OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) - #31

[Nickandnora]

Adding screen shot from same article by Chris Graves that states Hanna dropped S R at J W Apr 15

 

[amauet1]

Amauet1 I love your posts! I think you are a better researcher than I am, better than mos.t on here even. I haven't had a lot of time to get on here recently. Maybe things will calm down soon and free up some of my time. But keep digging. There has to be an answer, someone killed these people.

Looking forward to it! Your coming back! In a case that is so tragic, so discusting, and so serious I have to "joke" sometimes and "mess with" my fellow poster's, or I would go out of what little mind I have left. I hope I don't offend anyone with it.

 

[amauet1]

Yes, I noticed that, too about the toxicology reports. I wonder if they tested for more substances on them? Interesting too about GR having a different toxicologist, though that may have been necessary as there were so many tests to do at once.

KR's calluses might have been from work and/or gardening.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/10/15/pike-county-death-foothills/91496698/



bbm

Wonder why Kendra mentioned KR was helping her mom in lean times? Most people who have ex's don't worry about or stay involved with their ex"s. That's curious to me especially when there was a domestic violence order againest KR and his ex. Anyone know if Sta** Rig** only ex?

 

[jmt0189]

Also, I wanted to add that I recently read an article from an interview with Frankie's baby momma and it said that she lived at BBL at one point with her family and that is how she met Frankie..it also was stated she works there on the weekends.

T R, CR's sr older brother is in charge of maintenance at BBL he has been employed there for some time. I believe maybe 20 yrs, so there has been a connection for some time.

 

[Bootsctr]

Well, regardless of who said what about dogs, the one thing LE have confirmed is "The Ohio attorney general says whoever killed eight members from the same family in Ohio were familiar with the victims, their homes and the surrounding area." They've also said local people know more than they're telling police. https://www.10tv.com/article/dewine-killers-rhoden-family-familiar-victims-area

If I had the time and energy, I'd look at the question of why certain family members homes were targetted, compared with family members who were not. For eg, why DR's home, but not her father close by. Why KR, but not his ex-wife and kids. Perhaps someone has done this?

This post makes me wonder about LM and son. Maybe going down the rabbit hole, but something just isn't sitting right with me about JM and the text messages that JW said NEVER happened. There was a picture in a Daily Mail article that really haunts me. I cannot, for the life of me, find it now. But, it was taken of the Manley's front porch in a porch swing. LM, Dana, Hannah, ChrisJr, and Frankie were all in that one picture. The only one left living in the picture is LM. It's just a very sad photo when I look at and think that all the youngsters in that picture are dead - murdered in the dead of night by someone they likely knew and trusted. And my thoughts regarding multiple gunshot wounds was that one weapon was a smaller caliber, possibly a .22. I know some posters have stated this information previously after the interview with KR's father. There was definitely a reason the children were spared and I can't decide if it was because the murderers had a heart or there was something to be gained by not murdering the children - monetary or property wise. And in hindsight, that 911 call, absolutely sounded like someone setting up an alibi. Just wishing the truth would come out sooner rather than later. There is certainly no sense of urgency to solve the murders. It's sad, really sad because I don't think the victims were awful, horrible people. I think they were a lot like every day, hard-working people just trying to make in this old world. :sigh:

 

[Nickandnora]

Wonder why Kendra mentioned KR was helping her mom in lean times? Most people who have ex's don't worry about or stay involved with their ex"s. That's curious to me especially when there was a domestic violence order againest KR and his ex. Anyone know if Sta** Rig** only ex?

S Rig has remained good friends with the Rhodens, and was on good terms with KR, she has said once a Rhoden always a Rhoden.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I am still digging but this post always stuck in my mind:

Back on thread 11
PCAP post #777
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]I can't get the past the fact that all of the crime scenes are connected to BBL via the woods. I think that's how the killer/s travelled. At least to get to the three sites closest to each other. KR is the exception. JMO.
[/FONT][/FONT]https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?307281-OH-Pike-County-8-people-from-one-family-dead-as-police-hunt-for-killer(s)-11/page16

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText-SemiboldItalic]This is not the exact link but close enough:
CR sr had a health solutions set up with his physical address but bbl PO Box [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]Adams Health Solutions, LLC is not listed anywhere with the BBL PO as far as I know. CR Sr. formed Adams Health Solutions in 2009. He is the agent, and his Union Hill address is listed on the Ohio Secretary of State's website. However, the link below is one example of what pops up if you Google Adams Health Solutions, LLC. A number of business info websites list the address as 100 Grove Street in Peebles. I'm not sure why. [/FONT]http://www.smallbusinessdb.com/adams-health-s...[/FONT]

Finally link to Robin Waddell speaking reguarding having known generations of the Rhodes family:
Twenty miles south of Piketon, Big Bear Lake Family Resort owner Robin Waddell has known the Rhoden family for decades, ever since Christopher Sr. started working at the resort — building decks or roofs, excavating, whatever needed done.
Waddell would hire the elder Chris Rhoden whenever he needed construction. He was good, Waddell said. He was reliable. He was a friend.
“It’s devastating that something like this could happen,” Waddell said. “And we don’t know what happened.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/04/24/manhunt-mystery-follow-ohio-bloodbath/83469888/

:cow:

It is interesting that the IRS NAICS code for this business is 621999 which is classified as "Offices of all other miscellaneous health practitioners" listed under MD's and other specialist physicians indicating it likely was a doctor's office of some sort. JMO

 

[Betty P]

This post makes me wonder about LM and son. Maybe going down the rabbit hole, but something just isn't sitting right with me about JM and the text messages that JW said NEVER happened. There was a picture in a Daily Mail article that really haunts me. I cannot, for the life of me, find it now. But, it was taken of the Manley's front porch in a porch swing. LM, Dana, Hannah, ChrisJr, and Frankie were all in that one picture. The only one left living in the picture is LM. It's just a very sad photo when I look at and think that all the youngsters in that picture are dead - murdered in the dead of night by someone they likely knew and trusted. And my thoughts regarding multiple gunshot wounds was that one weapon was a smaller caliber, possibly a .22. I know some posters have stated this information previously after the interview with KR's father. There was definitely a reason the children were spared and I can't decide if it was because the murderers had a heart or there was something to be gained by not murdering the children - monetary or property wise. And in hindsight, that 911 call, absolutely sounded like someone setting up an alibi. Just wishing the truth would come out sooner rather than later. There is certainly no sense of urgency to solve the murders. It's sad, really sad because I don't think the victims were awful, horrible people. I think they were a lot like every day, hard-working people just trying to make in this old world. :sigh:

It will take a lot of evidence to convince me that some of the same people in that family photo were willing to kill the children and their own sister, daughter, etc. in that photo just for a few acres of mostly unimproved real estate. A lot of evidence. Can you imagine how difficult it must be for these family members, who are suffering and hoping for answers, to also have to deal with people online accusing them of murdering their own family members. :cry:

It would take a lot of depravity to commit such a crime and it's usually pretty easy to build a case against them fairly quickly. LE would have liked nothing more to be able to wrap the case up that quickly Two years of no arrests or answers tells us family members are not the killers.

 

[Betty P]

Adding screen shot from same article by Chris Graves that states Hanna dropped S R at J W Apr 15

I think Chris Graves made a mistake when she implied Hanna had already delivered her baby at that point. Farther down the page, there's a photo of HR with her baby and a caption that says she delivered the baby on the 17th. JMO, the part about her having the baby when she dropped off Sophia is just a reporting error.

 

[Betty P]

Thanks Nickandnora! :tyou:

[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]My mom and dad were the first of many generations to leave the farm in NE corner of Mississippi.The Rhodes feel like family to me. Hard working people that would never accept handouts but took care of family.People who tried to go to church,attended family reunions,marked Decoration Day and many more funerals than weddings.[/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]I feel I know everyone in Piketon and the individual that kinda reminds me of Keyser Soze from 'The Usual Suspects' is RW.[/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]I was doing more reading on the BBL and I can't help but feel RW lured these poor families into signing their souls away to feed his enterprises & $ laundering beast. [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]I'm attempting to work up the courage to read about what kinda stuff he had going in Florida. It will probably take years to to get though the way RW has used the BBL campgrounds to recruit the poor families in Piketon to do his bidding. RW skillfully deflects any detection from his 'businesses' so he smells like a rose.Gosh when I read his recollections of CHsr I thought if this guy didn't already own all the local politicians he could very well be one himself.I do not think I have the stomach to read much more about him tonight.

This is just my opinion(where's my :bodyguard: )and please feel feel to disagree.But be gentle.:scared:

If I don't check back in I'm in :hiding:

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I noticed how, in spite of the Rhoden's working so much for BBL, they still usually needed to have other jobs and businesses on the side (and some poss MJ grow ops) to make ends meet. We don't know, but it sure sounds like BBL was paying pretty low wages. Probably no benefits, either, just contract work or cash under the table. I really dislike companies that do that. JMO
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[MizStery]

It is interesting that the IRS NAICS code for this business is 621999 which is classified as "Offices of all other miscellaneous health practitioners" listed under MD's and other specialist physicians indicating it likely was a doctor's office of some sort. JMO

[FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]Just a heads up when referring to BBL and RW safer to jut use initials. (I think you got my drift ) :escape:
This is all from my scribbling notes while reading about this case over the last 2 years.
Back when I looked originally at Adams Health Solutions, LLC (this listed RW girlfriend initials (JW )as the name associated with AHS along with CRsr ) a number of businesses used the address 100 Grove Street in Peebles. RW (owned the property at one time). Also at one time several other medical businesses were operating out of that location. For the last few years, RW was leasing that space to a day care center. Later he sold the property to a person named McGraw? I believe.[/FONT][FONT=.SF UI Text]
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[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]His wife or ex-wife was a physical therapist they/she owned a Sports Med /Physical Thearpy clinic in southern Ohio. Not sure if she was still there at the clinic when it and number of other clinics were closed down. [/FONT][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]So any attempt to understand the holding of the BBL empire is very difficult because I believe it stretches even out of state of Ohio.But I have not looked at that.[/FONT][/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]I am going by my notes some of my article and videos are by now broken links. Please correct me if I have erred.

I know there are many who have followed this tragedy for years.

:cow:[/FONT]

 

[Betty P]

It is interesting that the IRS NAICS code for this business is 621999 which is classified as "Offices of all other miscellaneous health practitioners" listed under MD's and other specialist physicians indicating it likely was a doctor's office of some sort. JMO

When everyone first sleuthed that info, my first guess was that Dana R wanted to start her own home health nursing agency. Instead of working at a nursing home, she could be her own boss and possibly also employ Hannah. I'm not an expert, but I don't think it requires a lot of additional training and certification to be qualified to run one of these agencies. There are a lot of these "mom & pop" type home health agencies in our area and I'm sure they're in demand in rural areas with elderly populations.

That said, it doesn't sound like there would be a need to include Waddell in the mix, though he probably took his cut of everything. He may have also had different ideas for the business that the Rhodens weren't aware of.

 

[Betty P]

[FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]This is all from my reading over the 2 years I have followed this case:
Back when
I looked originally at Adams Health Solutions, LLC a number number of businesses used the address 100 Grove Street in Peebles. RW (owned the property at one time). Also at one time several other medical businesses were operating out of that location. For the last few years, RW was leasing that space to a day care center. Later he sold the property to a person named McGraw? I believe.[/FONT][FONT=.SF UI Text]
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[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]His wife or ex-wife was a physical therapist they/she owned a Sports Med /Physical Thearpy clinic in southern Ohio. I think it has since closed down. [/FONT][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]So any attempt to understand the holding of the BBL empire is very difficult because I believe it stretches even out of state of Ohio.But I have not looked at that.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text]
[/FONT][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]I am going by my notes some of my article and videos are by now broken links. Please correct me if I have erred.

I know there are many who have followed this tragedy for years.

:cow:[/FONT]

Let's keep sleuthing these business connections. I'm not much help tonight, been a busy day, but I'll try to check out some stuff tomorrow.

 

[amauet1]

Could someone go to https://wp2.pikecosheriff.com and check inmates list? There are a few on there that have charges "investgative custody and obstruction of justice". One has probation violation, gross abuse of a corspe, tampering with evidence. I haven't seen those kind of charges on there before. Also theft of certain property.

 

[Dudly]

When everyone first sleuthed that info, my first guess was that Dana R wanted to start her own home health nursing agency. Instead of working at a nursing home, she could be her own boss and possibly also employ Hannah. I'm not an expert, but I don't think it requires a lot of additional training and certification to be qualified to run one of these agencies. There are a lot of these "mom & pop" type home health agencies in our area and I'm sure they're in demand in rural areas with elderly populations.

That said, it doesn't sound like there would be a need to include Waddell in the mix, though he probably took his cut of everything. He may have also had different ideas for the business that the Rhodens weren't aware of.

I'm trying to remember for sure but I think that building that was supposed to be the Adams Health thing showed a daycare at the same address but there were no attendees no phone number or something which made that look like a fake business, also. I remember looking at that but I don't recall right off what that was all about...
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[Dudly]

[FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]Just a heads up when referring to BBL and RW safer to jut use initials. (I think you got my drift ) :escape:
This is all from my scribbling notes while reading about this case over the last 2 years.
Back when I looked originally at Adams Health Solutions, LLC (this listed RW girlfriend initials (JW )as the name associated with AHS along with CRsr ) a number of businesses used the address 100 Grove Street in Peebles. RW (owned the property at one time). Also at one time several other medical businesses were operating out of that location. For the last few years, RW was leasing that space to a day care center. Later he sold the property to a person named McGraw? I believe.[/FONT][FONT=.SF UI Text]
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[FONT=.SF UI Text][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]His wife or ex-wife was a physical therapist they/she owned a Sports Med /Physical Thearpy clinic in southern Ohio. Not sure if she was still there at the clinic when it and number of other clinics were closed down. [/FONT][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]So any attempt to understand the holding of the BBL empire is very difficult because I believe it stretches even out of state of Ohio.But I have not looked at that.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=.SF UI Text]
[/FONT][FONT=.SFUIText-Semibold]I am going by my notes some of my article and videos are by now broken links. Please correct me if I have erred.

I know there are many who have followed this tragedy for years.

:cow:[/FONT]

hen I was looking into that Adams Health Solutions, there was a Daycare listed at that address but there were zero attendees listed on their site and no phone number or something else really odd about it. It looked like a fake business set up, too....
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[mamamumbles]

Could someone go to https://wp2.pikecosheriff.com and check inmates list? There are a few on there that have charges "investgative custody and obstruction of justice". One has probation violation, gross abuse of a corspe, tampering with evidence. I haven't seen those kind of charges on there before. Also theft of certain property.

Interesting and a lot of names I haven't seen before. I started sleuthing a bit but am getting tired. Will be all over this tomorrow!

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[Dudly]

After a year investigating, $10 million in drugs confiscated in bust that has connections to Mexican Cartel. Southwest Ohio is where the first arrest was made.
http://www.whio.com/news/charged-al...rom-mexico-middletown/3f4AztA78b7ciNJb4lUv2J/

 

[rsd1200]

Yes, I noticed that, too about the toxicology reports. I wonder if they tested for more substances on them? Interesting too about GR having a different toxicologist, though that may have been necessary as there were so many tests to do at once.

KR's calluses might have been from work and/or gardening.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/10/15/pike-county-death-foothills/91496698/



bbm

BBM

Could they have used a different one in trying to get his through so he could be taken across state lines for a timely burial? Kin may have wanted to attend other kin's funerals. Possibly a bit of compassion? Not likely, but, it was just a though.

 

[rsd1200]

Yes, its in the Death in the Foothills article linked above that Chris Graves wrote for the Cincinnati Enquirer. It said Chris, his brother and Gary all worked there, so assume that's Tony.

I thought he meant KR. CR1, KR, and GR. I knew TR worked there too, but I thought KR did too. I may be misunderstanding as I've not got it pulled up right now.