GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #29 *Arrest*

[Eight]

I've considered that scenario and others that put her in the trunk right up front, but I just don't see enough time for all that to happen. Counting a walk of maybe 30-50 yards, it was only 3 minutes from the time they were last seen until his car exits the garage, per LE. I only see time for them to both get to his car and for her to willingly (and therefore quickly) get in his car for a ride to somewhere, with the bad stuff happening sometime later.

Well I can't figure out how they got a hit on a post in the garage, and why her texting came to a complete stop without a confrontation taking place in that garage.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I've considered that scenario and others that put her in the trunk right up front, but I just don't see enough time for all that to happen. Counting a walk of maybe 30-50 yards, it was only 3 minutes from the time they were last seen until his car exits the garage, per LE. I only see time for them to both get to his car and for her to willingly (and therefore quickly) get in his car for a ride to somewhere, with the bad stuff happening sometime later.

In 3 minutes I can't imagine enough time to
- walk all the way to the car
- argue, or hit her with the car, or whatever
- argue some more
- put her in the trunk over her struggle (in light of the bite mark, bruises, etc, she wouldn't have been unconscious but rather fighting back)
- have to secure her somehow, so she can't pull the trunk release and jump right back out
- get in the car
- drive to the exit and leave

But LE said she was in the trunk when he left the garage.

Page 9 Paragraph 1 states: Affiant further believes Arochi left the Shops at Legacy area and returned to his residence at xxxx Harvard Lane in Allen, TX. with Christina Morris in the trunk of his 2010 Chevrolet Camaro contrary to his statements that Morris was never in his vehicle.

https://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/380a-20141212-arrest-10-sw-arrest-return-sealed.pdf

 

[DietDrPepper]

I shudder every time I think about Jonni and JMOM going out searching. A parent shouldn't find their child's remains. Please... no more searching by the parents in the new year.

Clues could eventually be found by a tollway maintenance team, a landowner, a county work crew on the service roads, or sheriffs deputies who are investigating an entirely different case. While we are waiting for that to happen, thank goodness there are volunteer searchers who continue to clear more areas. IMO

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[Faithx2]

Well I can't figure out how they got a hit on a post in the garage, and why her texting came to a complete stop without a confrontation taking place in that garage.

You know you very well could be right. She asked or he "must have let her use his phone" (EA's wording) as they were walking so why would she not continue texting in the car as he was driving if she got in the car willingly?

I watched this kidnapping that was caught on surveillance. It happened in less then 3 minutes and he gets out of the car walks down the block to where she was walking when she got off at the bus stop and drags her back up the block, they also struggle outside the vehichle. He was hitting her and she was definately fighting back. Someone has brought this up before on the thread.

http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,20869125,00.html

 

[Helen_Ready]

But LE said she was in the trunk when he left the garage.

Page 9 Paragraph 1 states: Affiant further believes Arochi left the Shops at Legacy area and returned to his residence at xxxx Harvard Lane in Allen, TX. with Christina Morris in the trunk of his 2010 Chevrolet Camaro contrary to his statements that Morris was never in his vehicle.

https://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/380a-20141212-arrest-10-sw-arrest-return-sealed.pdf

Growing legs...page 4 of search warrant says LE TELLS US....CM was believed to be in his Camaro....doesn't say trunk.....trunk is brought up later in the warrant.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Growing legs...page 4 of search warrant says LE TELLS US....CM was believed to be in his Camaro....doesn't say trunk.....trunk is brought up later in the warrant.

It doesn't matter where it is stated in the warrant...it is. I copied it word for word and it clearly said she was in the trunk when he left the garage and went to his home.

Page 9 Paragraph 1 states: Affiant further believes Arochi left the Shops at Legacy area and returned to his residence at xxxx Harvard Lane in Allen, TX. with Christina Morris in the trunk of his 2010 Chevrolet Camaro contrary to his statements that Morris was never in his vehicle.

https://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/380a-20141212-arrest-10-sw-arrest-return-sealed.pdf


ETA: I may have to eat crow on this one. Reading it over again, it does appear it is saying she was in the trunk upon the return to the area not as he was leaving earlier.

 

[CellarDoor]

From a newbie standpoint....man, I get worn out reading the circling and circling and circling. I suppose I'm in a good place to venture out and become involved in other cases out there. I'm a local so it's hard take a break when it's all so close to home. No harm intended here...I just can't read this everyday without screaming a little.

I totally agree. Every time I check in on Christina's thread I just think "ughhhh, not this again!"

The theory that he accidentally hit her with his car and covered it up to hide the fact he was drinking-- IMO not plausible. Watching the footage of them walking toward the garage, they are walking close to each other. I certainly don't buy EA's whole "we didn't talk to each other during the walk" claim.

Another thing- I think she borrowed EA's phone to try and get HF to answer since he was ignoring her calls/texts. The arguments going on about the phone timelines are getting a bit silly.

I get that there are many unanswered questions, but creating theories and hashing & rehashing details is becoming redundant.

 

[SteveS]

It doesn't matter where it is stated in the warrant...it is. I copied it word for word and it clearly said she was in the trunk when he left the garage and went to his home.

Page 9 Paragraph 1 states: Affiant further believes Arochi left the Shops at Legacy area and returned to his residence at xxxx Harvard Lane in Allen, TX. with Christina Morris in the trunk of his 2010 Chevrolet Camaro contrary to his statements that Morris was never in his vehicle.

https://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/380a-20141212-arrest-10-sw-arrest-return-sealed.pdf

Growing legs?! It was brought up on Page 4 the "Affiant believes" she left with him, but the DNA had not been introduced showing her to have been in his trunk so it wasn't mentioned at that time, imo. It doesn't change what LE states they believe in the affidavit which is she left the garage in his trunk.

It does NOT say she left the garage (at 3:58) in his trunk. It says she was in the trunk when he left the "Shops at Legacy area" and went to his home, which is an event that occurred sometime after 4:56 am. Per LE in the affidavit.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

Most newer vehicles, like the 2010 Camaro, have numerous computerized operating systems..

I'm curious if LE was able to determine Christina was never in the front passenger seat via data from the Passenger Presence System. An Electronic Control Unit- ECU - in the seat checks the weight of the passenger and determines if the airbags should be switched on or off.






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[hockeymom4]

I have never and still don't believe the SA angle. Then Paula, the PI spoke and said she thought it was related to drugs, furthering my thoughts. I have read the warrant so many times and every post here, even though I stopped posting. IMO from the warrant only, it seems the SA is based off of SBs story. Well, what if she is not being truthful or exaggerating? Wouldn't Paula have had this information? Why didn't she believe it was SA related?

What jumps out at me is that "anger" incident occurs and CM has no clue even though she is in the apt. She wouldn't or she wouldn't walk with him. SB and PP let her walk with him. Then when they find out she is missing and last seen with him, they don't immediatly call the police?! That is the big one for me. I am sick of the excuse for everything being, crappy friend, crappy boyfriend, self centered, etc. None of us know that is the reason. Maybe there is another reason.

Behind every excuse is the real reason....

 

[SteveS]

Most newer vehicles, like the 2010 Camaro, have numerous computerized operating systems..

I'm curious if LE was able to determine Christina was never in the front passenger seat via data from the Passenger Presence System. An Electronic Control Unit- ECU - in the seat checks the weight of the passenger and determines if the airbags should be switched on or off.

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There was no mention of info from any of the car's computers, or of it being checked, either way. Also....

The affidavit is non-specific as to where they think she was located in the car on leaving the garage. ("CM was in EGA's Camaro at the time it exited the parking garage.") IN the Camaro could mean either in the seat or the trunk, but is vague. Then it gets more specific about when he "left the Shops at Legacy area and returned to his residence" sometime after the ping at 4:56 am, saying they believe she was in the trunk in that time.

But in the affidavit there is a further hint to their thinking as to where she might have been in the car initially, when they make the effort to point out that they observed on Sep 3 that the interior of his car was "extremely clean," had been recently vacuumed, and noting "in particular" the apparent vacuuming of the carpet floorboard in the passenger area. That would imply that they see her being in the passenger seat at first, motivating his attempt to clean away any hint of her presence (perhaps a hint at what they suspect, but not what they can necessarily prove).

I suspect they may have lots more evidence that has gone unmentioned in the affidavit, but ya don't know what ya don't know.

 

[SteveS]

I have never and still don't believe the SA angle. Then Paula, the PI spoke and said she thought it was related to drugs, furthering my thoughts. I have read the warrant so many times and every post here, even though I stopped posting. IMO from the warrant only, it seems the SA is based off of SBs story. Well, what if she is not being truthful or exaggerating? Wouldn't Paula have had this information? Why didn't she believe it was SA related?

What jumps out at me is that "anger" incident occurs and CM has no clue even though she is in the apt. She wouldn't or she wouldn't walk with him. SB and PP let her walk with him. Then when they find out she is missing and last seen with him, they don't immediatly call the police?! That is the big one for me. I am sick of the excuse for everything being, crappy friend, crappy boyfriend, self centered, etc. None of us know that is the reason. Maybe there is another reason.

Behind every excuse is the real reason....

I agree that the SA angle sounds more like a possibility rather than a probability, at least based on the info we have knowledge of. But they may have only offered bare bones for the affidavit to justify an arrest, and have much more on that angle than we know.

 

[Nquiringmindwant2no]

Hmmm...anything is possible. It is odd she would take a pic of two keys in her hand and send it to him. She was sure wanting to make a point when he was ignoring her.

Does anyone know if Christina and or Hunter had a storage unit? When my hubby and I moved in together, I had too much stuff. Imagine that? So I got a storage unit very close to my parents.....
Maybe those keys were to the locks at a storage unit? Just my opinion......happy new year!

 

[Nquiringmindwant2no]

Several years ago my husband found a dead female on our farm. Also it appeared someone was in a hurry or drunk,or maybe just trying to bust our gate open. Bc the gate was busted. The young girl was from the Dfw area. Same age as Christina. Maybe something like this happened.
Maybe he drove her to a farm or land that no one lived on,or he thinks that. Maybe the land owner is not around as it's just for an investment, or they just thought someone had a little crash with their fence and did not go looking around.
Jmo.....from our families experience.....
Btw- we are an hour down 35 border of Oklahoma and Texas!

 

[Nquiringmindwant2no]

Happy new year- one more ?
Whatever happen to the police report about the missing person at the shops of legacy,before away before CM was reported? Did any of the VI's give us info about that? Jmo....

 

[CellarDoor]

Does anyone know if Christina and or Hunter had a storage unit? When my hubby and I moved in together, I had too much stuff. Imagine that? So I got a storage unit very close to my parents.....
Maybe those keys were to the locks at a storage unit? Just my opinion......happy new year!

That's a good question! I don't think we know whether or not they did.

However, if she was sending the key pic to "make a point", as SeriouslySearching suggested (I'm writing this on my phone, otherwise I'd quote their post), wouldn't he have contacted her ASAP and continuously throughout the following days? Seems like if she was taunting him he would have desperately tried to contact her. There are no signs that he did so. Instead, all signs point to EA.

 

[Eileen730]

Most newer vehicles, like the 2010 Camaro, have numerous computerized operating systems..

I'm curious if LE was able to determine Christina was never in the front passenger seat via data from the Passenger Presence System. An Electronic Control Unit- ECU - in the seat checks the weight of the passenger and determines if the airbags should be switched on or off.






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I'm curious where the unknown me dna was?
I do not believe it to be EA

 

[txyorkiemom]

- Bloggers are not MSM, and their standards (and reliability) are going to be much iffier.
- Her unique-to-her info isn't from the interview, which said little, but rather is in an "update" tacked on several days later, which means it came from some other source besides her interview.
- The info she "reported" that turned out to be totally bogus should tell us what we need to know about her reliability.
- Jonni has disavowed her work.

Very sketchy imo. And of course, the WS requirement is to use MSM and LE facts, not take the word of some random blogger looking to grab attention.

Some MSM and Reporters are not proven 100% either
BBM
Random Blogger looking to grab attention- What is your assumption on that statement?
now I see there is an obvious debate on credibility of Uptown Girl(Katie).
Sketchy in your opinion..... yes -based on what?
What a VI poster posted that Jonni said? because other posters have joined in as well to "disavow" the article or platform?
Or what pieces some are choosing to believe as truth?
Jonni has disavowed her work? that is obviously an assumption.
There is nothing wrong with the reliability of UGD(Katie). Perhaps it is time to question the reliability of the ones providing the information rather than the messenger that provided the platform to keep the community informed and engaged.
What is so sketchy about the Uptown Girl interview?
Has anyone spoken or communicated the continued skepticism about her(Katie- UGD) information reported from Sept 17th & Sept 19th directly with her? *I actually know of someone that did..... months ago* IMHO-Seems she(Katie) did and has done way more to help out a heartbroken mother and family than just write down information and provide a platform to get the message out there.
Let me just say based on the above, anyone that is bashing or blaming UGD- is barking up the wrong tree with no teeth. JMO~

I would strongly urge anyone to engage in conversation with her(Katie) to find out the truth and behind the scenes information directly from her one on one meeting(interview),general activities,conversations and information direct from Jonni and rest of the family.

 

[Eileen730]

I believe they took his dna when they took the car to rule out dna found .
They know his dna is in the car.

 

[Eileen730]

If he hit her by accident he would be singing that song by now.