the area where the old mine shafts are is owned by the currently operational HUGE mining corporation, and even the smaller private property owners in that area are very vigilant about trespassers these days. I could certainly be wrong but it just doesn't seem that accessible to me.
Divide is a better bet as you say. I also feel very strongly about the areas around Guffey and down toward South Park, Park County, and the Fremont County line. Lots of open mine shafts, lots of open land, lots of cattle grazing, and not so many people. And most importantly, photos from PF's now-defunct FB look to me like they were taken in this area. You seem familiar with the area, @NoeticSoul, what are your thoughts?
I've posted this map before, but the areas I'm thinking of on this map are the Fourmile, Guffey-Micanite, and Black Mountain historic mining districts, as well as the surrounding grazing and forest lands.
http://coloradogeologicalsurvey.org/mineral-resources/historic-mining-districts/park-county/
Let’s not forget LE made a specific request to Truckers to be wary and on the lookout. Why is that? We now know there are more people involved. The sphere is widening, first Idaho Nurse, so thinking of overlapping circles.....I wonder if there is something there? MOO speculation....
IMO Social Services coordinated the baby pick up during the arrest - I don't think the families did anything other than CB agreed to take custody temporarily - as Gitana has told us, there is a mandatory hearing time upon the government taking the child. They held the hearing to confirm the placement of the baby temporarily if I understand the process in CO.I think one factor is she beat the Fs to court over custody. The Fs May have felt “we have her”, not thinking they needed to legalize things. In the meantime, the B family had the ball rolling.
I think one factor is she beat the Fs to court over custody. The Fs May have felt “we have her”, not thinking they needed to legalize things. In the meantime, the B family had the ball rolling.