Found Deceased MO - Nicholas Diemel, 35, & Justin, 24, brothers missing, Clinton County, 21 July 2019 *ARREST*

[Blondie in Spokane]

From the article (BBM):

Taylor Moeller knew instantly it was bad.

As soon as her boyfriend, Justin Diemel, didn’t answer her calls at 11:24 a.m. on July 21, she sensed something terrible had happened.

So something bad happened to the brothers between 11am (call to an employee) and 11:24.

Oh, that quote sent chills up my spine. I wonder what all was discussed about this business trip beforehand. Sounds like there were legitimate concerns. IMO

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

From the article (BBM):

Taylor Moeller knew instantly it was bad.

As soon as her boyfriend, Justin Diemel, didn’t answer her calls at 11:24 a.m. on July 21, she sensed something terrible had happened.

So something bad happened to the brothers between 11am (call to an employee) and 11:24.

Oh, that quote sent chills up my spine. I wonder what all was discussed about this business trip beforehand. Sounds like there were legitimate concerns. IMO

In roughly 20 mins the situation went form 'everything was fine' to no answer, the brothers were probably dead at that stage, I can't help wondering if the employee felt something was amiss and raised concerns? JMO

 

[Turnuptime]

It's my opinion that the brothers could of been subdued by a Hot Shot or Cattle Prod. There is No Doubt in my mind they would of done anything to protect each other. A cattle prod is not considered a weapon that a felon can't pocess especially on a livestock farm. I doubt they would of thought anything about seeing one in someone's hand. In fact if I can get a photo to load, it will show how easy this would be.

I don't know how to get a photo from my tablet on here. If you look at the picture in the article referenced in post #877, the man behind JD is carrying a cattle prod. I just noticed that while reading the article. I started this post last nite and had mentioned my thoughts then. When I saw this picture it gave me chills. This is just my thoughts only. Both of the Diemel boys look pretty strong and able to handle themselves to me and not guys who would be easily overtaken unless a weapon of some kind was used.t.[/QUOTE]

I think the chances of a livestock prod used as a weapon in this case are very unlikely. If JN was carrying one when he was not working cattle, that would almost certainly be seen by the brothers as a threatening posture. If he did try to use it as a weapon it would have very limited power and effectiveness.

 

[Mw221]

@Mw221 re post 874
Sorry, I missed out on something.
"Misleading law enforcement' comments - made by whom? And when?
Is someone saying LE misled Nelson himself re this investigation?
Or that LE misled someone about Nelson?
Or ...?
Is a link handy, pls? TiA.

LE stated JN had mislead law enforcement, it was in quite a few articles, but here is one where it mentions it regarding his arrest.

Diemel brothers case now a death investigation, 1 person in custody after abandoning brothers' truck

 

[Warwick7]

From the article (BBM):

Taylor Moeller knew instantly it was bad.

As soon as her boyfriend, Justin Diemel, didn’t answer her calls at 11:24 a.m. on July 21, she sensed something terrible had happened.

So something bad happened to the brothers between 11am (call to an employee) and 11:24.

Was it am employee or a cousin?

 

[Warwick7]

I too h finding comments from LE that JN has Been trying to mislead LE

"Nelson is being held without bond, according to court records. Lund said he believed he wasn’t to appear in court in response to a summons because “he has tried to mislead law enforcement.”

Diemel brothers case now a death investigation, 1 person in custody after abandoning brothers' truck

 

[Warwick7]

"According to court documents, investigators believe Nelson is “a danger to the community” and “has tried to mislead law enforcement.”

Braymer man charged with stealing missing Diemel brothers truck; authorities say case is now a death investigation – KTTN-FM 92.3 and KGOZ -FM 101.7 Serving north Missouri

 

[indicolite22]

Was it am employee or a cousin?

An employee (BBM):

Diemel cousin Rob Krull and Diemel Livestock employee Rob Chupp traveled to Missouri to help with the search.

Chupp tells KMBC that he spoke with Nick and Justin at about 11 a.m. Sunday. They were at a farm, and on track to fly out of Kansas City at 1:50 p.m.

Bond hearing pushed back for man charged in Diemel case

 

[Warwick7]

An employee (BBM):

Diemel cousin Rob Krull and Diemel Livestock employee Rob Chupp traveled to Missouri to help with the search.

Chupp tells KMBC that he spoke with Nick and Justin at about 11 a.m. Sunday. They were at a farm, and on track to fly out of Kansas City at 1:50 p.m.

Bond hearing pushed back for man charged in Diemel case

Thank you...

 

[Warwick7]

"He has been in previous investigations, federally. That stuff plays an important role in continuing on any further crimes," Sheriff Fish said."

Someone said earlier that JN's past has no bearing on the Diemel brothers. Sheriff begs to differ I dare say.

Human remains found during search for missing Wisconsin brothers

 

[Amyk63]

Was it am employee or a cousin?

Both. Their cousin is their employee.

 

[Justiceforreena]

Was the father of sitting in jail also a convicted cattle thief? Interview with the mother is nauseating. She "wishes this would all go away!" Seriously?? The Diemel family probably has the same wish!!! Glad Missouri has death penalty. Waterboarding would be just fine IMO.

 

[Justiceforreena]

"He has been in previous investigations, federally. That stuff plays an important role in continuing on any further crimes," Sheriff Fish said."

Someone said earlier that JN's past has no bearing on the Diemel brothers. Sheriff begs to differ I dare say.

Human remains found during search for missing Wisconsin brothers

Has anyone else noticed the mom of JN never questioned why the police were there?

I hope there was no machine involved. Or at least that they were deceased prior to the machine if that was the case.

It's just unthinkable!! IF he gets the death penalty he'll get a last dinner, muscle relaxer & be knocked out so he feels no pain!!!! Bring him to WI. Save tax $$$

 

[Justiceforreena]

From the article (BBM):

Taylor Moeller knew instantly it was bad.

As soon as her boyfriend, Justin Diemel, didn’t answer her calls at 11:24 a.m. on July 21, she sensed something terrible had happened.

So something bad happened to the brothers between 11am (call to an employee) and 11:24.

I hope she can help Nick's wife carry on the business. Justin's half is owned by his parents.

 

[jaylyn0220]

Was it am employee or a cousin?

There are two men with similar names. One is an employee and one is a cousin (possible employee as well). Last names of Krull and Chupp.

 

[Warwick7]

Quotes from article:

"Nick was the strongest person she’s ever met, Lisa said."

"He wasn’t afraid speak his mind, and was quick to stand up for what’s right and the people he loved, she said."

"He taught the children to hunt, fish and play sports. When they went to an arcade in town, she said, Nick almost seemed to buy more tokens for himself than for the kids."

“Nick was like a big kid,” Lisa said. “He thought he was a basketball star even though he was short as can be.”

"The night before the brothers disappeared, Lisa said, the power went out at their home in Wisconsin. The area was placed under a tornado warning."

"On the phone, Nick asked her how the kids were and whether they were driving her crazy."

"The next morning, he told her he would be home soon."

https://www.kansascity.com/news/state/missouri/article233488327.html

 

[al66pine]

Whose 'half'?

I hope she can help Nick's wife carry on the business. Justin's half is owned by his parents.

@Justiceforreena Thanks for your post.
Not to nitpick (well, okay, maybe I am), but posts on this site state, or at least suggest, each brother owned half of the business. While it would commonplace for each of two brothers to own half of a co. named "XYZ Brothers LLC," not necessarily true. Not enough info from corporate filings* w St. of WI, to tell, who owned what %.

If Justin owned half or some other percentage, it was an asset, he could transfer, for ex., by will or a trust. Is it poss he had a will and named girlfriend as beneficiary for that particular asset, or part or all of his estate? She may receive something from him. Or not.

OTOH, if parents owned half (or the percentage of LLC that the older brother did not own), then there was no "Justin's half" or percentage that Justin could transfer while alive or on his death.

Hoping transfers/transitions - whatever they are - go smoothly. All these families and loved ones have too much to cope w as it is.

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* Results from searching St. of WI corporate listings:
Diemels Livestock LLC.
Orig. filing, May 6, 2015. Registered Agent: Nicholas J.Diemel w Bonduel, WI address.
info from WDFI-Corporations
WI Corporate Records Search
then in "Search Corporate Records" type "Diemels Livestock LLC"

(Another 'Diemel Livestock' entity has different first name and Pulaski, WI address)

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

Nelson Running the Farm? Terms of Release from Prison?
^snipping for focus^ Not sure I follow ^ post correctly.
When did TF 'start the farm in her name' in order to let JN run it? After his release from prison? Or ...?
Not trying to sleuth her, but trying to determine how much control over the farm property/real estate and the farming operation Nelson had, and when he gained it.

A sleuther posted the Catawba Rd. farm was where Nelson was raised (Sorry no link).
If so, did TF live there during his childhood?
At that time, was she the owner or a part owner (for ex: tenant by the entirety, joint tenant, tenants in common, beneficiary of trust, etc.) of that property?
If so, then seems TF did not "start the farm in her name in order to let JN run it."

Help, pls, @inmyhumbleopinion (or?) did you link? I just did a quick search for link to ---
- document w terms of his release from prison and could not find.
- document re control of farming operation, something like J4S or 4JS?
Thx in adv.

So sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner! I will be moving this coming Friday, so it’s been pretty crazy around here . I have to go soon, but will check back in tonight. I will go ahead and post the entire judgement, in case anyone is interested :



Also, the document below consists of two sections: first, “Valuation of implements and equipment owned by Garland “Joey” Nelson and estimation of potential recovery if liquidated,”
and second, “Valuation of Implements and Equipment owned 50% by TF [Nelson’s mother] and 50% by Garland “Joey” Nelson.



The part in the document I find most interesting (and deeply disturbing) are the footnotes. They show just how far Nelson went to deceive the government (USDA/FSA), and it’s staggering.

Nelson: “I didn’t commit a crime.” Yes, he definitely did.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

My apologies if this has already been posted (I’m not caught up yet).

IPTV has updated the “Life After Leavenworth” story:
“July 26, 2019 - The Caldwell County, Missouri Sheriff has arrested Joey Nelson in connection with a death investigation of two farmers from Wisconsin who have not been heard from since Sunday.

[SBM]

He was released in March 2018, and was trying to resume his cattle feedlot operation at the time of the Market to Market interview.“
Life After Leavenworth: A Cattle Producer Shares His Story

 

[Mw221]

Whose 'half'?


@Justiceforreena Thanks for your post.
Not to nitpick (well, okay, maybe I am), but posts on this site state, or at least suggest, each brother owned half of the business. While it would commonplace for each of two brothers to own half of a co. named "XYZ Brothers LLC," not necessarily true. Not enough info from corporate filings* w St. of WI, to tell, who owned what %.

If Justin owned half or some other percentage, it was an asset, he could transfer, for ex., by will or a trust. Is it poss he had a will and named girlfriend as beneficiary for that particular asset, or part or all of his estate? She may receive something from him. Or not.

OTOH, if parents owned half (or the percentage of LLC that the older brother did not own), then there was no "Justin's half" or percentage that Justin could transfer while alive or on his death.

Hoping transfers/transitions - whatever they are - go smoothly. All these families and loved ones have too much to cope w as it is.

________________________________________
* Results from searching St. of WI corporate listings:
Diemels Livestock LLC.
Orig. filing, May 6, 2015. Registered Agent: Nicholas J.Diemel w Bonduel, WI address.
info from WDFI-Corporations
WI Corporate Records Search
then in "Search Corporate Records" type "Diemels Livestock LLC"

(Another 'Diemel Livestock' entity has different first name and Pulaski, WI address)

Sadly, in the state of Wisconsin, if a person has no will, all assets would go to the person’s next of kin (I.E. his parents in this instance for Justin, and wife for Nick). They would normally all have to go through the probate court if there were no will in place, which is why in order to even get the process going, Lisa had to first petition the court to have them declared dead, and then to ask permission to run the company, with Diemel parent’s permission (as they would be Justin’s half owners).

So sad that they had to go through all of this just to keep the the business afloat and the employees paid. I think they set a date to re-evaluate the business thing for January of 2020 if I remember what the article said.

Hopefully that helps if that is what you were looking for. I think the Diemel Livestock in Pulaski is their father perhaps....based upon the name as principal. IMO