Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

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  1. Stunned

    Stunned Your past explains you, It does not excuse you

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    Oh, like she stands a chance in hell with the baby!
     
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    Seems a horrible twist of fate for them to meet and produce children just so they could torture them. They were perfectly horrible for each other. It seems together they became their most sadist sick. JC lost custody of her first son because of the evil they were together

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  3. Stunned

    Stunned Your past explains you, It does not excuse you

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    Must have been hard on her to be the normal one in her relationships!
     
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    @nyvictoria sorry it has taken me so long to respond to your question in the last thread. Yes you read correctly.
     
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    Stunned Your past explains you, It does not excuse you

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    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    Yes we do! From the link:

    If the father is able to care for the newborn, they would have custody of the child," Strokosch said. "If there isn't a father available and absent other plans, DCFS becomes involved. We would work with the courts to create a plan for the child based on the best interest of the newborn."
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    The family of the father has rights like the maternal side.
    Possibly JC/bio dad have already had tests to prove paternity, they could have done so early on.
    Obviously someone’s convinced Drew’s not the father, per article. I’ll if JC’s word would be enough for msm to exclude him. Notice “court documents obtained say Drew is not the father.”
     
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    Reminder not to sleuth family members and/or people who have not been officially named a POI/suspect. You may discuss what is said about them or by them in MSM, but you may not sleuth out their background / personal details.
     
  9. nyvictoria

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    With AJ gone I think P probably would have been subject to escalating abuse. She abused the older son, abused AJ and abused the dog. There was so much dysfunction going on, I don’t see how P could possibly escape it. And with a new baby on the way P would have quickly fallen out of favor.
     
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  11. nyvictoria

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    I don’t think Munchausen by Proxy applies here. Labeling AJ with a dx of ODD was simply an excuse for her abusing him. Saying he was so defiant, she had to beat him. I think she posted pictures of him with injuries because she either couldn’t appreciate the severity of his injuries and/or she thought people would buy into her excuses. She said the burns were from AJ pulling a pot of boiling water off the stove. She was confident ability to explain it all away.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    Thank you for that brief moment of levity!!
     
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    The obit was posted in the Northwest Herald on March 8, 2006, but it is behind a paywall & cannot be viewed
     
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    nyvictoria Well-Known Member

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    Clear your browser history
     
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    Looking at this I would guess that the family would be considered first if adopting the unborn child comes to fruition.
    "Adoption by Relatives Approximately 11 states21 require in statute or regulation that state agencies give preference to relatives when making adoptive placements for children in their custody.22 However, in three states, if the child has been placed in foster care with a nonrelative and has been living with the same foster parent for significant period of time when he or she becomes available for adoption, the nonrelative foster parent may be given first preference to adopt.23 In the statutes or regulations of approximately 35 states, when a parent places the child directly with a relative, the laws provide for a streamlined adoption process, such as not requiring a preplacement assessment or home study unless specifically ordered by the court.24 In 11 states, the child must have resided with the relative for a period of time or have established a significant relationship with the relative in some other way.25 All states require checks of criminal history records and child abuse central registries for the adopting relatives and other adult household members.26"
    The reference numbers at the site include the states that correspond.
    https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubPDFs/placement.pdf
     
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    Its nice to read so many people showed up to celebrate AJ’s short life. I’m sad that yet one more child had to die to bring attention to the shortcomings of DCFS. While we here at Websleuths are all too aware of the many children who are murdered by their supposed caretakers, I don’t think the general public has any idea how often it happens. I hope it’s inspired people to get involved.
     
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    I wonder if she even had prenatal care for this pregnancy?
    A lot of addicts won’t see a doctor, preferring to avoid WD, presenting at ER for delivery. She’s now under the care of an OB, as the county jail surely wishes to avoid future lawsuits & they would need to know appx due date, etc. Moo
    I highly doubt either boy was taken to pediatric appointments, I have wondered if she even followed a vaccination schedule. I don’t see how she could have scheduled an appointment, not knowing if AJ would be bruise/injury free at appointment time.
     
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    Don’t quote me but I think I read that people in the community want to put a memorial park there
     
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    Victoria17 Well-Known Member

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    A.J. wouldn’t have to get vaccinated again until he started kindergarten. His foster parents probably did all that seeing they had him until 18 months old.
     
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