GUILTY Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #24

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    Interviewer: "Did you turn the computer on?"

    Joran: "Yes"

    Interviewer: "What happened?"

    Joran: "She got on the computer, and opened my e-mails"

    Interviewer: "I'm going to ask you something, and perhaps you can answer Yes or No (Joran nods in affirmation). You killed Tatiana Stephany Flores, right?"

    Joran: "Yes"

    Interviewer: "So, did that happen in the bedroom? in the bathroom? What happened then?"

    Joran: "No, nothing, didn't happen in the bathroom, nothing of that" (Joran's Spanish is not very good in this sentence, am translating literally). I guess he is trying to say: "No nothing happened in the bathroom"

    Interviewer: "How did you kill Stephany?"

    Joran: "First I got on the computer, and saw news with...with...ah...it hurt lots" (again, Joran has difficulty finding the right words)

    Interviewer: "News that hurt you"

    Joran: "Yes, and I was talking about it with her [Stephany], and she me, me, ... (he was trying to say "me golpeo", but he couldn't find the right word, so interviewer suggested:

    Interviewer: "She hit you?"

    Joran: "Yes"

    Interviewer: "Where?"

    Joran: "On the head"

    continues in next post
     
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    Interviewer: "But, it was news related to what?

    Joran: "No" (Joran answers No before the question is well formulated)

    Interviewer: "related to your girlfriend?"

    Joran: "No, no"

    Interviewer: "Your fiance?"

    Joran: "No, it was something that happened five years, five years ago, and I'm talking about it with her, yeah, and so after she hit me, then I gol, gol (he is trying to say "he hit her back" Interviewer again suggested:

    Interviewer: "You hit her"

    Joran: "Yes"

    end of this video clip (it appears to me his motion means he first hit her with his elbow)
     
  4. Hazel

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    Found the original news article, with a longer VIDEO of Joran's confession:
    • Haven't done transcription from the 00:00 to 00:50 mark
    • Also, haven't done transcrition from the 08:48 mark till the end

    • Previous 2 posts: transcription from the 00:50 to 02:38 mark

    • Following transcription starts at the 02:38 to 08:48 mark
    Interviewer (Police) in BLUE -- Joran in DARK RED -- My comments in BLACK

    Link to Article and VIDEO (longer version) : http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1308441/noticia-video-esta-confesion-que-van-der-sloot-no-quiere-reconocer

    VOICE: According to JVDS, Stephany would have discovered in his computer news about the disappearance of NH five years ago, where VDS was directly involved as the prime suspect.
    He is out of control......his dark and violent side appears......and he did not stop until she is dead.
    Where did you hit her?
    On the..
    On the face?
    Yes
    With a closed fist?
    No, with my elbow
    You struck her with your elbow
    I was sitting on the bed...at that moment she started bleeding profusely from her....
    her nose?
    Yes
    Yeah, what happened next?
    I was very frightened
    You were scared?
    Yes
    Did you grab her by the neck?
    Yes
    Listen, after you struck Stephany on the face with your elbow, she then started insulting you.
    No, that first, yes (what he says after "No" doesn't make much sense, perhaps he is trying to say she first insulted him, then hit him on the back of his head, JMO)
    She hit you
    Yes, and my reaction was to hit her too.
    On the face?
    Yes
    She was bleeding
    Yes, way too much.
    You grabbed her by the neck?
    Yes
    With both hands?
    Yes
    On the bed
    Yes
    and then, where?
    On the edge, on the edge of the bed, but prior to that, ah, at that point I was not thinking anymore, cannot remember everything.
    (sorry, cannot translate what he is saying literally because it would not make any sense. Also I am not sure if Joran meant EDGE of the bed or the HEADBOARD. These are his exact words: "En el banda, en el banda de cama, pero primero con eso, ah, no se, no estoy pensando mas, no me acuerdo de todo")

    How long were you strangling her with your hands?
    I do not remember, maybe a minute, with two hands
    with both hands. How?
    With both hands, here, like this
    While you are strangling her ....
    (interruption)
    What follows is a bunch of gibberish, words are escaping him:
    "You got, pero yo golpee solamente soy (jalando brasa....aire), ahhh, yo me asusto mucho, yo, por eso yo he tomado a ella por la garganta"
    I believe he is trying to say:
    "he only hit her, and now he was hyperventilating, he was very scared and that is why he grabbed her by the neck"
    Did you hit her with your right or left elbow?
    With this one (Joran points to his right elbow)
    Show me how did you do it?
    Like this
    How much strength did you use?
    We were sitting side by side
    Yeah, and how did you do it?
    Could you repeat that?
    How did you do it?
    Like this, here (and Joran shows one more time)
    Towards the back, with lots of strength?
    Yes
    On her face
    On her face
    Show me again
    Like this
    Yeah
    (Interruption)
    seems to me following question means from moment they got to the hotel room)
    How much time went by before you started strangling Stephany
    Ah, a couple of hours....two hours...
    So it was daylight by then
    Yes...the sun...the sun was up...
    What did you do afterwards, after you see the girl is dead. What did you do next?
    I don't know, I was thinking what do I need, what could I do?
    (up to mark 06:00)
    So, what did you do to the girl? Was she wearing cloths? Was she dressed?
    Yes
    Then what did you do to her?

    Ah, yeah, I'm thinking what to do next, and I don't know why I lowered...
    You removed her pants?
    Yes, but I don't know why I did that.
    You don't know why you took her pants off?
    No
    (interruption)
    After you left your hotel room 309, what was the reason you asked the maintenance guy to open the door for you.
    Because I didn't have the key.
    Why did you buy two coffees?
    At that moment I didn't know what I was doing.
    You had no idea why? When you went back to your hotel room 309...yes?
    aha....aha
    with the coffees you just bought, what did you do once inside the room?
    hmmm...hmmm... (long pause here, he says something, but is not audible, I guess he could be saying he "moved")
    ...the girl into the bathroom, and I put a couple of...my stuff in a bag.
    (JMHO, but seems to me Joran was struggling to answer that specific question, and I got the feeling he was not telling the whole truth JMO)

    Did you take money from her?
    Yes, she had money.
    How much money did she have?
    S/. 800 Soles
    S/. 800 Soles or S/. 8,000 Soles?
    No, S/. 800 Soles
    You took from her S/. 800 Soles?
    Yes
    Listen, did you strangle her on the floor?
    On the bed
    On the bed. Where you on top of her?
    Could you repeat that?
    Was Stephany lying on her bed, and you were on top of her strangling her?
    ahh, yeah
    You were on top of her, and you strangled her with both hands
    Yes
    You were on top of her, and strangled her, is that right?
    Yes
    Until she lost her breath and died there.
    Yes
    In what condition were your clothes after you strangled her?
    (up to mark 08:48)​
     
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    Thank you so much for translation. We greatly appreciate the time and effort you expended to provide this information.​
     
  6. annalia

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    Me and Mr. Jones on Natalee Island
    http://www.meandmrjonesthemovie.com/


    The film-maker's Blog

    http://meandmrjonesonnataleeisland.blogspot.com/

    Dutch with English translation

     
  7. Cortne

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    He will nvr see the light of day again.
     
  8. annalia

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    http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/10454138/__Joran_is_nu_merknaam__.html?p=2,1


    Joran van der Sloot is now protected trademark



     
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    Omg seriously? Im speechless.



    What's the scoop on the Dr.McGraw /Kalpoe lawsuit? Any idea?
     
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    :banghead: With all due deference to Anita van Der Sloot Inc., I wonder if (registered trademark) schleped to (registered trademark) while ( registered trademark) was registering trademarks for (registered trademark).

    Obvously (registered trademark) has no respect for (registered trademarks). I wonder which (registered trademarks) take precedence?
    Do ethics even matter? Obvously not!
    :maddening:
     
  11. HMSHood

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    Exactly. How does his name become trademarked?
     
  12. annalia

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    Trade mark name : JORAN VAN DER SLOOT
    Trade mark No : 009191545
    Trade mark basis: CTM
    Date of receipt : 21/06/2010
    Number of results: 1 of 1
    Request an inspection
    Certified copy of the Application form Certified copy of the Registration Certificate

    Trade mark

    Filing date: 21/06/2010
    Date of registration: 14/12/2010
    Expiry Date: 21/06/2020
    Nice Classification: 9, 16, 35, 41 ( Nice classification)
    Trade mark: Individual
    Type of mark: Word
    Acquired distinctiveness: No
    Applicant’s reference: MM/GMK601
    Status of trade mark:
    Registered ( Glossary)
    Publication of registration
    ( Publication B1 or Publication B2)
    ( History of statuses)
    Filing language: Dutch
    Second language: English
    National search requested: No
    Graphic representation

    No entry for application number: 009191545.


    Description of the mark: -

    Owner


    Name: Anita O.M.A. Hugen - Van der Sloot
    ID No: 418053
    Natural or legal person: Physical person
    Address: Stadionweg 88 HS
    Post code: 1070 SR
    Town: Amsterdam
    Country: NETHERLANDS

    http://oami.europa.eu/CTMOnline/Req...eno=&source=search_basic.jsp&idappli=9191545#
     
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    Nice Classification: 9, 16, 35, 41



    Nice Classification: 9
    List of goods and services Scientific, surveying, photographic, cinematographic, optical, weighing, measuring, signalling, checking (supervision), life-saving and teaching apparatus and instruments; apparatus and instruments for the conduction, distribution, conversion, storage, regulation and management of electricity; apparatus for recording, transmission or reproduction of sound or images; magnetic data carriers, recording discs; automatic vending machines and mechanisms for coin-operated apparatus; cash registers, calculating machines, data processing equipment and computers; fire-extinguishing apparatus; electronic publications (downloadable);electronic publications, namely books, magazines, journals, newsletters, periodicals, newspapers, brochures, leaflets and other publications;computer software, hardware, electronic data carriers.

    Nice Classification: 16
    List of goods and services Paper, cardboard and goods made from these materials, not included in other classes; printed matter; bookbinding material; photographs; stationery; adhesive preparations for office use;or for household purposes; artists' materials; paint brushes; typewriters and office requisites (except furniture); instructional and teaching material (except apparatus); plastic materials for packaging (not included in other classes); printers' type; printing blocks.

    Nice Classification: 35
    List of goods and services Advertising; business management; business administration; office functions;merchandising, advertising and sales promotion;advertising agencies; promoting the goods and services of others over the Internet;bringing together, for others, of sound recording discs, electronic publications (downloadable), electronic publicaitons, namely books, magazines, journals, newsletters, periodicals, newspapers, brochures, leaflets and other publications, computer software, hardware, electronic data carriers, paper, cardboard and goods made from these materials, printed matter, book binding material, photographs, stationery, adhesives for stationery or household purposes, artists' materials, paint brushes, typewriters and office requisites (except furniture), instructional and teaching material (except apparatus), plastic materials for packaging, printers' type and printing blocks, enabling customers to conveniently view and purchase those goods, including such services provided online from a computer database; administrative processing of orders; opinion polls; recruitment of sponsors; commercial information; market canvassing, research and analysis; compilation and management of online databases and searchable online databases; organisation of trade fairs and exhibitions for commercial and advertising purposes; information and consultancy relating to the aforesaid services; all the aforesaid services whethr or not provided via electronic channels, including the Internet.

    Nice Classification: 41
    List of goods and services Education; providing of training; entertainment; sporting and cultural activities;publishing of books, magazines, journals, newsletters, periodicals, newspapers, brochures, leaflets, printed matter and other texts and publications;arranging and conducting of events;booking of seats for shows and events; film production; photography and photographic reporting; layout services, not for advertising purposes;drafting and writing texts, other than publicity texts; organization of competitions; editing of radio and television programmes; scriptwriting services; reporter services; organisation of trade fairs and exhibitions for cultural and educational purposes; information and consultancy relating to the aforesaid services; all the aforesaid services whether or not provided via electronic channels, including the Internet.
     
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    No problem LadyL...it's not complete, did the part where he confesses...didn't do the very beginning nor the last part when he is shown his bloody shirt with which he suffocated Stephany, which ultimately killed her :(

    As I said last year, J's accent ( pronunciation ) is actually very good. He has lots of difficulty with sentence structure and his vocabulary is very very limited, his grammar is awful as well as his use of pronouns, but J obviously understands the questions very well. The interviewer repeats many times to make sure he understood the questions. I'm sure after all these months in jail, his Spanish must have improved.

    Makes me sick seeing his calm demeanor, and smoking and drinking coffee/coke while he is admitting to killing Stephany, and showing how ... he only has a reaction when he is shown his bloody shirt...not sure if it is the sight of it or probably the smell :(
     
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    Hazel... thank you so much for your diligence in translating. Much appreciated!!

    So Anita trademarked JVS's name?! Yeah... there's a(nother) mother concerned with truth and justice. Pfft!! She and Cindy Anthony will serve their deserved sentences in hell together.
     
  17. LadyL

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    the one thing that worries me is that it seems to me the interviewer suggested some of the answers

    I don't read or speak the language so I hope that my perception is wrong
     
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    Virtually all interrogators do that all over the world including here. I doubt that will be a problem. I'm more concerned that they will accept his plea bargain and he'll only get 20.
     
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    http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2668...oorziet-Joran-van-tienduizenden-dollars.dhtml

    Aunt Sugar provides tens of thousands of Joran

    translated
     
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    http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/10654273/__De_suikertante_van_Joran__.html

    translated

     
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