Possible Victim: Jessica Taylor, 20, found Manorville July 2003 & Gilgo Beach Mar 2011

[Theforeigner]

Both KHALIL WHITE and AKEEM CRUZ was from BROOKLYN


http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-03-05/news/28673741_1_megan-waterman-akeem-cruz-gilgo-beach

FBI agents sought a search warrant this week to troll through the laptop of Akeem Cruz, a Brooklyn pimp and cocaine dealer, according to records filed in Brooklyn Federal Court.

Cruz, also known as "Vybe" and "Mello," was one of the last people known to have seen 22-year-old Megan Waterman alive when he pimped her out at a Holiday Inn Express in Hauppauge, L.I., around Memorial Day, according to her family and court records.

I have tried to find an address on Akeem Cruz but I have had no sucess
Anyone else have an address on him? if you do, please post it, or PM me.

Ok I tried again and I found an address on Akeem Cruz!!! it is:

29X Cozine Avenue Brooklyn 11207

Akeem Cruz address is located ca. 1 miles from Jessica Taylor's
pimp KHALIL WHITE's address:

KHALIL WHITE's address:
36x FOUNTAIN AVE #4 A
BROOKLYN, NY 11208

KHALIL WHITE's other Brooklyn address:
9x DE SALES PL
BROOKLYN, NY 11207
is located ca 3 miles from Akeem Cruz address.

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And this is 0.5 miles from my POI's Brooklyn address which is:
13xx E 85th St, Brooklyn, NY, 11236-5105[/quote]

 

[MrsPC]

as far as Brooklyn links - Bellmore victim Tanya Rush (who was dismembered/found in a suitcase) lived at 345 Livonia Ave Brooklyn.

 

[Dwntwnslim]

LE has *Not* confirmed that Tanya Rush is a victim of the LI perp(s).

If there are any links that state otherwise, please post them.

 

[MrsPC]

LE has *Not* confirmed that Tanya Rush is a victim of the LI perp(s).

If there are any links that state otherwise, please post them.

LE has *NOT* confirmed that Tanya Rush is *NOT* a victim of the LI perp(s).

If there are any links that state otherwise, please post them.

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there are reports that law enforcement was looking at possible links with her case.

 

[Dwntwnslim]

LE has *NOT* confirmed that Tanya Rush is *NOT* a victim of the LI perp(s).

If there are any links that state otherwise, please post them.

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there are reports that law enforcement was looking at possible links with her case.

That's great!

Please post the link(s) to the report(s).

Thanks!

 

[MrsPC]

That's great!

Please post the link(s) to the report(s).

Thanks!

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all ya haff to do is google it

http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/na...-could-be-linked-to-gilgo-beach-serial-killer

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for sending this in! Hopefully they'll find the girl who is missing.

I don't think this clown has anything to do with the murders, but if we could find out about any connections he may have had to the other victims, or even how he knew Jessica, we might be able to get closer to getting more info on the killer/killers.

This guy has photos with numerous references to a particular gang on his MS page. I've had a suspicion that Jessica and Peaches were victims of a different killer. Someone (can't remember who) has made comments about the way in which Jessica and Peaches were found, and how it sounds like a gangland killing.

I believe that was me. I've always felt that Manorville reeked of low level gang activity. Dead dogs...dead chickens...dead prostitutes. most of the "branded"...just kind of points to gang activity to me.

JMO

 

[Jenny9]

I believe that was me. I've always felt that Manorville reeked of low level gang activity. Dead dogs...dead chickens...dead prostitutes. most of the "branded"...just kind of points to gang activity to me.

JMO

hi mountain kat,i moved to manorville about 3 yrs ago and there are no gangs here.its just a rural type area where your neighbors are horses!there are alot of woods and alot of dirt roads and streets with no lights.mosly hunters in most of the woods when its in season fro deer,turkey,etc.also lots of atv riding out here.its actually a very nice area.peaceful and quiet except for the roosters!as far as dead dogs,chickens,deer,etc there are a lot of people who just dump stuff in the no light areas.

 

[marie-chantal]

hi mountain kat,i moved to manorville about 3 yrs ago and there are no gangs here.its just a rural type area where your neighbors are horses!there are alot of woods and alot of dirt roads and streets with no lights.mosly hunters in most of the woods when its in season fro deer,turkey,etc.also lots of atv riding out here.its actually a very nice area.peaceful and quiet except for the roosters!as far as dead dogs,chickens,deer,etc there are a lot of people who just dump stuff in the no light areas.

I'm also kind of leaning toward some sort of gang issue for the Manorville victims. I don't think that anyone here who shares that theory thinks that the gang activity is coming from Manorville itself. These victims were most likely killed elsewhere. Manorville is probably an attractive dumping ground for a killer due to its rural environment. These killers aren't going to dump bodies in the middle of NYC. They're going to go someplace more isolated so that they don't run the risk of getting caught. All of these places where the bodies have been found (AC, Manorville and GB) have been relatively isolated. The AC area is the one that is the least isolated, but the area where the bodies were dumped is in a very dark area.

 

[Jenny9]

I'm also kind of leaning toward some sort of gang issue for the Manorville victims. I don't think that anyone here who shares that theory thinks that the gang activity is coming from Manorville itself. These victims were most likely killed elsewhere. Manorville is probably an attractive dumping ground for a killer due to its rural environment. These killers aren't going to dump bodies in the middle of NYC. They're going to go someplace more isolated so that they don't run the risk of getting caught. All of these places where the bodies have been found (AC, Manorville and GB) have been relatively isolated. The AC area is the one that is the least isolated, but the area where the bodies were dumped is in a very dark area.

most gangs are in densley populated areas and they just kill each other and leave them where they are killed.right in the mddle of the street or in driveways,yards,etc.believe me they dont go to the trouble of hiding bodies or anything thats time consuming.check out brentwood,LI,wyandanch,bayshore,gordan heights,huntington station,this is where you will find most gang related murders being done and again they need to prove to rival gangs that they are number 1.most of these towns now have spot shotters so when a gun is fired they know where the shots are coming from,thats what gangs use...guns

 

[fred&edna]

That is a good point, Jenny9 (gangs use guns/leave them where killed)... and a good example is in this recent news story:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...-cons-killing-clash-brooklyn-article-1.456852

And, also of note... a victim (VB) in the story mentioned in the link above, had been arrested in Portland with AC (bf/pimp of MW). Arrest info here:

http://blog.scarboroughleader.com/2...arance-held-on-drug-charges--aug-20-2010.aspx

Then again, it could be that gangs operated differently in '99 - 2000. Maybe they used different methods? 'Dunno??

 

[Samantha Spade]

Jenny,
Research the Carina Saunders murder/dismemberment case. That beautiful girl was tortured and killed to set an example to the girl who was forced to watch. They were counting on the witness to warn the other "employees" to keep in line and do what they are told or else that may happen to them, instead she had the courage to warn the police. This is a recent case in Okahoma. The men who"allegedly" tortured, killed and dismembered her were in a gang running a prostitution drug ring.

Regarding the LISK case, I have always held on to the belief that the independent out of towners may have been used to set an example. I believe three of the girls wanted to get out of the business (Melissa B, Maureen BB, and Megan W.) and Amber's murder may be related to the LongIslandErotic threat on her life. JMHO.

 

[Aleph]

Regarding the LISK case, I have always held on to the belief that the independent out of towners may have been used to set an example. I believe three of the girls wanted to get out of the business (Melissa B, Maureen BB, and Megan W.) and Amber's murder may be related to the LongIslandErotic threat on her life. JMHO.

RSBM.

I agree that it's probably significant that the Gilgo victims were not native New Yorkers. I just can't figure out what it might mean.

We've never heard anything about any of the victims feeling intimidated prior to their disappearances. If the killer(s) were trying to sending a message, why wouldn't the pimps/boyfriends know about it? The pimps would be the ones to tell. If the pimps don't understand why their women are gone, they would just find another woman and put her on Craigslist. These pimps are strictly small-time; if they knew who had killed these women, they would have told the police by now.

 

[Samantha Spade]

Aleph,
Unless the romeo pimps are involved, or have some kind of idea who may be responsible. We aren't sure they are strictly small time. At least I'm not. That kind of business in that area and especially if drug dealing is involved, usually has a hierarchy.

 

[marie-chantal]

Aleph,
Unless the romeo pimps are involved, or have some kind of idea who may be responsible. We aren't sure they are strictly small time. At least I'm not. That kind of business in that area and especially if drug dealing is involved, usually has a hierarchy.

I think we can safely say that KW, Jessica's pimp is very much a small time nobody. He's not smart, and he's got a history of posting comments on websites containing articles discussing Jessica's murder. He's looking for information on her murder just like we are, which tells me that he doesn't know anything.

However, he does have those photos with gang references. It's possible that Jessica got involved with someone else/some other gang/someone more important. I do think that he could be helpful by discussing what he knew about Jessica in the months leading up to her death; who she was hanging out with, where she was working, who she was working for, etc.

I'm pretty sure this guy and Jessica had dealings with drug dealers who most definitely would have been part of a hierarchy. He's probably one to two degrees of separation from the killer. If he is part of a hierarchy, he is at the absolute lowest rung, IMO.

 

[Dwntwnslim]

RSBM.

I agree that it's probably significant that the Gilgo victims were not native New Yorkers. I just can't figure out what it might mean.

We've never heard anything about any of the victims feeling intimidated prior to their disappearances. If the killer(s) were trying to sending a message, why wouldn't the pimps/boyfriends know about it? The pimps would be the ones to tell. If the pimps don't understand why their women are gone, they would just find another woman and put her on Craigslist. These pimps are strictly small-time; if they knew who had killed these women, they would have told the police by now.

IMHO, an escort who is from out of town is part of the perp's selection criteria.

I would think (but don't know this for sure) that NYC escorts are less naïve and more street-smart than those from out of town. It might be easier for the perp to get less sophisticated, out of town escorts to meet him alone (without someone else around for protection).

MOO.

 

[Jenny9]

Jenny,
Research the Carina Saunders murder/dismemberment case. That beautiful girl was tortured and killed to set an example to the girl who was forced to watch. They were counting on the witness to warn the other "employees" to keep in line and do what they are told or else that may happen to them, instead she had the courage to warn the police. This is a recent case in Okahoma. The men who"allegedly" tortured, killed and dismembered her were in a gang running a prostitution drug ring.

Regarding the LISK case, I have always held on to the belief that the independent out of towners may have been used to set an example. I believe three of the girls wanted to get out of the business (Melissa B, Maureen BB, and Megan W.) and Amber's murder may be related to the LongIslandErotic threat on her life. JMHO.

was her body buried or hidden?i dont know anything about that case,but here on LI its highly unlikey,gangs here just shoot to kill and leave them where they are.and i am going to go all the way back to the victim in 1982 i believe was his first dismemberment kill.and she had nothing to do with prostituition or anything,she left a bar in west islip and was found a few days later on the ss pkwy.this is why moo i dont think it has anything to do with gangs or any rings this is the work of a SK that has been at work for many years and has left a low profile until sg let everyone know.if it was not for her the gb4 would not have been discovered at all.

 

[Redbird]

I think we have gone a little wild with the gang angle and have gotten way off track. There is a serial killer.

 

[Aleph]

I think we can safely say that KW, Jessica's pimp is very much a small time nobody. He's not smart, and he's got a history of posting comments on websites containing articles discussing Jessica's murder. He's looking for information on her murder just like we are, which tells me that he doesn't know anything.

However, he does have those photos with gang references.

RSBM. I agree with you about KW.

I don't know what to think about the gang photos. I am not familiar enough with gangs to gauge how serious they were. They did have a lot of people in them.

I do know that the main gangs are somewhat franchise-able. You can use the name and colors and start up your own mini-gang if there isn't already one in your area. So even if people are wearing colors, it doesn't necessarily mean they are hooked into anything like human trafficking on a grand scale, if these kinds of gangs are even involved in that.

There's a cultural cachet to posturing like someone from a rap song -- pimping, gang colors, etc. I think it's hard to tell from afar what is playacting and what is serious. I don't mean to minimize KW's obvious involvement in shady dealings. But I thought it was extraordinarily unsophisticated of him to go around posting that he is her pimp. I definitely think he's small time.

 

[Jenny9]

I think we can safely say that KW, Jessica's pimp is very much a small time nobody. He's not smart, and he's got a history of posting comments on websites containing articles discussing Jessica's murder. He's looking for information on her murder just like we are, which tells me that he doesn't know anything.

However, he does have those photos with gang references. It's possible that Jessica got involved with someone else/some other gang/someone more important. I do think that he could be helpful by discussing what he knew about Jessica in the months leading up to her death; who she was hanging out with, where she was working, who she was working for, etc.

I'm pretty sure this guy and Jessica had dealings with drug dealers who most definitely would have been part of a hierarchy. He's probably one to two degrees of separation from the killer. If he is part of a hierarchy, he is at the absolute lowest rung, IMO.

yes you are absolutly right when the ex-girlfriend of one gang member starts going out with another gang member from a different gang that means war.it happened in brentwood a couple of years ago.young woman was found dead with her 1 yr old child.she was killed by her ex for going to another gang.that happens.again it is to prove to the other gangs,dont touch my stuff.also she was not hidden just shot dead w/child.